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New Audi Q7 Owners Give us Your Report

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  • newq7newq7 Posts: 21
    Hi Folks:

    I'm in the process of negotiating to buy a pair of Audi Q7 Premium's loaded to the gills. I've talked to several dealers. One just offered to sell the cars for $500 over "invoice" each.

    When it came time to begin writing up the contracts, 2 new charges miraculously appeared. One is called “NY Upstate Dealer Advertising Group” for $300, and the other is called “Preparation and Inspection” at $195.

    I’ve searched here and Consumer Reports and can not find either of these charges listed. The dealer is insisting that these are both charges that the dealership pays and that they are billed by the manufacturer. He even gave me a copy of another Q7’s invoice that does in fact show both charges. That invoice carries a notice on the bottom that reads “Prices illustrated above are subject to change prior to drafting and final shipment”.

    I had arrived at a price by simply adding up the wholesale price of the car and each option selected and then adding the “Destination Charge”. I thought that by simply adding another $500 I’d have the price of the car. These "extra charges" adds another $495 to the deal.

    Re these charges for real – or is it a scam?

    Does the manufacturer rebate this to the dealers to allow them more profit – beyond invoice – in a manner like holdback?

    By the way, I’m told that Audi does not do “holdback”. Edmund’s site shows none. There appear to be no promotions available for Q7’s yet. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?

    Thanks!
  • rbirns1rbirns1 Posts: 211
    A pair of Q7's? Lucky you!

    Try to get a 3.6 and a 4.2 so you can give us all real world comparison reports.
  • carpiscarpis Posts: 12
    My Q7 was delivered June 15th in Tucson Arizona.I have a Panoramic Sunroof. If I leave the car parked for any length of time 30 minutes or more the air conditioning becomes ineffectual. Is it a sunroof problem or an A/c problem.
    I do not recommend anyone getting a sunroof if they live in temperatures of 100 or more. At the present time I am getting the roof tinted. I will let you know if that works.
  • rbirns1rbirns1 Posts: 211
    Doesn't the sunroof have a sliding shade like most others?
  • carpiscarpis Posts: 12
    No it does not have a sliding shade,like all other cars.
    It has a sliding net that does not block the heat coming
    through. It is a thin mesh netting that looks nice but is ineffective to the sun & heat.
  • rbirns1rbirns1 Posts: 211
    Wow. I'm kinda glad the Q7 that I have on order does not have the sunroof. I rarely open it anyway in my cars, and I almost always have the shade closed.
  • audifan3audifan3 Posts: 25
    I can vounch that the mesh screen on the Q7 does in fact keep the interior cool -- even through the heatwave that has hit the northeast. 110 degrees here the last couple of days and the A/C combined with the mesh across does keep all occupants cools.

    :) :shades:
  • garvergarver Posts: 1
    I've had my 4.2 Q7 since the first week of June - love the ride, makes my A6 feel "cheap". Great acceleration for such a heavy truck, typical Audi interior (which is always a step above the rest) - averaging 14-19 mpg (similar to my old Jeep Grand Cherokee); had an aftermarket overhead DVD player installed for about $1,400 (looks factory). Tried to get a phone cradle for the center console but ran about $270 (more than my phone!). My only complaint is the navigation was less than accurate on certain destinations - would not opt for this again. Didn't get the sunroof (which allowed the DVD installation)
  • awaggonawaggon Posts: 2
    Does anyone have the V6 or 3.0 model? I am debating on the 4.2 or 3.0. I have heard the 4.2 doesn't do that well. One of the reports said it average 11 miles a gallon.
  • rbirns1rbirns1 Posts: 211
    V6 models are due at the dealers later this month, so nobody has one yet (I have one on order).

    It's not a 3.0, it's a 3.6 liter V6. At 285 hp, it's one of the most powerful 6-cylinder engines anywhere. Acceleration should be about 1 second slower than V8 (Audi says 0-60 in 8.2 seconds), which is still among the leaders in its class. Still a heavy vehicle, so mileage won't be great either way. Expect the V6 to get about 2 mpg more than the V8.
  • carpiscarpis Posts: 12
    follow up to my sunroof problem. The dealership tinted the sunroof which was very nice of them. One week later I drove up to Idaho at 1200 journey the car performed wonderfully.
    Unfortunately once in Idaho the sunroof would not close and the sun roof shade would not open. The next day the car was completely dead. I am waiting for road side assistance as we speak. more to follow...
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,129
    If you need some "what to do in Boise" advice while you are stuck, give a holler! That's where I am.

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  • carpiscarpis Posts: 12
    August 14th Q7 is still in Boise cannot find a solution to this problem.Audi guy flew in Friday morning to fix it he called Germany for help,left Friday night sunroof still open.
    Got a call Saturday afternoon asking me if I was going to pick the car up today and they were sorry it was not ready.
    My patience is runny out.For Rbins1 the sun/heat in Arizona is slighty different to the NE our heatwave starts in May and finishes end September.
  • carpiscarpis Posts: 12
    It is now day 9 car is still in Boise. Duane from Audi called and told me car is ready. I asked if the problem had been fixed he just said the car is ready.
    The service manager told me the roof started to work again but they do not know why,the problem was never found and no solution has been found. They are still delivering back the car to me. So it may happen again any time soon.
    more later.
    Advice to anyone thinking of buying a Q7... WAIT
  • carpiscarpis Posts: 12
    Audi finally came through and delivered the car to me at their cost of about $600 plus paying for my rental car for 10 days.The moral of this story is if you shout load enough and long enough they finally give in.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,129
    That's a relief. Still irritating to have to deal with car problems on your vacation to beautiful Idaho. :shades:

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  • carpiscarpis Posts: 12
    Isn't that the truth. 10 days without your brand new car, it's tuff!!
  • blckislandguyblckislandguy Posts: 1,150
    Sure the Q7 is the "in" thing right now. For those of you who are looking at a V6 AND don't need a third row of seats to lug around, look again at the V6 Porsche Cayenne. Afterall, it shares the same basic platform with their accessories by now all sorted out, good Porsche customer service (what happened to Carpis--after many days neither Audi nor dealer could fix his problem; dealer then said that they could not deliver it 120 miles back to him without payment for a driver-apparently Carpis doesn't have transportation-wouldn't happen at a Porsche store), and this well sorted out car is available right now at a discount!

    Buying a hot new car at sticker or above (e.g., the M Series MB SUV about 10 years ago, the LR3 Land Rover three years ago, the XC90 Volvo more recently, etc.) is a fool's game. And you know what happens to fools: they are quickly parted from their money.
  • carpiscarpis Posts: 12
    Too true my wife has a Porche Cayenne much nicer drive than than the Q7.
  • anniepanniep Posts: 1
    Yeah but the Cayenne is hideous. R&T agrees as well as many others. But the main gauge is the public and I have yet to meet someone at any level of car expertise who loves the Cayenne's looks. Nonetheless, being a Porsche C4S owner, I appreciate their effort. The Porsche image and performance is its only saving grace. I'm sure that if the car had any brand image and name other than Porsche, that it wouldn't sell nearly as well. Either way, the only Cayenne that's decent is the turbo and that would be comparing apples and oranges to the 4.2 Q7 because they're different cars. Which brings up the point. The person who is buying a Q7 is most likely also wanting the bigger size without the image of a Suburban or pimped Hummer. In this case, the Cayenne is better compared to the X5 based on size and payload. The Q7, on the othe hand, at over 5000lbs is better compared to the Range Rovers. At a 0-60 of 7.0 and 7.1, the Q7 isn't going to win any speed awards, so it isn't the same kind of car as the Cayenne. By the way, the Range Rover Sport is also 7.1 sec. The Q7 fully loaded will be close to the same price as a loaded Range Rover Sport. So, trying to pitch the Cayenne to a Q7 shopper may be like pitching a Carerra to an Audi A8 prospect. And, if you want performance, then why not get a performance car and blow the Cayenne and Q7 and Rovers away? My late model 745li series will smoke them and it carries 5 people very comfortably with a trunk that carries all the soccer mom stuff plus more. And my wife's Allroad twin turbo will smoke my 7 with her big intercooler, plus it will carry 12 bags of cement, 5 people, and 3 bikes on the roof rack. But they're all different cars. My point is that the if you want and love a Cayenne, then that's great. It's a fine SUV. But the Q7 is not a comparable car because it's a different kind of SUV. It's Audi's move towards squeezing performance from a 5000+ pound road hog with all the ample interior space and sweetness. It's not a snug fitting Cayenne. I'm a small Samoan rugby player at 6'1" and 250lbs. and even with the seat all the way back and down, my left leg hits the door handle in an X5 and a Cayenne. I'm not as genetically lucky as most. I guess that I'll have to wait for that Q7 hybrid. 0-60mph in less than 6sec with great MPG.
  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    This is the second or third time I have heard someone mention a Q& Hybrid. I called audi near me and they know nothing. Anyone hear different about a hybrid?
  • rjlaerorjlaero Posts: 659
    No hybrid anytime soon. A diesel will be here in 2008.
  • blckislandguyblckislandguy Posts: 1,150
    All good points. HOWEVER, I have yet to see anyone in a SUV's third row and rarely see anyone other than the driver (on her cell phone)in most SUV/SATs. Simply getting into the third row in a Q7 is a trip way back to the way back.

    Maybe we should rethink the need for a third seat. Those that really are going to be hauling around 6' tall high school hockey players with their bags of gear perhaps ought to buy a spiffed up Denali XL and forget about their image while they anticipate tuition bills.
  • racer_65racer_65 Posts: 43
    Cayenne Hideous? May be you need a pair of glasses. Cayenne has a creative, purposeful look suitable for a SUV. The Q7, on the other hand, looks like a million other designs coming out of Japan.
  • fatcat71fatcat71 Posts: 75
    I cant speak for anyone else here but I can tell you that we use the 3rd row about once every 2 weeks or so when the relatives come for dinner, etc.. it is great for small kids, who actually like being back there. I currently have the XC90 with the 3rd row and the Q7 looks much bigger back there but I'm not 100% sure of that. Anyway, you will probably get better resale with the 3rd row and bench back seat ( 3 seats) as opposed to the 2/2/2 configuration
  • The 3rd row is the main reason I would buy the Q7.
  • blckislandguyblckislandguy Posts: 1,150
    OK. I'll live and learn. I just never see them used except on the Block Island Ferry in July on rental house "change day" when the new people from Connecticut come over and the old renters go back.

    I do think that adding 12" to a Cayenne platform is not going to make for a whole lot of room for a third row and it will be a long hike under a low roof to get back there.
  • Hi:

    I would go with the 4.2. We have 4000 miles on ours. We have obtained very good mpg: 15/22 MPG (city/highway). The highway mileage number is based on some long trips we have made. Some short highway trips we have seen even better MPG.

    Keep in mind, we don't typically do heavy accelaration and the numbers I report reflect that. MPG is low if you like to race the engine (very fun). Do you think the reviewers who reported 11 MPG were light on the accelaration pedal?

    I doubt the V6 will have significantly better MPG numbers than the 4.2 under similar driving conditions.
  • xy46xy46 Posts: 26
    Received my 4.2 Premium Q7 approximately 3 weeks ago on 10/7. Really wanted to do European delivery because left on 10/12 for 10 day vacation in Germany, but Audi doesn't offer this. Imagine my surprise to then read that Audi began European delivery on 10/13. Would have been nice to drive my Q7 in Europe before it shipped, but I guess timing was off.

    I now have 1,000 miles on Q7 and I have to say I love it. Great vehicle. Also, have an '06 A6 which is also an awesome car, but have to say I love the Q7 more. Despite it's size and weight, it actually feels sportier than the A6. We got it complete with almost every option - adaptive air suspension, adaptive cruise, side assist, towing hitch, 20" wheels, etc.

    The ride is very smooth, which was initially a concern with the larger wheels and why we decided to add the adaptive air suspension. We've set it to the automatic setting, which has worked well. Very smooth, yet handles excellently on corners and when driving more aggressively. Yesterday, pushed it on some curves/corners and straight aways, and it was as if I was almost driving my BMW Z3 M-Type.

    The adaptive cruise also worked quite well. Driven into Chicago twice, and once I set it, it followed traffic, speeding up and slowing down appropriately, even bringing the Q7 to a complete stop on a number of occasions when traffic came to a standstill. It does take a little bit getting used to, as several times I found myself mashing on the brakes fearing that it wasn't going to slow down, but when I trusted it to do the job, it controlled the vehicle as expected. It helped to increase the distance setting and change the cruise setting to the "comfort" level vs. "dynamic". I believe "dynamic" is more for the German "autobahn" style of driving instead of the US interstate. Definitely, this option is very pricey, and not for everyone. I'm a tech-addict, so I just couldn't pass it up, but if you do a lot of driving - highway or city, it definitely makes the drive a little more relaxing and easier.

    Thus far, mileage has been about as claimed. 12 in the city, a little less on the highway, at about 18. I'm hoping I'll see that improve a bit more once the vehicle's broken in more.

    Navigation is also excellent - I really enjoy the interface and thus far, has been very accurate - similar to the A6.

    I have a Treo 700p with Sprint and was very disappointed to find that it doesn't work with the Bluetooth.

    I have found a few small quirky things, but nothing big - see my posting under the "Audi Q7: Problems and Solutions" discussion.

    Overall - I love this car. I was a little hesitant at first to make the purchase, as I love to drive aggressively and enjoy more of a sportier vehicle, but I have not been disappointed. This gives me all the room I need to haul people and things, the comfort to travel long distances, yet I feel like I haven't had to give up on the sport aspect. I would recommend it without hesitation.

    :)
  • bauksbauks Posts: 8
    I love my Q7. I bought it in August from Legend Autorama in Massapequa NY because they were the only ones that had it in stock at the time. They owe me a master key after 4 months. They have promised it to me at least a dozen times. They don't return my calls. They don't respond to Audi USA - they are impossible.

    My father-in-law has just purchased one too - but how can I keep being a cheerleader for a company that can't get me a key?

    Comments: I have the 4.2 premium. Love the acceleration. I have no sunroof problem. I do have a huge issue with the fact that my kids snapped off the plastic nubs to the sunshades within a week and you have to replace the entire shade for $450 a piece. Not so great engineering there folks.

    The navigation is very good - I live in an area where there are new developments so some areas are uncharted. Once I looked to be flying over a bridge.

    Looks wise - I get asked about my car all the time. My parents have the Cayenne - I told them they need to upgrade to the Audi.

    It feels solid and handles so well. You have to watch your speed - you tend to fly.

    I will say the gas mileage is pretty weak - maybe 14 mpg.

    Love the bluetooth function of the phone and the Sirius.

    Again STAY AWAY FROM LEGEND AUTORAMA - they have caused me so much anguish I had to let people know.
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