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Honda CR-V AC Compressor Problems



  • shima1shima1 Posts: 19
    By now we should all know it's a waste of energy to pay much attention to anything blueiedgod or isellhondas has to say.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    edited July 2010
    Gosh ain't it the truth, talk about blatant blind denial. And how (the one anyway) doesn't see his defending Honda as being every bit as vocal as others complaining is beyond me.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,356
    edited July 2010
    Sorry for trying to calm things down by telling it like it REALLY is.

    I know misery loves company.
  • tapone1tapone1 Posts: 8
    Not expecting much as I have 116K on my 2003 CR-V. Last week they advised me it would be $2900 for a new a/c system. Called American Honda, explained how they took care of us with our 2000 Odyssey (catalytic converter out at 82K when the warranty was 80K; doors kept sticking for almost the entire 8 years we owned it; tranny went at 80K - although Honda extended all Ody tranny warranties to 100K). Nor do I really expect Honda to do anything and should be happy that absent perhaps $300, I spent nothing on this car other than normal wear/tear items and oil changes. It just is disappointing to have to spend $ on this car that is about 50% or more of the value (in fact, the Subaru dealer was only willing to give me $3800 for a trade, so $3K for a repair is even more crazy). In any event, I will report back later. Has anyone had this issue fixed at a private repair shop for less than the dealer quote??
  • I have just spent approx $760 on parts alone for the third repair on my 02. Thankfully a very good friend did all the work but please do not tell me that this is normal for three compressors to fail in less than four years. I have under 165K on the car and this started long before i reached 100k. While others keep saying sell, i am not in any position to buy as i know what i have and will not go new --not in this economy.
    I really like this vehicle and only need it to live for another two years for treks to Vermont as my child is in college there but the AC impacts the defrost. I struggle with the concept of NORM as i have owned many cars -toyotas, hondas, VW and put high mileage on and no other vehicle ever had this issue.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    There are lots of posts under different thread names and on other forums besides this one. And most people are paying around 1500. for the entire system to be replaced. (cuz the metal bits from the compressor self-destructing goes throughout the rest of the system. I have read that one guy had success flushing his original hoses, but even that repair was too new to know if has long lasting affects.

    Compressor and condenser I have seen at 435. and evaporator about 220. The labour is a big chunk too though, but many dealers are overcharging the labour rate by often twice the proper amount.

    Subes have their own host of problems later on down the road, so there is no free ride I'm sorry to say. And Mazda can still be on another planet with their parts pricing. So that leaves Honda, Toyota and Nissan as the other big 3 Asian builds.
    GM is still a trainwreck at times, Chrysler is about done, and Ford has been caught in many less than stellar practices what are ya gonna do.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    Sounds like I touched a nerve ending here. However, this is where majority of the problems with this country start. People have this skewed view of what is right and what is wrong.

    I never said that A/C did not fail, or that it was not a problem. I simply argued that comfort of an air conditioned vehicle is luxury, not safety. And what do I get in response? It is a waste of energy to respond? Good job!!! Maybe it is a waste of energy running ai conditioning and contributing to the global warming? Ever thought of that? That the added heat, as has been pointed out, is ruining the planet.

    No one ever forced anyone to live where they don't want to live. Yes, I hate heat, there is no way I would ever move south, WAAAAYYY too hot. But, yes, I have lived in a major metropolitan area, NYC for many many years. And guess what, drove stick and with out the air conditioner. If one is stuck in traffic, and there is no air flow, there is no reason to ride the bumper of the car infront. Simply leave enough buffer zone and you will be crusing at 5 mph through the thickest of the jams. And guess what, driving stick, you can do a 5 mph crawl without having to clutch, apply brakes, just by simply modulating the throttle.

    People are free to choose where they live and what they do. I did not like the weather in NYC. Even NYC is too hot for me, so I moved to where I am comfortable.

    As to not being able to drive safely without A/C, I say BUNK!!! I ride from April through October, there is no A/C on a bike!!!

    To whoever pointed out that my mother stayed at home, they were right. But, no one is forcing both parents to work these days, either. You just have to make sacrifices. My sister and I grew up in a small apartment, without air conditioning. We had one old black and white TV (in the 1980's and 90's!!!!) and went to public schools. Went to public universities, and paid for our own education with loans and grants.

    No one needs a 4,000 ft² house and a nanny to raise 2 children. Once again, not a

    But this whole conversation has been off topic. The main point is that A/C is a luxury, not necessity. If it is a necessity, i.e. elderly, sick, weak... they are living in a climate they are not meant to live. Example, there areplenty of people south of the US, where it is even hotter than here, and they have no A/C's and, they do have major metropolitan areas (Mexico City is larger than NYC).

    This simple concept of living within your means has been lost on most people, and these are the people who can't differentiate between "needs" and "wants." Good luck going through life like that.
  • beyondoilbeyondoil Posts: 15
    I think you are on the edge of insanity and your opinions about your lifestyle and where you live have nothing to do with a technological problem that happens to exist in certain Honda AC units.

    These could be dangerous. Let's say you are using you defroster on a day when the road is really slippery. You AC could lock up and it could cause your CRV to go into a skid. This is a scenario that could really happen and in this case the AC would be a safety issue. It could happen to you living in your simple refrigerated climate. All you would have to do is turn on your defroster unless you don't use that either. :mad:
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,356

    Please explain to me how an AC unit could lock up and cause a car to go into a skid?

    I have been in the automotive industry all of my life and that just might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!

    But, please explain. Maybe I'm missing something?
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    edited July 2010
    I didn't make that claim, but I will still reply with my take on that scenario and it is far more of an issue than you would attempt to have us believe.
    If the compressor seizes, it will burn and fry the serpentine belt, which powers such incidental things as power steering pumps, water pumps, alternators and other such engine mounted accessories. Now maybe an alternator loss does not create an immediate 'situation', but the loss of power steering sure does. Vehicles with pwr steering, have ratios in the steering box that are geared for feel (when under power assist) not power, so they are extremely tall gearing...meaning that in event of immediate power assist loss, could feel to the unknowing driver, like it was frozen and would not move at all. Surely I don't have to elaborate further describing what could happen in heavy freeway traffic at 70 mph, or going down some mountain road with marginal guard rails if that is when A/C compressor seized?

    I could elaborate with the loss of a water pump also etc, but I think/hope? you will get my/our point this time?
  • I have a 2004 CRV with 88K miles. My air conditioner compressor blew up. It is being repaired at a friend's non-Honda dealership because I'm at least getting a deal on the repair. He already called Honda to see if they can do anything for me considering this seems to be an ongoing problem with CRVs and was told no because I had so many miles on the car. My question is, Do you think I should pursue this further with Honda and will they shut me down because I am having it repaired at another dealership. Being a woman not the least bit interested in cars I don't want to waste my time chasing Honda if I'm going to get nowhere. I welcome any opinions. Thanks
  • lzclzc Posts: 483
    blueiedgod, you are a little quirky. Still, thanks for the many informative and valuable posts.

    Like many others, I too wish major car components lasted well past their warranty. I wish they lasted the life of the car. But they sometimes don't. For most of us, though, Hondas cost less to maintain and are more reliable. I had a Toyota tranny fail at 106k. Now I know that shouldn't have happened, not when it was serviced regularly and driven sensibly. Otherwise, the car was flawless.

    Bottom line, cars have become so much more reliable than a few decades ago that almost any flaw has now become unacceptable. That sounds to me like a perfect setup to be disappointed.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,356
    edited July 2010
    You have no idea what you are talking about.

    I do appreciate the laugh!

    Seriously, you are embarassing yourself.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    edited July 2010
    Prove it. PROVE IT! Name one thing i said that was not entirely accurate and FACT! But don't make BS claims. If you rebut, PROVE IT! ALtho that will be a trick because you won't be able to. I have you dead to rights and that is the best you can come up with? YOU sir are the one who has embarrassed himself. Your best chance to save face here is admit that every single point I made hit nails squarely on heads. Don't forget, people here reading these replies can think and reason for themselves. If you want to retain some self-respect I'd quit before you pull the dirt in over yourself here. You *claim* that you want to be helpful, but no one is buying it here.

    I have been attempting to give you some benefit of doubt. Not any more though bud. Consider this my last reply to you. In fact I think you more closely resemble a troll and your last post just confirmed it.

    Glad you are retired from the business. Salesmen are notorious for not having a clue about what they are selling anyway. But you aren't selling anyone here anything.

    edit- friendly pc of is ok if you want to retract what you said and admit you stepped over the line. There is no shame in admitting you were...dare i say....wrong.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,986
    This discussion is about Honda CR-V AC compressor problems, not each other.

    Thanks for sticking to the topic.
  • belacquabelacqua Posts: 15
    powder puff--As a female, I have found it in my best interest over the years to learn as much as I can about cars because some (not all) in the auto business see women as a target. If you got a deal on the repair, consider yourself lucky. Do not stress yourself out with American Honda. Let your friend keep servicing your car.

    I have an '02 Honda--88K--AC went out July 10. The first dealership said, "You are the second owner and haven't been having your car serviced here. No help from us." Yesterday, I purchased a new Honda Element from a different dealership and left the CR-V there for them look at. I requested that they call American Honda and ask for a goodwill warranty. I don't expect any help, though.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,356
    There is NO WAY a failed AC compressor can throw a car into a skid so it's probably time to move on.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    edited July 2010
    I advise you to go back and reread my post #1604. Right at the beginning I state in clear black and white that i did not make that claim! Perhaps you intended to reply to the original poster who did claim what you are refuting here. I see you do that often on your other threads, so you are no stranger to dishing out grief, yet claiming you were trying to be 'helpful'.

    "Sell" it to someone else, ok?? Or better yet do a full retirement.

    I suggest to you HONDA, to slow down and be more sure where you are slinging your accusations.

    note to HOST - I mean no disrespect to your request to keep it about the A/C compressor on this thread by defending myself here, but I did ask nicely that he not put words in my mouth. And I feel it is important that others DO understand the risks of the loss of a serpentine belt. If you are mechanical yourself, you will know what I said is true in post #1604 and I would like you to quash these idiotic/incorrect posts/accusations by (the one who would have us believe he sold hondas) by feebly attempting to dispute my good and absolutely correct advice.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    edited July 2010
    I think you are on the edge of insanity and your opinions about your lifestyle and where you live have nothing to do with a technological problem that happens to exist in certain Honda AC units.

    These could be dangerous. Let's say you are using you defroster on a day when the road is really slippery. You AC could lock up and it could cause your CRV to go into a skid. This is a scenario that could really happen and in this case the AC would be a safety issue. It could happen to you living in your simple refrigerated climate. All you would have to do is turn on your defroster unless you don't use that either

    a) I drive stick. Whatever happens to engine, I have full control over the connection between the engine and transmission. Whether the engine decides to rev out of control, or cuts out and siezes. I have full control of the clutch, the connection between the engine and transmission.

    b) I have actually re-programmed the de-fogger to have manual over ride over the compressor engagement. Simply because A/C is not always needed. Winter air is usually dried by the formation of snow crystals.

    c) Defroster has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the windshield. Defroster is thin wires that heat up when current is aplied. Most cars have them on the back window, but some, like subaru, have them at the base of the front windshield to keep the wipers from freezing.

    d) Applying brakes on a slick surface will cause the vehicle to go into a major skid more so than a siezed a/c compressor.

    e) Automatic transmission does not have a direct connection between the engine and transmission. Torque converter is just another form of viscous coupling. Which is what allows you to step on the brakes and stop the vehicle, while the engine is running. Shutting off engine at speed will just let the vehicle coast with some resistance. But, no where near the direct resitance that a manually operated clutch allows. Hence, one can't bump start a dead car with automatic. There is too much loss in the torque converter to turn the engine while the car is rolling.

    f)If you are caught in a humid location without the functioning A/C to dehumidify the windshield, turn on the heat. Hot airt will clear up the windshield just as well as A/C. Ever wonder why people with forced air heat have dry skin if they don't have a humidifier?

    I am not asking you, or anyone else to be an automotive expert, but common sense and 6th grade physics, as well as 4th grade earth science concepts apply to pretty much everything we encounter in every day life.

    Yes, Honda has a problem with compressors blowing up, but it is not a safety concern. It is simply a comfort concern, and as far as I know, there is no government agency to guarantee comfort.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Perhaps you intended to reply to the original poster who did claim what you are refuting here.

    I think that is correct. IMHO, Isell was simply asking that we all move on and didn't intend to imply you were responsible for the original statement. In any case, it IS time for all to tone it down and move on. :)

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
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