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Chevrolet Malibu vs. Toyota Camry vs. Honda Accord

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  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Try out a Malibu also, the seats are very comfortable and the lumbar is perfect for me anyway. I drove 5 hours straight on Sunday and I felt great on arrival!

    Nice change from my wife's van.
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Good Morning!

    You make an excellent point! ---- I will put the Malibu on my short list. ---- I think the Chevrolet Malibu now has a 6 speed automatic transmission on both the 4 & 6 cylinder engines. If this is correct, I would like to drive both vehicles. If the mileage is very similiar, I would pick the 6 cylinder, because the American manufacturer has never made a four cylinder engine that I liked! ------ My family once had a Ford, (fix or repair daily), Tempo that was complete garbage. Ford replaced the engine once under an extended warranty, and the second engine was on its way out when they traded it for a GM vehicle. (Yes, they did all the oil and filter changes at the dealer!)

    Best regards. ------------- Dwayne :shades: ;) :)
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,704
    I think with the new 6spd transmission, it will run much smoother. The 4spd literally suffocates the engine of its true power. It is like night and day difference between the GM 4spd 4cyl engine and the Accord 5spd 4cyl engine. The Accord is much more refined, you can get by more in the Accord 4cyl. I think if GM tuned the engine right with the 6spd, than you got a better fit. The 4spd 4cyl is so jumpy, and it changes gears when you least expect it. I am like, "uh, what are you doing?". It has decent power, but all in the upper range, and with limited gears, it wants to rev. That extra gear makes a difference. Because I have driven both.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,712
    >because the American manufacturer has never made a four cylinder engine that I liked!

    There people go again, stereotyping current cars based on past experiences or talk. Go drive a Malibu. See what you think NOW.

    Isn't the Honda a 5-speed automatic? You'd want the 6-speed from Malibu!

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  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    I drove both a 4 and a 6 cyl Malibu with the 6-speed. The 4 is just fine but the 6 made me smile and I like to smile. I went with the 6. More gas sure but I don't drive much so even when gas prices go back up (and I think they will in a year or two when this mess passes) it will be fine.

    Nice thing with the Malibu is you can buy a top of the line LTZ with a I-4 which is not possible with most mid-size cars.
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Good Morning!
    YES, ---- I want it all! -------------- Why? ---- Because I am purchasing this vehicle with "my hard earned money," and that fact places me in the driver's seat. --------- Prior to purchasing the 2007 Camry, I wanted to purchase a 2007 Impala with the LT2 trim package. There was not one 2007 Impala in my area of New Jersey (IN STOCK) with the LT2 package! So, I purchased a foreign vehicle! ----- The American dealer / manufacturer had an opportunity to make a sale, but they could not deliver! This is not my problem, it is their problem! If the American manufacturer wants to sell their product, let them make a product that meet the needs of the American buyer! If a foreign dealer can stock vehicles with a variety of trim packages, so can the American dealer. If a foreign manufacturer can make and design a smooth running four cylinder engine, so can an American manufacturer. If they can't then let them lose the sale! YES, ---- it is that simple!
    Best regards! ------------ Dwayne :shades: ;) :)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,712
    >There was not one 2007 Impala in my area of New Jersey (IN STOCK) with the LT2 package! So, I purchased a foreign vehicle!

    What you do is place an order and the factory builds one to exactly your liking and color. That's what I've done for 5 out of the last 7 cars I bought. Two were available at the dealer in the format I wanted.

    >If a foreign dealer can stock vehicles with a variety of trim packages, so can the American dealer.

    I've read many people not being able to find certain combinations of options on foreign vehicles. Myself when shopping in the past I noticed that RED was almost unavailabe on Honda dealer lots. Also I want to be able to add options in the pattern I wish without having to buy a certain car with options AB and if I want C I also have to buy the vehicle with option ABCD because that's the way the company builds them. I have been able to do that with the cars I've bought.

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  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    I have one neighbor who drives a Honda and one up the street who has a Camry I think but anyway a Toyota and both claim that they can't really order a car to their liking. They make a request and the dealer turns it in to reginal and they give them what is available close to what they want. They both claim that different regions push different packages and you MUST take the car with that package no matter what. The Toyota guy wanted a Prius but at the time he would have had to take a certain package to get the options he wanted and it included a Nav. system which he didn't want to spend that kind of money. At least I can go to any GM dealer and order just what I want, color I want and have it in about 6 weeks or sooner.
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,704
    Well, like I stated, I have driven both Honda and GM cars. Both recent, the Honda 4cyl is more smooth, refined, has more torque. That is why most are finding themselves to have to get the 6cyl, because they 4cyl cannot provide what people like that the 6cyl can do better. Honda 4cyl has a better grasp with this. You are right though, I have never driven the 6cyl Malibu, I am sure it is pretty nice.I really like the new Malibu.

    To be honest I hear this kind of opinion about GM from others I talk to, so its not coincidence. I really just can't past the fact the GM car depreciates so fast, literally prices on them drop, plummet so fast compared to other makes. That is really disappointing.
  • texasestexases Posts: 5,424
    "At least I can go to any GM dealer and order just what I want, color I want and have it in about 6 weeks or sooner."

    I've done the same thing. I wonder why Detroit doesn't advertise this? You'd think they'd be desparate for any edge these days.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,712
    >I really just can't past the fact the GM car depreciates so fast

    Explaining reality of money on that for those who aren't going to trade every two years is like explaining how the economic financial mess got started; no one wants to really place the facts where they lie.

    Take the price of the actual car, after discounts, as you drive it off the lot. Divide your likely sale value after a few years by that. For the GM, I can get a good discount, and I can leave the dealer without being ripped off by mandatory (in their head) doc fees, prep fees, polish fees, waterproof fees, etc. At the two local other brand dealers, there are ADMs on the car with stuff added on for hundreds (besides the packs added on by the area wholesale license holder), and anything they can add on. Take your value of the car and divide by the out-the-door price. I don't see a difference that would make me buy something I didn't like quite as much and pay the extra fees added on. In this area they want you to thank them for letting you look around the showroom or dealer lot at one dealership.

    I buy and hold a car for 10 years typically.

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  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    I think most people who buy cars just go to the dealers and either get one off the lot, or from a dealer trade, they can't wait the 6 weeks it takes to order so these people are rare.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    I buy and hold a car for 10 years typically.

    I do too. But you can get more for a 10 year old Accord, than you can for a 10 year old Malibu. And probably sell it in half the time. I also want to do a long test drive of the car I want to buy. If it's not on the lot, that's not going to happen until the car comes in. Then, if you happen to not like the car, when it comes in and you test drive it, your back to square one.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    :P :shades: They may not have the color or exact options you want on a car but I'm sure they got one close enought to drive. Last I knew colors don't make them drive differently nor do most of the options on a car. I'm betting you just don't want a Malibu and will use any excuse to get the other car.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Just because a car on the lot is the same model, it's still not "that" car, and could feel totally different behind the wheel. I once bought a brown car, instead of a red car, because it felt much better on the test drive. I think how the car feels, is more important than the color, so I would never order a car for a certain color. One EX can drive a lot better than the EX next to it.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    I have seen some used Malibus for sale and the resale is holding up pretty well on them vs. say an Impala. I think people know the new Malibu is a good car now and their value is holding up better than most GM cars. CTS's hold value well also, I know that because I tried to buy a used one with no luck.

    Anyway, I drive my cars for 7-9 years so I am not too worried about resale.
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Hi imidazl97:
    I would never order any vehicle. ------ REASON: ---- If I do not like the quality of the vehicle when it arrives at the dealership I now have a "BIG PROBLEM"! ------- I want to walk their "holding lot," pick the vehicle, have a set of dealer plates put on the vehicle, and take it out for a drive! ----- I am always professional in my dealings with the staff at dealerships, but I purchase vehicles on my terms not on the dealer's terms! -------- REASON: ---- I have the money, and they want to sell me a vehicle! That puts me in the driver's seat! ------ Now that dealerships are going out of business, what happens to a "deposit on a new car order" if the dealer is no longer in business? How does the customer get either the deposit or the new vehicle?

    Best regards! ------------ Dwayne :shades: ;) :)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,712
    >ip I now have a "BIG PROBLEM"!

    You drive it after it comes in. If you don't like it you don't take delivery. :blush: End of deal!
    That's the same thing as when you drive a car that's on the dealer lot.

    >but I purchase vehicles on my terms not on the dealer's terms! :mad:

    When you accept only the color or the package combinations left on the picked over :sick: dealer lot, you are buying a car no the DEALER'S terms, not your terms. Ordering a car puts you in the driver's seat. ;)

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  • berriberri Posts: 4,004
    Ordering a car gets it how you want it and the dealer avoids flooring costs. However, the incentives may change by the time it is delivered and if you don't like it you may still be out the deposit you put down.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Ordering a car puts you in the driver's seat.

    Not today. :( Maybe in a couple months. :cry:
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