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Honda CR-V AC Compressor Problems

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  • I also have an 08 CR-V, 44k miles. My A/C is making a ton of high pitched squeal that started last week. Typically, it makes noise under acceleration or braking and lasts for 2-10 seconds. I have an appointment in a couple days, so we'll see what they say. $186 just to look at it. That makes me mad that I even have to deal with this.

    Already I had to bring the CR-V into the body shop for small rust spots that began to appear on the liftgate. This was covered by the paint warranty. I'm hoping for something similar here, but I'm not too optimistic. For all the Hondas I've owned, especially those that went 150k+, there's ZERO excuse for a major system to go after only 44k. What's happened to the Honda quality that I remember? This is like the Ford of yester-year that required a new transmission after 50k. It happened to my family, so keep the flames down.

    Anyway, we'll see what happens soon enough.
  • wasfanwasfan Posts: 15
    What normally happens when when the AC fails (Compressor) in other cars? Does that produce the metal shavings shower of the Honda compressor?

    In other words, whether due to age or whatever, what is a "normal" failure about, if one can use that term? If the compressor seizes, does that contaminate the rest of the system like the CRV compressor does?

    Is there any reason to trust, as I've asked above, that an updated compressor is going to be much better? And isn't the fact that they are finally coming out with one, finally indicative that they admit they have a problem? Someone just tried to tell me it's taken Honda a while to research this problem. What? Like 7 or more years?
  • wasfanwasfan Posts: 15
    I'm still slogging through this site and several have mentioned losing power and a couple in places that could have caused accidents.

    Mine lost power. Fortunately, it was a slow speed in light traffic in a suburban area.

    Yes, they can and do lose power and that IS a safety issue.
  • My 2005 CRV lost power three times just after I bought it. The ignition sensor would flash and the car stopped working suddenly while I was on the road. Once I was on the highway!

    I might have had 15,000 miles at most on it the last time it happened. When I took it into the dealership, of course they couldn't replicate the problem. One mechanic did say that he'd seen that issue once before and asked if I kept my phone in the glove box or any of the storage areas in the dash. Yes, I kept my Blackberry in the glovebox sometimes.

    Once I stopped doing that, I never had that the issue again. I guess the Blackberry was interfering with the wireless key ignition. I thought it was just a key. Turns out, keys have wireless sensors in them which transmit a signal the car. Who knew?
  • wasfanwasfan Posts: 15
    Has anyone else been told that the basic life expectancy of and compressor is 120,000 miles? That is important information and very forthcoming of the Regional Case Manager.

    How do you find the Regional Honda Managers?
  • My Dad bought a 2004 CR-V new and at 24k miles the A/C blew up and was replaced by Honda. They said at the time that the system was "over pressureized" and that cause the compressor to desinigrate. At about 70k miles the same thing happened but this time Honda said that it was an unlucky thing to have happen and my Dad paid $3k to get it fixed with a whole new A/C system. Now at 133k miles the same thing happened again and we put a new compressor in the car and are selling it. The car has been great otherwise but the A/C is a total lemon piece of crap. Honda needs a class action suit slapped on them.
  • txterrytxterry Posts: 3
    I have just been told by Honda Corporation that there is nothing they can do about my 2nd A/C Compressor going out after 188,000 miles on a 2003 Honda CRV EX. We are a Honda Family having purchased 10 hondas in the past and still owning a 1988 Honda Accord with 500,000+ miles on it and still going strong.

    After stating this to the rep, she said there was nothing they could do because it was out of warranty, (36 mths/36,000 miles). I explained to her that I had contacted several Honda Dealers in the area and they were having several hondas come in with this issue.

    The dealer (Sterling-McCall Honda/Spring) is quoting us $4,840.17 for repair! Retired and hot (100+ degrees in Spring, TX for the past 15 days) not much of a solution for me other than burn!!
  • Seems that my problem is probably a faulty expansion valve. This is common on the '08 Japanese CR-Vs, but not on the Alabama ones. Either way, the mechanics were not sure about the issue as the problem didn't manifest itself. I'll bring it in at a later date when the squealing is happening. Sorry about all the other people with far more major issues.... Good luck with those!
  • shima1shima1 Posts: 19
    You're screwed.
  • louloveloulove Posts: 11
    As am I. All I can say for Honda is, Karma, baby, Karma. :(
  • We just had this happen to our 2002 with 85,000 miles on it. we have had it for a year and a half and it stalled the engine, luckily my wife was in the neighborhood, with our one year old too. I called our local Honda specialist here in Omaha, NE and he knew exactly what I was talking about. He called it "Black Death". My wife took it in today and after they checked it out, said it would be about $3,500. He told us we could probably get it done cheaper somewhere else because they only use Honda parts there, but I don't know if I want those Honda parts put on it again. He also told me that he is sick of seeing this problem and it is something that should have been taken care of by Honda when it all began happening.
    I called Honda America and after explaining to them the situation they came back and told me they couldn't help. I told them that I have always owned Honda's and that after reading the hundreds of postings on multiple websites, this seems to be a problem that they should have taken care of. I don't just have $3500 sitting around to spend on an air conditioner, something I have never had problems with in any of my cars. I also told them that most forums I read that 70-80% of the bills were taken care of, some even 100%, and you can't do anything for me. They put me on hold and then asked me to take it to the dealer within 24 business hours and they will open a case for me and call me in a couple days. I will update what happens. A lot to think about over this Labor Day weekend.
  • My 2003 CRV got discounted all the parts but we have to pay labor. Honestly if they won't discount it just move away from them after you file your class action lawsuit against them. Such a horrible company to have this problem ongoing for 8+ years.
  • darb0213, I'd be interested in reading what you learned after Labor Day weekend. I'm a 25 yr. + experienced mechanic and this happened to my wife's CR-V with 110,000 miles on the odometer.
    I simply flushed the system, replaced the compressor and condenser (desiccant came new in condenser) with new aftermarket parts and drove on. I was ticked that I had to do it with that mileage, though, when the vehicle has been treated very well. I also had to replace the a/c fan motor and alternator that both went out about 5,000 miles before the a/c went.
    I may not get any recompense for my troubles since I took matters into my own hands, but I can definitely send a nasty gram. By the way, we have owned several Honda's and also several Toyota's, and I believe Toyota beats Honda hands down.
  • #gman06: After the compressor on my 2008 CRV with 125k miles went bad in July, I had it fixed. Immediately after, I started hearing a thunking noise.

    When I took it back in, they said that my a/c fan motor was bad (same as you reported) and the noise was caused by the A/C overheating and releasing the overflow valve (thus the thunking). It made sense, so I had the fan motor replaced too - although, I think they should have noticed a bad fan motor when replacing the A/C compressor.

    Thunking is gone, but now my CRV is running very loud. Any thoughts why the new fan motor would be loud? I thought maybe I just wasnt' used to hearing a fan, but this is excessive.
  • I originally posted with a dead AC compressor known to our lovely cars here. Honda initially told us they would do nothing. After much prodding they have decided to take their original quote of $2000.00 down to just labor, supplying us with the parts. I'm still not satisfied. The customer service has been atrocious, the call backs that are promised have never happened. No one in this company, except for the local mechanics, have been useful in any way. I still don't see a reason to keep this car once it's fixed. I hope the rest of you that have this problem get at least the same luck I got.. it was about 75% discounted, still unreasonable. Honda doesn't deserve our business and I will never be returning to them.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,141
    it was about 75% discounted, still unreasonable. Honda doesn't deserve our business and I will never be returning to them.


    Better make sure to get that paid for, before letting them know...

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  • Honda did call, but we weren't home and we have called back three times since then and have heard nothing. The dealer confirmed the AC being done and also called Honda but have heard nothing either. They were really nice too, but my brother-in-law made a good point, if it's going to cost $3,500, that's a nice down payment on a car that's not a Honda. Hopefully we hear something tomorrow.
  • gman06gman06 Posts: 11
    edited September 2011
    Sorry about the late reply, but you may want to get that car right back to that shop for them to inspect. If you wait too long and damage results, they will be sure to ask you why you waited so long to report the problem. It may be the fan rubbing the shroud or something such as that or maybe something more serious. It's hard to say without hearing it or knowing what it sounds like.

    You are absolutely correct that the mechanic should have noticed the inoperative a/c fan motor when they tested the a/c system after the repair. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt and say it could have been a fluke and may have went out after it was in their shop, however, as you said it made a "thunking" noise immediately after.

    Just curious, did you take it to a Honda repair facility or did you take it to a mom and pop shop?

    Oh, and that sound you heard was not the high pressure relief on the a/c compressor or the a/c overheating, but more likely the engine overheating-yikes. Did the temperature gauge read high indicating the engine was hot while all this was happening?
  • After Honda agreed to pay for all of the parts and only charge us labor.. estimate $2000.00, estimated payment for us $700.00. We decided to get the car fixed. We went to pick it up today and had a bill for $1400.00 and change. After much yelling and being horribly upset they knocked it down to $1220.00 and told us this is what we agreed to and would do nothing else. We've filed with the pending class action lawsuit against Honda for this AC problem as I hope all of you that have had to pay look into as well. This is shady business at its worst and it's a massive scam. A quick google can find you the site needed, they are legit and verified by multiple Honda owners on multiple other forums. Good luck again.
  • gman06gman06 Posts: 11
    edited September 2011
    Yeah, piggybacking on what your brother-in-law said, you could tell the good folks at Honda that $3500 would make a nice down payment on a Toyota. And make sure there are plenty of other customers around to hear you say it. (he he he haw haw) That should make them stumble, pause, reflect and go the extra mile to help you get some recompense.

    I know this isn't their fault, though. This is a corporate problem and they are unfortunate enough to have to be the front people taking all the heat for it. Trust me--been there, so I can both sympathize and empathize with them.

    One of the largest shames in the whole thing is that if this were an issue with a vehicle manufactured by one of the old 'big three' (GM, Ford, Chrysler) the media would be all over them like moss on a Mississippi tree stump.

    Whoops! I'm baby bottom new to this site, but I just saw blog #1889 already had the 'I will buy a Toyota idea' :surprise:
  • gman: No, I didn't go to the Honda dealership for this repair. We have been going to another shop that is larger than what I'd call a "mom & pop" shop, but it's not the Honda dealership either. I haven't had trouble with them before, but mechanics turn over. So, I will get my oil changed and get the new fan noise investigated ASAP.

    When I had the thunking noise after the a/c compressor was changed, the odd thing is that the temp gauge did not show that the engine was running hot. That's the one thing that doesn't compute. I'll post an update this week.
    Thanks!
  • Just got word today that I need to replace my ac compressor with a total cost of $3500 - not happy given the fact that I just bought this less than 2 years ago and I have 154k mileage.
    Any suggestions were I can have this replaced @ a cheaper price?
  • How about starting a facebook page about this? Hopefully it can stir up some attention....I am with you to be a nuisance to Honda USA
  • There is a class action starting. Join it then bring lots of these printouts to Honda and harass them to cut your bill down. They're a ripoff company.m
  • I live in Ohio and am not sure where you live but I paid $1000 to get my AC fixed. Do you live close to Ohio?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,741
    Some people seem to be upset because a component on their CRV fails after 188,000 miles or 154,000 miles?

    Seriously, do you expect a car to last forever?

    Just curious...that's all.
  • I don't believe people expect their cars to last forever! However, I do believe that if a car is well maintained, it should last longer than 188,00 or 154,000 miles. I agree with your comment regarding components failing on their CRV after 188,000 or 154,000 miles, but not big money components (a/c compressors, catalytic converters, etc.)! We have had 9 hondas in our family because they have been very reliable autos and we have been very diligent regarding maintenance on each one. We have a 1988 honda Accord with over 500,000 miles and yes we have had to replace items (batteries, tires, water pumps, alternator, door motors) but still have original motor and still have original a/c that works!! We take care of our cars and expect them to do the same, that's why we have been happy with Hondas and definitely know what to expect, but our newest one the 2003 has been a big disappointment so we may have to reconsider, and Honda Corporation is definitely not helping!

    Thanks for asking :)
  • We expect a company putting defective products on the market to admit it and fix it. It is that simple.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,741
    " It should last longer than 188,000 or 154,000 miles"

    I guess I have to disagree. Those are a LOT of miles and things are going to fail.

    Kudos to you for your 500,000 mile Accord. You must maintain it very well.

    Maintenance has no effect however in the life of an A/C compressor. There is really no "service" to do. If they need freon is's generally because there is a leak somewhere.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,741
    edited September 2011
    I ubnderstand and I agree with you.

    I don't think, however that a failed A/C compressor on a 8 year old car with over 100,000 miles was because of a "defect".

    Just the effect of years and miles. Nothing lasts forever.

    You're right, it is that simple!
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