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Pontiac Vibe - MPG-Real World Numbers

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  • johnb62johnb62 Posts: 3
    Have had my new 2009 for about 3 weeks. It is an automatic with the 1.8 liter. I am averaging 32.6 MPG for the first three tanks of regular gas. This is mixed driving.
  • laserbluelaserblue Posts: 313
    I'm looking forward to buy a 2010 Vibe or 2010 Matrix.
    Which one do you recommend?
    I thought Vibe or Matrix were the same vehicle?
    How do you like the power and performance of the 1.8 L. ?
    I will also go for the automatic transmission.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,341
    I own the 2003 and 2009; both 1.8 automatics. The new one is underpowered like the old; however, I'm not willing to get 21 mpg with a Camry engine just to drive a Vibe. If I want that kind of mileage, I'll get an SUV. While Camry Vibe owners may feel better about their ability to punch it when they need to, I feel even better knowing I can get 30mpg in mixed city/hwy driving with my Corolla Vibe. Gas prices won't be going down. You can't have a pocket rocket and a gas sipping engine at the same time. It doesn't work that way. If you can deal with a clutch and don't live in a big city, then the 1.8 liter Corolla Vibe will be plenty powerful. The auto transmission simply struggles a bit when the air conditioner is on and you need to punch it. Make the choice: do you need power, or do you like great gas mileage?
  • johnb62johnb62 Posts: 3
    I believe the Vibe is less expensive. I have no problem with the power or performance of the 1.8 liter. I bought this vehicle because of the great mileage. Its not going to win races but who cares. The vehicle reliability, its sportiness, and MPG's hooked me....not to mention the fantastic rebates. I'm planning on keeping this vehicle for quite a while.
  • I have the 2.4L/5Auto "Camry Vibe"... I drive mostly my 25 mile backroads commute with some light city thrown in for good measure.

    If a tank includes 120 miles or so of 70mph Hwy I get 29 MPG
    If a tank is all my commute/light city driving I get 27 MPG
    If I put my foot in it and have fun now and again I get 25 MPG

    I haven't had a full HWY tank yet, but I imagine it would be at least 31 MPG
    I haven't had a full city tank yet, so 25 MPG is the worst I've had so far.

    I drove the '09 1.8L and think it is a perfectly adequate motor for most situations. The only 1.8L left in my area was a stripped down base, so I got the 2.4L with the package I wanted. I like the extra grunt, and sometimes carry my family of 5, so the extra power is useful. If I'm careful, I can usually squeeze 28-29 out of a tank with my normal driving and that beats the 19 MPG I was getting in my old SUV.
  • laserbluelaserblue Posts: 313
    Hi Abramsgunner.

    Since you drove and experienced both the 1.8 L and the 2.4 L engines, is there a very big difference between both engines?
    I don't know which one to take.
    Yes, I like to have some power (my smallest engine was a 3.4 L.) in a Chevrolet Equinox but I'd like to save money on gas to.
    I don't pull nothing, no trailers, no campers ect... I do mostly city driving (personal errands) and I work at home, our kids are all moved out.
    My wife and I take 1 vacation trip per year and have to cross the Rockies (back and forth).
    Is the 1.8 L powerful enough?
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,341
    while I'm not doubting your numbers, those are a bit high compared to everyone else. I have to believe that you are doing zero miles in city driving to accomplish that. Those who do city driving are getting between 18-23 mpg. If I could rack up the numbers you've listed, I'd have gone with the Camry Vibe in a heartbeat. When I do hard city driving with some highway mixed in, I'm getting 27 or 28 mpg. If I take it easy, I get 30 in the city with the 1.8 liter engine. I wouldn't have dreams of grandure if you are doing all city driving and decide on the 2.4 liter Camry engine. Just food for thought.
  • I have been reviewing a number of sites regarding the Vibe and have found a problem that I cannot find an answer for. Here it is.....

    Q: Why is there a 5 mpg difference in both city and hwy from 07 to 08 with no
    noted changes to drivetrain or body? Is anyone experiencing this variance?

    Wanting to buy and have been shopping a fair amount. Anxious to hear of any experiences.
  • KCRam@EdmundsKCRam@Edmunds Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,496
    2008 was the year the EPA numbers were intentionally reduced to make them appear more realistic.

    Edmunds.com - 2008 EPA Mileage Numbers

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host

    KCRam - Pickups/Wagons/Vans+Minivans Moderator

  • Just inherited a 2004 AWD and am realizing the city gas mileage is about 20 mpg - what gives? New air filter, gentle on the peddle, cleaned the MAF. Could it be plugs? I should get 50% more, which is a heck of a difference .. I don't see a gas leak anywhere, ha ha.
  • Without knowing your cars miles, I can only relate what has happen with my 03 FWD with 124K miles. Mileage was slowly dropping from low 30's to high 20's and then I got the check eng light at 95K. It coded as clogged cat converters. Change them (there are 2) and the both O2 sensors and mileage recovered. So if you mileage is over 100K, you may be looking at either clogging cats or lazy (tech's explanation) O2 sensors. My web research says that O2 sensors are good for 80-100K, then they get dirty and sluggish in their response to changes in the O2 levels in the exhaust, which effects how quickly the fuel air ratio controlled by the engine management computer. As for plugs, I have change spark plugs at 65K and 120K. No effect on mileage.
  • Thanks Chuckles! (lol) .. My car has lower mileage (55,000), but it is mostly short-run city driving. .. These suggestions sound plausible, because I have had the "check light" a few times and never went in to find out what it was telling me.
    So I have two O2 sensors and two Catl convertor's ... I wonder if they are "cleanable"? Anyway, thanks for the tips.
  • lubeexpertlubeexpert Posts: 16
    edited January 2011
    Hello,
    My name is David, I reside in Ohio. Just found this Forum today, 1/8/'11
    I own a '03 Vibe, 1.8L Auto. I believe I can help you with your Vibes' poor MPG. Please understand that I am not trying to advertise, but in order to help, I must name the needed products.
    I purchased my Vibe used in '06 w/30,000 miles, no warranty. It has been (& still is) the best used vehicle I've ever had. It gets 42MPG on Hwy., 30-32 in Cty. & Country. But to achive this, the 3rd day after I bought it, I did a complete Engine Flush, Oil & Oil Filter change & a new Air Filter. The following week, had Tranny flushed & AMSOIL ATF installed. I also run Fuel Additive regularly.
    Products used:
    AMSOIL Engine & Transmission Flush
    Supertech Oil Filter (For Engine Flushing ONLY)
    AMSOIL Ea Oil Filter
    AMSOIL 0W-30 (SSO) Motor Oil
    Wix Air Filter
    AMSOIL Multi-Vehicle ATF
    AMSOIL PI (Performance Improver) Gasoline Fuel Additive
    If you will do a complete Engine Flush (using a Supertech Oil Filter from Walmart for the 15 minute flushing process) & then install all of the above AMSOIL products, Wix Air Filter (AMSOIL does not make AF for Vibe) & run the PI, your MPG should come up to near mine. But to go all the way, you'll also need to have a Transmission shop do a complete Tranny Flush & install the AMSOIL ATF as well.
    Also, the PI fuel additive will also clean-up your 2 sensors as well as the Cat. Converter.
    I hope you see this & that you will let me know the results.
    David/LubeExpert
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,341
    edited January 2011
    ...and do recognize that with the reformulated gas during the winter, the colder temperatures, and the longer period it takes an engine to get to optimum temperature for efficient operation, your gas mileage should be down 2 MPGs. The '03 is an oil burner as well. I was puting in 2+ quarts in between 5,000 mile oil changes on my 2003 AWD automatic; within specs, but still an oil burner. That ultimately was making my cat converter work overtime.
  • lubeexpertlubeexpert Posts: 16
    edited January 2011
    Having read your message, I suggest you read my answer to ve2cy (#75 on page 4) using the listed products & following the same procedure. I can almost gaurantee your little Vibe will not use any more oil. Because I run the listed products in my '03 Vibe, I change my Oil & Filter only once a year. Even then, at the end of each year, the oil still looks like new, as if it came out of the bottle.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,341
    he, he....too late; I've already retired the car. At 2 quarts loss per oil change, I can tell you that your solution would have no impact on the fact that oil is seeping around the rings. Many, many Corolla owners have experienced the same thing over the past 2 decades.
  • Sorry to hear that. I was hoping you could get it in A1 shape so it could be as totally reliable & high performance as mine. (I have solved excessive oil consumption in the past with other vehicles using that procedure).
  • ve2cyve2cy Posts: 3
    Hello David ... yes, I saw it ... thanks for your info - by the way, my car just hit 90K kilometers, which is 56K miles, and the maintenance symbol has just come on ... since I don't have a dealership close, I'm not sure yet what to do.

    Anyway, how much would all of the above cost (rough approximation). I only put about 5K miles a year, since it is our second car, so there might be a trade off. On the other hand, just wasting less gas would make me feel a bit greener, lol.

    Cheers!
  • Thank you for your reply/inquiry. I figured the cost two ways, at retail price & at Dealer/Preferred Customer price. I also looked up the product numbers for you.
    For all of the products (AMSOIL, Wix & cheap supertech filter for flushing), the Total @ Suggested Retail Price = $191.60
    Total @ Dealer/PC Price = $146.70 As you can see, it really pays to become a Preferred Customer (PC) (hopefully through me). The $20.00 it costs for a PC account for a full year would be returned 2-1/2 times in a case such as yours.
    As for the cost of having the Transmission flushed, I can't really say. It depends on the average prices in your area, who you go to, etc. Mine cost $170.00 & I supplied the AMSOIL ATF! BTY; A new Tranny Filter is also required. Since AMSOIL does not carry that filter, it had to be special ordered by the garage. Bottom line is, to do it all, you're looking at $300.00 - $400.00 Yea, expensive, but I am reading & hearing that by the end of this year, gas will be $5.00/Gallon!! Probably well worth the investment to get your little Vibe in Tip-Top condition!
  • lubeexpertlubeexpert Posts: 16
    edited January 2011
    PS: Your Vibe takes a #Ea15K09 AMSOIL Oil Filter & a #46834 Wix Air Filter.
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