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Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid

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  • packer3packer3 Posts: 277
    Very impressive I was getting between 32 and 37 mpg on straight highway driving
    on my old 2004 V6 200 hp Malibu, anyone who is looking for a great used car with great highway mileage get your hands on the V6 200 hp Malibu you will not be disapointed whats so ever. Just dont get it for city driving it averaged 15 to 16 mpg.

    My car had the trip computer take one for test ride on a highyway and set the computer within 10 miles you will be in the 30's I also use to check the gas mileage manually and it was the same
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,719
    "Very impressive I was getting between 32 and 37 mpg on straight highway driving on my old 2004 V6 200 hp Malibu, anyone who is looking for a great used car with great highway mileage get your hands on the V6 200 hp Malibu you will not be disapointed whats so ever. Just dont get it for city driving it averaged 15 to 16 mpg. "

    I was being tongue-in-cheek; anyone considering a vehicle should think about what kind of miles they will use. If 80-90% of the miles are in the city, then a hybrid may be the right choice. If most of your miles are on the highway, other vehicles may be the best choice.

    Most of my miles are in the city, so my Ford Escape Hybrid was a good choice for me.
  • mickeyrommickeyrom Posts: 936
    Hybrids get better highway mileage than non-hybrids, but the Malibu and Aura are nothing special on the highway.I probably do as well with my 2006.5 Optima.The Prius and the Civic wybrids get over 40 Hwy,so well worth the price if one is buying a new car. :)
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,719
    "Hybrids get better highway mileage than non-hybrids, but the Malibu and Aura are nothing special on the highway.I probably do as well with my 2006.5 Optima.The Prius and the Civic wybrids get over 40 Hwy,so well worth the price if one is buying a new car."

    It depends upon whether or not the Prius is a large enough car. The Prius was too small for my purposes.

    If you just need transportation, a Honda Fit or Toyota Yaris can produce high 30's MPG, and cost many thousands less than a Civic hybrid or a Prius.
  • aspesisteveaspesisteve Posts: 833
    anyone still think GM is deserving of it's "green" marketing?

    Someone was talking about how GM is targeting the segment where people consume more fuel i.e. larger SUV's. How their contribution will have more impact than that of the Pruis.

    Any sales to report for GM hybrids?

    I did see someone post how they ordered a Tahoe Hybrid at MSRP. :surprise: They were commenting on how they didn't have to pay any dealer mark up for a dinasour (non hybrid) that is easily purchased for 10k under MSRP.

    I think GM will spend alot more on promoting their commitment to being green then they will on the technology itself. And the sales, or lack of, of their hybrids is proof enough. It's a desperate ploy for a company on it's knees imo.

    There's a waiting list for the Prius once again. Who's waiting to buy a GM hybrid?
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,270
    I would be interested to see figures on how sales of the Tahoe Hybrid are going now that they have the 2-stage hybrid. This hybrid seems to provide an impressive decrease in fuel consumption.

    Presently the Malibu Hybrid is a 'mild' hybrid, which is another way of saying what aspesisteve did, that it is an excuse for GM to promote their commitment to being green without actually having to provide the technology. However, if GM adapted the 2-stage to the Malibu, I think they might have a mainstream car that could actually make a real difference.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv, 2001 Jaguar XK cnv, 1985 MB 380SE (the best of the lot)

  • aspesisteveaspesisteve Posts: 833
    General Motors put their better more sophisticated 2 mode hybrid system that is being strapped on the Tahoe into the Malibu?

    It would be interesting to see what they could get in milege here.
  • mike_mpgmike_mpg Posts: 1
    The problem now is the premium on a Prius. The payback before took about 4 years compared to a Toyota Corolla. With A $2000 premium it takes over 8 years. A comment about all hybrid systems. They only provide benefit for frequent stop-and-go driving. If you're an LA freeway driver, then this is the car for you. If you are driving long distances without a break, then a diesel like the Jetta is the car for you. The prius can get high 40s on the highway too, but because of good aero drag, narrow tires and a very small engine (1.5L) running Atkinson cycle. I used to think the mild hybrids offered by GM were pointless too, but they also shut off on coast and at intersections, making them lower emissions cars in that use. The 2.4L engine also runs Atkinson cycle, which improves economy a bit, but the car is much bigger and heavier than a Prius. There may be no premiums on the Malibu Hybrid and since GM is hurting right now, you may be able to score an incentive from GM as well as the IRS incentive. The IRS incentive for Prius may have already been used up. Hmmmmm. I personally love the styling of the Malibu, but that doesn't save any gas.
  • aspesisteveaspesisteve Posts: 833
    it's not just about payback, sometimes people just want to have a smaller foot print on the world - that's why some choose to put solar panels on their roof even if it takes 12 years to break even.

    if you get pleasure out of giving to charity, then think of the planet as a great cause.
    the Prius is a huge success for Toyota. It definitely took some vision and strategy to get it to market and make people want them. Now they are waiting in line for them.

    GM isn't offering discounts on the hybrid Tahoe (that I know of) - as for the hybrid Malibu, I don't think anyone cares because the bonus is so minute.
  • rjsplacerjsplace Posts: 1
    All the engineering an GM comes up with a mild Hybrid that gets you a sticker on the car that says Hybrid but little else.Lets hope the VOLT actually gets produced but it wont be early 2010 I bet. I have a 2006 Grand Prix 3800 engine one of GMs finest engines good for 200,000 miles and I get 30 miles to the gallon Highway.But of course GM is discontinuing it. So if you want reliabilty and good mileage buy any GM product with a 3800 while still available.
  • aspesisteveaspesisteve Posts: 833
    if GM gets the Volt to market it will be a small feather in their cap.
    the cost and complexity just isn't going to allow them to put one in every neighborhood.

    It would be good PR, but little more imo
  • pawntanpawntan Posts: 1
    Right now the malibu hybrid only turn off the engine when we hit the brake, and the gear is in 'D' (drive). I would love for the engine to turn off also when the gear is in park and neutral. Is there a way where we can reprogram the computer to turn off the engine when in park and neutral ? I wonder why GM does not design it that way. It would seem logical to turn off the engine when the car is not moving no matter what.
    After all it is easy enough to reprogram the computer to do that.
  • larsblarsb Posts: 8,204
    From Green Car Congress:

    "August sales of the Malibu with GHS reached 388 units in the month, for 2.5% of all Malibu sales.

    So with almost 16K Malibus sold in August, and August hybrids were 2.5 % of total sales, I guess you can estimate that they have sold about 400 Malibu hybrids per month this year.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I gotta tell ya, I think the EPA estimates on the Malibu Hybrid stink! 32hwy and 24city? Common, that's barely better then the non-hybrid Malibu, plus, it has less power!! That's terrible! It should AT LEAST get 30mpg CITY!

    Question to GM. Why would I pay thousands more for a Malibu Hybrid when the non hybrid get's almost the SAME mpg and has a bit more power??
  • you shouldn't pay a penny more imo

    you're getting less power and something new from GM which can be scary

    The Malibu Hybrid isn't much more than a feeble attempt to say "we're green too!"
  • Isn't the next generation of Malibu Hybrid (2010) going to be a 2nd generation, full-hybrid system???
  • scottlscottl Posts: 109
    I drove past a Chevy dealer today and stopped in, because they had a line of Malibu Hybrids and I was curious what the mileage sticker said. To my surprise, every Malibu Hybrid (they had '08s and '09s) had the standard Maroney sticker removed, and it was replaced by a reformatted one the dealer had cooked up, that EXCLUDED the gas mileage information. Very odd, I thought. I noticed that the '09 had uglier wheels, and the sticker price was TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS higher than the '08.

    I went over to the other part of the lot where the regular Malibus were, and I noticed the '09 4 cylinder models were listed as 22 City and 33 Highway if they had the six speed automatic. After I got home an looked up the Malibu MPG ratings I realized what was happening. The dealer had removed the normal stickers from the hybrids, because they were embarrassed that the NON-hybrid '09 model got better highway mileage than the '08 hybrid, and only 2 mpg worse in the city. How are they going to get the hybrid price premium if that is the case?

    I think this is a microcosm of GM's problems. They don't have a true hybrid. Their lots are stuffed with prior year units of almost all models, so they want to dump those, which is killing their '09 sales. And in the midst of all this, they have jacked their sticker prices on the '09's. They can put whatever sticker price they want on their vehicles, the problem is that they have to compete with Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Nissan, Ford, Chrysler, Subaru, VW and Kia, GM used to set the market, and they act like they still do. I have news for you, Mr. Wagoner, you are now a minor player in the auto market, and you have to compete or die. I don't want to see GM go under. I have owned eight GM vehicles, and I think they sometimes do things right. But I have also owned Ford, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru and Toyota, and I won't buy crap, and I won't buy a vehicle from a crooked dealer. Trying to obfuscate reality to push last year's junk off the lot isn't straight
    dealing.

    The Malibu hybrid is an embarrassment that only exists so that GM can say it has a 'hybrid'. GM needs to dump this immediately, and focus on selling the 4 cylinder 6-speed models to people who want MPG over power. The Malibu is a good car, don't stain its reputation just so that you can say you sell 'hybrids'.

    BTW, this dealer also sells Honda, and the dealer is obviously favoring Honda over Chevy. They have cut way back on their Chevy units, and most are now white pickups to sell to the trades. I didn't see a single Impala, only one Corvette, and only one of those white elephants known as the Traverse. It is clear the dealer is pushing Hondas. If I were Chevy, I'd yank the franchise and give it to a dealer that cares, and doesn't remove the FEDERALLY MANDATED sticker to try to hide the shortcomings.
  • PFFlyer@EdmundsPFFlyer@Edmunds Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,807
    Does Waggoner's choice of a Malibu hybrid to make the trek to DC have any significant impact on sales of the vehicle down the road?

    PFFlyer@Edmunds

    Moderator - Hatchbacks & Hybrid Vehicles

  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,681
    It can't hurt sales. It is proof the car will run from Detroit to DC. :shades:

    Will it make it on one tank of gas would be my question???
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