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Honda Fit v. Nissan Versa

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  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Exactly. But there was a pretty big difference in braking distance with and without ABS, so don't believe dealers when they say (as several told me) that a car like the Versa doesn't really need ABS.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,632
    Yes, CR was pretty clear about the need for ABS on these cars.

    Here's my overall impressions on the CR comparo, which I finally saw today. I put it into the Low-End cars discussion since it involves several different models:

    backy, "Low End Sedans (under $16k)" #3704, 6 Nov 2006 9:17 am
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Interesting that although the Fit & Versa are the same width, the Fit has 51.2/51.0" of hip room front & rear, while the Versa only has 48.8/47.2" front/rear. The Versa does have 4.3" more rear legroom, but it is 12" longer. The Fit's cargo area is much more versatile, as are the rear seats. Reliability I'd say goes to the Fit. It's getting better ratings, plus if you browse the forums, you'll see more issues with the Versa. The Fit is sportier with better steering, but the Versa is quieter and more plush. More standard safety features on the Fit, and it gets better MPG. Plus it's short enough that I can have it in my closed garage and still can drop down the retractable ceiling stairs! I really like the exterior length.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,632
    Yes, there are a lot of plusses for the Fit. But two huge minuses, IMO:

    * It's very hard to find one.
    * Poor ergonomics and adjustability for the driving position--doesn't affect all drivers, but is an issue for some (including me).

    As for safety, the Versa out-does the Fit in the IIHS crash test scores (Good/Good/Good). ABS is becoming easier to find on the Versa also.

    I am wondering if the relatively small hip room measurement on the Versa is due to its rather large (and comfy) armrests. It certainly feels wider than the Fit inside.

    I am hoping the next-gen Fit addresses the driving position issue, and that Honda will send more Fits to the U.S.--or start making them here.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I know what you mean about the inside width...maybe it's an optical illusion because it does seem more spacious in the back of the Versa.

    And I'm only 5'8" so the driving position is too bad with me.
  • versameversame Posts: 2
    I think the Versa beats the Fit. The versa is bigger, nice, and looks better in style. The design is Well though of, it has alot of leg-room. The features on this car is GReat. The convenience package is awsome!!!!....I love My Versa... IT is the Best- well created car that was made out there.The price is reasonable too!!! i got mines for 15,600 which is not bad....

    The only thing i dislike about my Versa is the steering wheel control, the wheeel is very loose, you have to hold on tight onto the wheel. Its hard to see out your back windows..The inside dashboard doesn't look to fancy either... its just Normal....and thats about it... otherwise.. I Love the car... LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT

    As for the FIT... i think the fit is pretty sportish.... but its small, i dont think it has more space. but HONDA are " Supposely better then NISSAN" So i know the most people will go towards the HONDA FIT. Honda FIT has a Nicer interior then the NIssan Versa... The Fit might keep the value of the car, better then a versa.....The versa is worth 16,000 Now, tomorrow its worth 9,000....
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    I especially like the Versa back seat perched high in the middle of the cargo area. It offers an interesting challenge any time something larger than a golf bag needs to be loaded. :)

    Versa must be more popular than the Fit, as the Nissan lots around here are covered in them and Fits are hard to find.
    Honda must think the Fit simply will not sell! :blush:

    Kip
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Other than the additional 2nd row legroom, which I agree is an advantage to the Versa, what else do you like about it over the Fit? You mentioned it being "nice" "better in style" and the convenience package, and I also agree that there are more conveniences on the Versa.

    It was a toss-up for me between the Versa and the Fit, but in the end I bought the Fit because it really drove better. You mentioned the steering, and that was something that really turned me off to the Versa (as compared to the Fit). Plus with the Versa being one foot longer than the Fit, although there is 5" more rear legroom, the cargo space is sacrificed for that extra legroom, and I've taken my Fit on some long trips with our child in the rear in a carseat, and so we really need a lot of cargo space with the 2nd row in use, and the Fit excels in that area. The lack of antilock brakes also prevented me from buying the Versa back in November when I needed to buy a car.

    And after reading the posts in both the Versa and Fit groups, it seems that while there are quite a few people that don't like the driving position of the Fit, I find it works for me. But on the Versa Forum, there seem to be a lot of categories for mechanical problems with the car, and you don't see nearly as many posts for mechanical problems with the Fit. The Fit seems to get a lot better ratings from different sources on quality. And while there have been complaints on both Forums concerning MPG, I get consistently in the mid 30s mpg in a mix of suburb/hwy driving, which is fine to me and is right in the EPA estimated range.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    I especially like the Versa back seat perched high in the middle of the cargo area. It offers an interesting challenge any time something larger than a golf bag needs to be loaded.

    Versa must be more popular than the Fit, as the Nissan lots around here are covered in them and Fits are hard to find.
    Honda must think the Fit simply will not sell!


    Aha, aha, Kip! :P
  • fitluverfitluver Posts: 198
    I especially like the Versa back seat perched high in the middle of the cargo area. It offers an interesting challenge any time something larger than a golf bag needs to be loaded.

    Versa must be more popular than the Fit, as the Nissan lots around here are covered in them and Fits are hard to find.
    Honda must think the Fit simply will not sell!

    Kip

    Funny thing is that Honda is being criticized for having low Fit sales. They only made, what, 40K or so for all of NA? (or was it the US?)
  • clonedcloned Posts: 4
    "And after reading the posts in both the Versa and Fit groups, it seems that while there are quite a few people that don't like the driving position of the Fit, I find it works for me. But on the Versa Forum, there seem to be a lot of categories for mechanical problems with the car, and you don't see nearly as many posts for mechanical problems with the Fit."

    I've been following the Versa Forum since June '06 and they have really changed. Now, it seems that many of them are about customizing, etc., and fewer are about serious problems. Granted, serious are only serious when they happen to me.

    I tried to look at the Fit and Yaris and the dealers never had any. The Toyota dealer suggested that the Yaris was not preferable to a Matrix. Saw a couple of Fits on the road and wasn't taken by the appearance (personal thing probably). Wasn't impressed by a Scion. I think I was looking for something with a few more perks and size. Ended up getting a Versa in February '07. After about 2000 miles am getting a strong 29 MPG using 10% ethanol gas. Not great but not bad.

    Am impressed by the quietness of everything. Did have a small Mazda pickup and we still have a Honda Oddessy (our second) and the V is quieter than either. I also wanted more room in the garage and now have it.

    All depends on what we are looking for....
  • travlertravler Posts: 138
    The Fit has a long list of customers waiting for their new vehicle to arrive. It's so popular that they can't keep them on the lot. Try calling a dealer and asking them when you can get one.
    They know it's selling. They're trying to keep up with the demand. Eventually they will, but unlike other manufacturers, they build them right the first time, so sometimes it takes a while to get them on the road. Others push them off the assembly line just to fill the lots, and end up with tons of recalls.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,632
    It has nothing to do with build quality, but plant capacity. Honda decided to start shipping Fits to North America without increasing plant capacity, resulting in few units being shipped here--and shortages on dealer lots. Once Honda expands production capacity for the Fit, e.g. with its new plant in the U.S., it will be easier to get a Fit.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Earlier poster have said the Fit has been successfully running around Japan and Europe for a few years as a JAZZ.

    I haven't seen a Fit advertisement for quite a while. Chances are good there may be a major model change for 2008. Therefore we probably won't see many Fits here until that takes place.
    With fuel prices headed the way they seem to be, I believe the "Economy" car's time have arrived.

    Nissan will likely figure a way to deal with the Versa cargo area, and Toyota will likely do some mods with the Scion and Yaris lines. I would expect Kia, Hyundai, Suzuki, and even some US., manufacturers to jump on this bandwagon.

    Should be some interesting innovations coming along fairly soon, at reasonable prices. :)

    Kip

    Kip
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    The current iteration of the Fit was first released in Japan in June 2001. It's about to become a six-year-old design.

    Honda's gag order on the next-gen Fit has been very effectively enforced and adhered to, as only fragments of information have become available in Japan, and I am not sure which one of those is reliable.

    However, the current stream of leaked info seems to suggest that the next-gen Fit will be released in Japan this fall, between September and November. Some are saying that the release will be either immediately before or during the Tokyo Motor Show, which for this year will be held between October 27 and November 11.

    It is not very clear when the switchover will occur for the North American Fit. It has been rumored that the new Indiana manufacturing facility that is slated to go online in the fall of 2008 will build the Fit, but last month Honda announced that it would be the Civic that will be built there, at least initially. They said nothing about the Fit being part of the manufacturing plan at HMIN.
  • nthomasnthomas Posts: 40
    I have actually seen quite a few advertisements for the Fit recently, both on television and in magazines. I guess whether you see them or not probably depends on whether you're watching or reading things that target the demographic the Fit is mostly marketed towards.

    The Fit has been around for several years in Japan and Europe. Being that it just came out here in the US, though, I don't think it's very likely that there will be a big redesign for 2008. I'd think they'd wait a little longer. Then again, you never know what Honda will decide to do.

    When I was car shopping, I looked at several other small cars, but they either didn't have the features or the cargo space I wanted (Versa included), so I went with the Fit. As it is, there's not many of them around. I know a lot of people are frustrated with the availability problems. I love mine, and hopefully there will be more of them to go around before too long.
  • yenchingyenching Posts: 10
    I recently did a test drive on a Honda Fit Sport AT and a Nissan Versa AT (CVT). I liked the Nissan Versa for the horsepower and handling, but the cost was simple too much.

    Nissan Dealer: The Nissan Versa AT (CVT) - without Anti-Lock brakes is $19,000 and no other accessories.

    Honda Dealer: The Honda Fit Sport AT - with 17" RIMS and Wheel Locks - $17900

    Note: These are prices are without taxes and other Dealer charges.
  • jiaminjiamin Posts: 556
    I checked carsdirect.com, and the Versa SL with ABS ans CVT is $16,425 (MSRP) and CarsDirect price is $15942 in 95014 area.

    I tried selecting almost all options and it comes out to $19270(MSRP)/$18381(CarsDirect).

    Have bought a few cars and every time there was at least one dealer who was willing to match CarsDirect price...
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    19 grand for a Versa is high, even if it's an SL with CVT, if it is a plain SL. I priced one WITH an ABS sometime ago, and it was something like 16.5. Is this Nissan dealer putting a premium on the Versa? A lot of Nissan dealers are actually starting to sell their Versas below MSRP these days (whereas the Fit is locked in at MSRP and above). I'd go to a different Nissan dealer if I were you if this particular one does not move from this sky-high 19,000 price. That's too high.
  • yenchingyenching Posts: 10
    I also did the Internet Building of the Nissan Versa AT (SL hatchback) and the $19k was way off the deep end, since the BASE price on the hatchback SL was starting around $14k. When I asked him about the "way" above MSRP price, he said that this car maintains and pays for itself because there is no Timing Belt replacement and saves gas.

    I guess I can understand the Timing Belt because this car uses a chain, but you still need to replace the Chain Belt, right? Anyhoo I'll be shopping for a Fit. Hopefully in June or July.
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