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2007 Honda CR-V

steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,615
edited July 11 in Honda
There's a lot of talk about the new CR-V and the spy shots. Here's the place to chat about it.

We're going to move some threads over from the CR-V discussion to help seed this one, so some of the initial posts may wind up out of sequence.

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  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,846
    They are claiming it will be larger, due to being 3 inches wider and about the same length. This one was caught in Europe, and I suspect that the US model will again have those ugly black plastic bumpers instead of painted ones as depicted here.

    I can't imagine why Honda does this for the first couple of years when introducing a new CR-V.

    image
  • lirlir Posts: 81
    Looks like a mini hearse to me.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,846
    "Looks like a mini hearse to me."

    LOL, but the "hearse like" Landau emblems on the back window are actually tape and not part of the vehicle.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,846
    Was it similar to the pix I posted in #15888?

    stevedebi, "Honda CR-V" #15889, 21 Jun 2006 3:44 pm
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Leather right out of the starting gates is a first. In the past, didn't they wait until the 3rd year of the design to come out witn an SE package?

    I guess since the RDX has a turbo engine, they don't have to worry about them overlapping too much.

    -juice
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    The vehicle in that photo is the Euro CR-V. Enlarge it, look closely, and you'll see that it has the wide license plate holder and "nubs" for headlight washers. It also lacks a moonroof (despite being pretty much loaded) and has chrome door handles. It ain't comin' here.

    Otherwise, it's pretty much the same thing we are getting.

    The reason why that pic looks so much better than the white CR-V is mostly optical illusion. The vehicle has a better disguise over the grill, making it look more like the Pilot. And the vehicle is back lit, which puts the nose in shadow.

    If you read what Miamicrv1 is writing, his description is exactly what we've seen before.

    "the bumper had these evenly spaced bulges throughout."

    These can be seen clearly - poking up from under the plastic in the photo below. (Note, they also appear on the panel below the doors.)

    "...the metal portion of the hood coming over the edge and surrounding the very prominent logo."

    Which can be seen under the plastic, as well. This forms the upper half of the infamous "double grill" so many people hate.

    Miami's comments about the roof line and other exterior features also match up with what we've seen before.

    image
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    "Leather right out of the starting gates is a first. In the past, didn't they wait until the 3rd year of the design to come out witn an SE package?"

    Canada originally got an LE trim, which was more or less the same as our SE. They never had to wait for it. With the second generation, they got an EX-L model (EX with leather) which also included painted bumpers, IIRC.

    Here in the US, the CR-V will follow a model pattern similar to the Pilot.

    LX - Base model
    EX - Alloys, sunroof, stereo upgrade, etc.
    EX-L - Adds leather and painted bumpers
    EX-L NAV - Adds Navigation and maybe a few other technology-related features.

    Here are some of the rumored content changes...

    "The 2007 CR-V on the 3rd generation will have the following features which were not available on the 2nd generation: Telescopic Steering Wheel, Bi-Level Digital Readout Instrument Panel, Center Console with: Floor Shifter, Extra Large Storage Compartment and Cupholders, Variable Intermittent Windshield Wipers, Automatic Climate Control System on EX and EX-L and Daytime Running Lights!!! This info comes from a Dealership Pre-Order Fact Sheet!!! Enjoy!!! " - Bluewho
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's a lot of changes.

    Floor shifter means no more walk-through.

    Telescoping wheel is new, and rare in this class.

    NAV is new to this class, RAV4 doesn't have it yet, I'm not sure any economical compact SUV does. Mazda5 is the closest thing I can think of that offers NAV.

    Bi-level instruments - is that like the Civic's?

    Auto climate - uh-oh, HAL strikes again. The Subaru folks hate it. Maybe they'll design it better.

    -juice
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    What about that shelf makes it useless? I have heard it's a little flimsy but haven't had a chance to play with one yet.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,976
    Auto climate - uh-oh, HAL strikes again. The Subaru folks hate it. Maybe they'll design it better.

    juice - the Honda auto systems I've used have been great - truly set and forget.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    A contributor to another forum thought he saw an undisguised CR-V (2007) on the road between Vancouver & Whistler BC.
    Alas, again no pix. It certainly seems like Honda may be doing a ride & drive for journalists (or Honda dealers) in the Vancouver/Whistler area. Folks in those parts, keep your cameras handy!
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    pix disappeared off the original links but someone on the autoweek forum must have grabbed them first, 'cause they're up on that forum now. couple of front shots + one rear...not great quality but you get the idea. vehicle apparently was shot in Vancouver but it had California plates.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Saw the a, b, and c pictures, they look undisguised, too.

    That front it gonna take some getting used to. And I'm being nice. ;)

    The tails actually look good, but the rear window is really raked and gives up space, plus the window is very high so rear visibility might be worse than the old model, even though the spare moved out of the way. Why? :confuse:

    -juice
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Someone at TOV mentioned that it looks like Forrest Gump's army buddy Bubba.

    I like the profile and rear views, but the nose is exactly what I was expecting. And it looks hideous. The nicest thing I can say is that the chrome strip almost takes your attention away from the whale shark's maw underneath it.

    Juice, I'm not so sure the rear window is higher. I think the roof line at the rear is lower, which makes it seem proportionally higher. But in reality it's about the same.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The new CR-V, sponsored by....

    image

    ;)

    -juice
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    ...though I'll wait for better pix to make a final judgement. Think it would look better with a blacked-out 'smiley' part. Also not crazy about the 'protuberance' below the 'smile'....looks like it sticks out more than the 'euro' version we saw earlier. Side & back look ok. The roofline doesn't slope as much as the side window profile would have you believe. As a whole though, it lacks the cohesiveness of Hyundai's new Santa Fe or Mitsubishi's new Outlander, for example.
  • kwhkwh Posts: 67
    when some of the long time knowledgable posters are saying it does not look good and sales will go down. I was going to trade my wife's 2004 CRV for a new one but if it looks as bas as I hear I will look at CX-7, RAv4, Outlander, or a really good deal on a 2006 CRV instead.

    I can't find the pictures on Autoweek. If anybody gets some pictures please post them. With all the new competition now I am surprised Honda did not come up with a nice looking new model.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    Not sure we're allowed to link directly here, but if you go to autoweek and then look under "combustion chamber" and then under "future sheetmetal", you'll find a thread for the 2007 CRV......pics are on the 2nd page.
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,774
    Good pictures! First ones totally uncamoflaged!

    Typically whenever a model changes people complain because it's different. I think it looks fine and will sell very well.
  • kwhkwh Posts: 67
    Thanks for the pictures. The front end looks like it been in a wreck and the car was smashed into three pieces and they are driving it to a body shop to smooth it out. I really cannot imagine who could have come up with such a strange design. High school freshmen could design a better looking front end - well, anybody would be hard pressed to make something that looks worse -and I am a Honda fan - I have purchased 8 new Hondas starting in 1982 and was going to get a 2007 until I saw this. This is just very bizarre to me. Front end looks like the back of the Aztec.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Not true. I was fine with the look of the second generation CR-V. I'm happy with the styling of the current TL and the spy pics we've seen of the MDX. I own (or have owned) copies of the previous model for each of them.

    My reaction has nothing to do with this model being something different. This CR-V turns my stomach. The front facade is an example of bad styling.
  • wheelz4wheelz4 Posts: 569
    ...about 6 different designers worked on this thing. One for the back, one for the sides and 4 different designers worked on the front. And the ones that worked on the front were the ones Subaru fired after coming up with the B9 Tribeca monstrosity. This thing better have some surprise and delight features up it's sleeve, 'cause in the looks department, it can't hold a candle to anything out there (save for the Ssangyong 'creations').
  • miamicrv1miamicrv1 Posts: 66
    That's it!....though I have to say, it looks much better in metallic blue and in person. The pictures looses some of the interplay of the concave and convex surfaces especially in the rear
  • drive62drive62 Posts: 637
    Geesh, you really feel this way? I really don't get that excited one way or the other over a vehicle. "Turns my stomach" seems pretty severe. I'd use that term to describe my feelings about a terrorist or some other atrocity but a car?? Perspective.

    Whatever, it will sell.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Those are the same a, b, and c pics that were on the Autoweek site except bigger and more clear.

    I'm surprised, but the D-pillar actually looks better than I expected. I don't mind it like I thought it would. It doesn't look saggy like some of the sketches did early on. It actually reminds me of the Infiniti FX, and I'm sure Honda doesn't mind that at all.

    The front looks wrecked, literally. It looks like the front broke in half and the two halves are separated by that wide opening.

    Or, perhaps you could say it looks like the hood is not closed all the way, but that's a huge gap.

    The way the front bumper comes up to meet the headlight (sharp, straight) does not match with the way the grille dips down in to the grille (soft, rounded).

    It does create a smiley face, perhaps they're targeting women and thought that demographic would find it "cute". The shape reminds me a bit of the Fast character from the VW GTI.

    -juice
  • sky23213sky23213 Posts: 296
    Will take a looooooong time getting used to... politely said. Long time, maybe until the next redesign.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think a simple face-lift could make it look a whole lot better. Streamline the bumper that'll fix it, very easy.

    A face-lift can do it, I'm sure. The profile and rear view look fine.

    -juice
  • prosource1prosource1 Posts: 234
    I recall the rather heated criticism Hyundai rec'd when it designed their 2nd Generation Elantra wagon with a similar rounded 'C' pillar. It was termed 'awkward'.
    Honda is borrowing heavily from the Pilot for the front end of the new CR-V.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    In a wagon it's a D-pillar, because there is an extra window behind the rear door. Ableit a very small one in this case.

    -juice
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