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Nissan Altima Engine Failures

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  • I had the same problem with my 02.. Nissan will not side with you.. Take my advice, You are S O L as they say it.. Get the engine or get another car, But whatever you do... Do not buy a Nissan ever again.. This is a very common problem that they ignore..
  • keilsekeilse Posts: 16
    Do you have a 3.5? That is EXACTLY what happened to me and it took me a year of badgering the [non-permissible content removed] out of Nissan North America Corporate in Tennessee to get any resolve. I think I still have the email and phone number of the person you need to talk to for help. Her name is Lanae. Let me know if you want it. If I were you I would get yourself a frigging lawyer (lemon law) and go at it that way. I HAVE A BRAND NEW ENGINE & CATS THAT WAS REPLACED BY NISSAN AND HAVE DRIVEN IT LESS THAN 8000 miles and I already have the SAME FRIGGIN' problem. I had 118,000 miles when my 1st engine literally seized up because the car had NO OIL in it because Nissan forgot to put it back in after replacing my catalytic converters for the 6th time. And they are the ones that did my oil change not 3 days prior to the engine failing. I was successful in getting Nissan to pay me $14,000 back which was $5000 more than the amount I spent on rental cars and fixing the same probs with the car OVER and OVER. I have another solution for you to avoid this in the future, (that is if you decide to get a new engine)...and it works, and is way cheaper than replacing the cats every other week. I did it in lieu of paying 2500 for all new cats only to have the same prob again. Change the exhaust headers. This will place your catalytic conv in a different position which means that it won't come apart internally like now. Tthe new headers will provide different style pipes that don't have a 3 inch pipe with a 90 degree bend that goes to less than 2 inches in width before it ever hits the resonator and muffler. I took off all my cats and hollowed out the pipes (my Nissan guy recommnded this to me on the QT because he knew the cars were LEMONS)replacing the whole pipe with the bend, including the resonator, with one that is 3 inches wide from end to end. My 3.5 gets better gas mileage than ever now, and burns NO OIL. I still need to replace my headers and put one cat back on, then I am SELLING THE P.O.S. You will also need to get the $5 or $10 02 sensor gizmo that prevents your service engine light coming on. Mine is on right now, but only because there are no cats, and because I need to buy the 02 gizmo. Good luck to you - let me know if you need that Nissan contact info so you can hound the [non-permissible content removed] out of them and maybe at least get an engine or some cash or both.
    Good luck to you, Sara
  • keilsekeilse Posts: 16
    I took your advice about the replacing the headers and it's 10 times the car! Thanks!
  • yeah, I traded in my nissan for a car that ran. In terms of book value I lost a lot of money. In terms of a car that actually works I came out way ahead. I now tell everyone I know that the average Nissan Employee has the integrity of a child molester and they are better with anything else. I relate my personal story with Nissan to everyone I know, especially when the conversation turns to cars. I am sure that over the course of my lifetime Nissan would have been much better off not screwing me out of 12k, but since this won't show up on any of their metrics they don't care. I do...and it's one of my goals in life to tell as many people as possible my story. Every time I talk someone out of purchasing a Nissan, I feel a personal victory.
  • Wish I could delete that message. On occasion my anger at Nissan gets the better of me. Unfortunately this site doesn't let you delete your own posts..which is too bad.
  • fedfuzzfedfuzz Posts: 3
    Keilse, I would certainly like to get that information. I've already spoken to someone at Nissan USA and they decided that it was not their fault, therefore, they will not be providing any assistance. I've already asked to get that in writing just in case I decide to pursue this legally.
  • keilsekeilse Posts: 16
    fedfuzz...I have two names for you to contact...(Unfortunately, I am having problems finding the email addresses, but the names and proper addresses for mailing will also work.....)
    Fred Standish - Director of Corporate Communications
    Nissan North America, Inc
    P.O. Box 685003
    Franklin, TN 37067-5003
    800-647-7261

    Lanae Burton
    Executive Specialist - (Works for Fred Standish)

    I emailed Fred Standish directly and Lanae was the person that responded and was assigned my case from start to finish. I think my Dad may still have the email and phone numbers for these two, so let me check and I will shoot them to you. If you mail a letter to Fred, he will respond by having Ms. Burton contact you directly. The initial response will be a flat denial of all accountability, but the more tenacious and organized you are with documenting the facts of your case, diplomatically, you know non-threatening, other than the threat of legal action...the more they will want you gone so bad they will pay you. I got the first $8,000 on my own with Lanae's help, and then I got a Lemon Law Lawyer that got me the other $5,000. Nissan didn't even care that they had already paid me AND replaced my engine and cats on their dime...because they'd have had to pay me well over $80,000 if they had decided to go to court and lost...so another $5,000 was nothing. It took a year, and my Nissan sat, with the new engine and cats, parked the whole time, and I bought a Toyota instead. I will work on the email addresses and phone numbers for you but do keep me posted.
    Good luck,
    Sara
  • casper17casper17 Posts: 1
    I'm having the same issue with my 2002 Altima. This the 2nd time I replaced this catalytic Convertor :sick: . I replaced it in 2006 and now they telling me today, I need to replace it again along with a new engine. The total cost of this will be $3700. I'm so unsure if its worth fixing or just investing in a new car. I was looking over the blogs and people are having the same issues and after they fix it, more problems are occuring. I currently have 149k miles on my car and counting. What do you think?
  • keilsekeilse Posts: 16
    Honestly Casper....I say dump the car. If you don't dump it, then change the exhaust hjeaders and the cats and sell it. It's only a matter of time before your engine is ruined. Either that, or contact the people I gave to fedfuzz in my last post. The problem's only going to continue - on that you can be certain...and my friend this I can GUARANTEE...having been through it SIX times myself. It's got too many miles to pursue the Lemon Law - at least realistically - and battling with Nissan like fedfuzz might be is always an option...but it takes a lot of time and who knows if that will pan out? Make the car run - legally - if you don't live in CA you will have a much easier time of this - and sell it. I am changing my exhaust headers and this puts my cats in a different place...(I have to replace the cats after the headers-I hollowed out all my pipes and removed the cats because they showed signs of the same prob AGAIN) . The car runs a little loud, and it smells like crap currently, but tell you what, it gets better mileage than ever, and it's got more speed....as soon as the headers and cats are replaced she's going to be a screamer....and then I am selling it. I have 125,000 miles on it, and even at that mileage she's still blue booked at just over $6,000. So I will make her healthy and legal and DUMP her, take the cash, fix my toyota tranny, and move the hell on. Good luck to you...I will help you if I can! Sara
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Please do not post phone numbers here that cannot be verified by a search engine. Thanks.
  • jd10013jd10013 Posts: 779
    tough call casper. 3700 isn't going to buy you much car if you go that route. if you do the repairs, at a minimum you'll have a car with a new motor. a 3700 car will probably either be a POS along the lines of a focus or neon or a decent car with 200k miles on it and the motor.
  • keilsekeilse Posts: 16
    Sorry about that...I forgot. Got any suggestions as to how I can get fedfuzz the phone number and email I promised him without breaking the rules?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Either of you could make your email address public in your profile so that you could contact each other that way. A "public" email address in a profile is only available to logged in members so the spambots cannot get to it. And of course you wouldn't need to leave it public beyond getting in touch with each other if you didn't want to do so.

    Hope this helps!
  • fedfuzzfedfuzz Posts: 3
    I have the name & numbers that you provided. Thank you so much. I don't know how, but I did get them. I will keep you posted.
  • tplotnicktplotnick Posts: 1
    I just read the post and I was hoping the phone numbers could be shared with me as well. I am having the exact same issue with Nissan. I entered a case with my regional office in New York. So, far I am being that I am SOL. My 2002 Nissan Altima Engine died @ 101K miles. The catalitic converter recall was repaired back in 2004. I was told the engine failure was as a result of catalitic converter recall but yet Nissan is unwilling to help on the repairs of $5800. They did not offer me a cent. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    As I mentioned, you can make your email address public (temporarily if you wish) in your profile and perhaps someone can email them to you.
  • rondholrondhol Posts: 32
    Is there any reason you unplugged the ECU before re-assembly the engine during head gasket job?
    My car is pinging at 1300, 1500, and 1700 rpm under light load at around 40mph after the head gasket. Only happened when the engine is hot (10 minutes drive) and worse when the weather is hot with AC on. Using 93 octane gas reduces the pinging intensity. Re-manufactured MAF from Autozone doesn't help either. :confuse: MIL p0171 (runs too lean) never comeback since the MAF was cleaned. http://www.flickr.com/photos/39740540@N05/3655762299/ The spark plugs after 12k miles with oil consumption 0.5 quart/1k miles.
  • tylerrosetylerrose Posts: 3
    I have similar problems with my daugther's 2002 altima engine which caught fire. Of course Nissan North America refuse to do anything about so here is what I have done to get justice:

    I filed a formal complaint with Federal Trade Commission at ftc.gov; click on “consumer protection” then click on “file a complaint” the click on FTC Complaint Assistant” then answer all questions. The form will start out with question about identity theft but keep going because you will get to part to file complaint against Nissan North America.

    Now, this website: autosafety.org does provide a place for you to check the box if you desire a class action lawsuit. Go the website the click on “file a complaint” then fill out the questionnaire. You will need your vehicles VIN number.

    I also file a formal complaint to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration nhtsa.dot.gov. This one is important because the more people file complaints the more they will see a need to force Nissan to conduct a recall. Most definitely, make sure you show if the vehicle caught fire or caused a hazardous traffic situation such as stopping suddenly without warning.

    I went one step further and file a complaint against National Highway Traffic Safety Administration because they keep record of all complaints on a particular vehicle and there are currently 196 pages of complaints regarding the 2002 Altima and the engine problems and nothing has been done. I mailed a letter complaint to U. S. Dept. of Transportation because NHTSA under their jurisdiction.

    If we follow through then I am sure something will be done but if we chose to just complaint on websites with each other – well – we obviously can’t help each other.
  • tylerrosetylerrose Posts: 3
    I filed a formal complaint with Federal Trade Commission at ftc.gov; click on “consumer protection” then click on “file a complaint” the click on FTC Complaint Assistant” then answer all questions. The form will start out with question about identity theft but keep going because you will get to part to file complaint against Nissan North America.

    Now, this website: autosafety.org does provide a place for you to check the box if you desire a class action lawsuit. Go the website the click on “file a complaint” then fill out the questionnaire. You will need your vehicles VIN number.

    I also file a formal complaint to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration nhtsa.dot.gov. This one is important because the more people file complaints the more they will see a need to force Nissan to conduct a recall. Most definitely, make sure you show if the vehicle caught fire or caused a hazardous traffic situation such as stopping suddenly without warning.

    I went one step further and file a complaint against National Highway Traffic Safety Administration because they keep record of all complaints on a particular vehicle and there are currently 196 pages of complaints regarding the 2002 Altima and the engine problems and nothing has been done. I mailed a letter complaint to U. S. Dept. of Transportation because NHTSA under their jurisdiction.

    If we follow through then I am sure something will be done but if we chose to just complaint on website with each other – well – we obviously can’t help each other.
  • #1 - Is there any reason you unplugged the ECU before re-assembly the engine during head gasket job?

    Yes, I followed the instructions per the Hayes manual and the alldatadiy site. When doing major work on any modern vehicle, the computer should be unplugged to protect it, due to all the sensor wires that are taken loose and reconnected. There is a possibility of a static electricity charge getting into the computer if it is not disconnected. Disconnecting the computer is for its own protection. If it is not protected, it can cause a problem like you are having, or many other problems.

    #2 - The spark plug seems to look ok. A lean condition or miss as you descibe could be caused by many different things, computer, MAF, injectors, air leak, vacuum leak, throttle body, head gasket leak, ignition timing, or several of the different sensors.
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