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Nissan Versa Real World MPG

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  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    Kimberly the only way to get the correct mileage is to drive the car till it needs to fuel. Not this 2.34 gallons or 5.3 gallons. So far you are getting what everybody else is getting...

    Nothing scientfic about that..

    Tony
    9000 miles and counting
  • In looking for the bottom line on K's-V fuel consumption, I added up all the miles off the site and divided by the gal's and got 24.39 MPG avg. on the Blue Sopwith V.
    What I would really like to know, tho, is what were the circumstances of the trips that got nasty MPG's and also exceptional numbers...like the one trip that recorded a little over 40 mpg.
    Maybe the Sopwith likes the open road with a good strong tail wind!?
    As for your constant scrutiny for your V's mpg's, as long as you top up to the same spot each time and divide the gallons into the re-set miles on the speedo, It doesn't matter how often, or at what interval you do it.
    This way you can check for any unusual road conditions, wind factors, different fuel brands or traffic issues.
    I imagine there is also a very strong 'curiousity factor' driving your MPG system as well.
    So ...keep up with your research, we are all looking for MPG answers we are not getting from the Nissan "question lines'
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    Thanks for posting your MPG kimber. Question for you: It seems the tanks you got great gas mileage (38 and 40) are followed by a tank of poor gas mileage (20 and 22). Did you completely fill the tank during those great gas mileage?

    Longo32: With Versa and Caliber owners reporting less than stellar gas mileage, I wonder if the CVT is not as efficient as everyone thinks?
  • This is the reply I got from an owner who has his Versa SL a/t with 9977 miles, listed on the internet, Feb 22-2007.
    I asked him the question everyone on this forum is asking, "what is your MPG on the Versa?"
    His answer...

    "The best I have ever seen was about 36 when driving on the freeway, but the worst that I had ever had was 12 when I was delivering newspapers in a apartment complex. I usually see around 25 mpg. thanx"

    Good thing for Nissan, the EPA dosn't post a "Delivering newspapers" rating! ;)
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    Audi has a CVT too and I wonder why they are getting ?

    But I keep saying this, people is MPG is your main concern get a Hybrid... The Versa is so much more then a Economy car, and I'm very happy with the car..

    Tony
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    The thing you have to remember is it is Nissan's entry level car and they do market the fuel economy heavily along with the points you make. So it is fair to describe this vehicle as an Economy car. Why else would people complain about the sub par gas mileage if it was not marketed as being fuel efficient? My guess is the prospect of getting 36 mpg on the highway is one the top two reasons people bought this car.
  • I can't find any MPG numbers on an Audi with a CVT powertrain, but in looking at other CVT options out there, the 2007 Toyota Camry 2.4 engine Hybrid with the CVT is putting up some very nice, owner confirmed, 40+ MPG numbers on the highway. Even better is the Prius at 50+ highway MPG
    Someday perhaps, the Versa will go the Hybrid route too, that would be great! The sooner the Better.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    the only MPG #'s that Nissan talks about with the Versa is the 400 miles Per tank on the highway. Which it is possible, but that is it. Entry Level does not mean Fuel Efficient.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    the only MPG #'s that Nissan talks about with the Versa is the 400 miles Per tank on the highway.

    Tony, unfortunately that is not entirely true. I have the newest Versa catalog that I have just received in the mail. And it reads, among others, as I quote from it:

    "Be a high roller. Go up to 420 miles between fill-ups. Stay in the green with up to 36 mpg."

    I think this line was in the old catalog prior to the release of the sedan as well.

    I understand that the Versa is a very nice car, and on that basis, we nearly bought one, even though we knew that MPG was not going to be the greatest (we did not in the end because we could not locate a Versa with ABS). But I have to say that people do have a point when they say that the Versa is expected to be economical in fuel consumption. Take an extreme case, and let's suppose that the Versa were sold with the exactly the same equipment, standard or optional, at the exact same pricing as today, with everything equal, but instead could get only 20 MPG. No one would buy this car. Why not? Because there is an expectation on a car like this to be economical. If the comfort and equipment alone mattered, then people could find any number of other cars that get that kind of mileage or better, albeit paying a little more than with the Versa.

    The Versa is a good car that gets a decent, if not great, mileage. But I would not subscribe to an idea that therefore people should drop the expections of economy from the Versa because economy is a huge part of any car in this segment. I think that the Versa could have done better with MPG, and personally, the mistake that Nissan made was not to bring it to North America with the HR15DE 1.5 L engine that gets at least 10% mileage than MR18DE with little sacrifice in performance.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    Jackson1

    The only reason why you didn't buy a Versa was because you couldn't find one with ABS. So MPG wasn't a issue to not buy one.. So my point again is MPG isn't stopping people from buying one. I haven't read a single post that says, "If I knew that the Versa wouldn't get the kind of mileage that the window sticker says, I wouldn't have bought the car."

    I am getting 330 to 340 miles per tank, which is by far much better then my Contour had gotten. The EPA well be revision how they calculate the MPG it posts on cars very soon, ALL cars MPG (On the window sticker) will go down.
  • The EPA are changing the way they measure mpg figures starting in 2008, and it's long past time.
    The new tests will start with the car at 20°F. The old tests started at 75°F. Why? A cold vehicle uses more energy than a warm one. Cold temperatures are especially hard on batteries so expect hybrid mpg ratings to drop too.
    The new tests will use a real-world maximum highway speed of 80mph instead of 60mph. At that higher speed, more engine rpm's are needed to overcome drag than to actually keep the vehicle moving at speed.
    The new test will includes hard acceleration. The old EPA test used gentle acceleration. This one is also going to affect hybrids because hard acceleration relies on the regular gasoline engine.
    The new test now assumes that air conditioning is used at least 13% of the time. The old test didn't use air conditioning at all! 13% is the mean average for all major cities across all times of year for the US.
    On this they should also add, "your air conditioning use will vary"
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    The only reason why you didn't buy a Versa was because you couldn't find one with ABS. So MPG wasn't a issue to not buy one.. So my point again is MPG isn't stopping people from buying one. I haven't read a single post that says, "If I knew that the Versa wouldn't get the kind of mileage that the window sticker says, I wouldn't have bought the car."

    The MPG WAS a big issue for us when we were looking around at cars in the last round - it was not the only issue, however, and for the Versa, we were willing to let MPG not be the decisive issue, but rather, be one of the factors to be weighed. In our car shopping weighting system, we assigned a "veto" score on any car on which we could not have the ABS equipped. We also assigned a cut-off point for MGP below which no vehicles would be considered. As I said in my earlier post, if the Versa were to get something like 20 MPG, it would not have been on our list at all even if it had come with ABS. We were willing to say that, if the Versa can get the kind of numbers that people were generally reporting, we could probably live with it, assuming that ABS was readily available (which was not the case for us). That did not mean, though, we had no reservations about the Versa MPG.

    Different people weigh the MPG variable differently in their car consideration. However, I personally know more than a few people who have said to me, in person, that they would not consider the Versa at all because of what they have heard and read about its MPG characteristics. You also wrote that you had not seen a single post from anyone who said, "If I knew that the Versa wouldn't get the kind of mileage that the window sticker says, I wouldn't have bought the car." However, if you look at the Versa Real-World MPG thread in this forum, you will find that more than a few posters have said something to the extent that "Had we known that's all the mileage the Versa would get, we would not have bought one." I have also seen the same kind of sentiment expressed over at NICO Forum's Versa thread.

    My ultimate point is that the MPG is always a factor, especially for a car like the Versa. To say that it is not an issue at all for the Versa, that if one cared about MPG, he or she should just get a hybrid, is too radical a statement for many to take, including myself. It IS and has been a factor for me and for many people, and a car like the Versa cannot help but invite a higher weighting in the MPG category than cars in other, larger segments. It's just the nature of the game.
  • If only car buying were that simple! Keep your bill, take the car home, and if in a week or so you find it's a Dog take it back to the Dealership and get your money back.
    Today my wife and I took our new Versa SL CVT on a nice easy 120 mile round trip to 'town'.
    Did a little shopping and returned home with the cruise set at about 65 mph. (100 miles Highway driving, 20 miles in town)
    Topped up the tank, did the numbers (120 miles, divide by 5.5 gals) and got a ghastly round trip reading of 21.8 MPG.
    Think we would take this $22,000 car back if we could?

    You Betcha!
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    WOW my Versa has never gotten anything less then 27... On my trip to San Diego, driving 80 I got 29...

    Tony
  • Didn't all that starting up of the car after each trip to the store affect milliage? I Personally think Nissan's numbers are out of wack but not by that much. Finally what are the traffic conditions? Stop and go driving kills gas millage.
  • Here are some threads of intrest: link title

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  • Hey flight nurse IF I HAD KNOWN that THE VERSA WOULD NOT GET ME 36 MPG I WOULD NOT HAVE PURCHASED IT !!!!!
    NOW YOU HAVE HEARD SOMEONE SAY IT .
    I need the fuel mileage I want Nissan to post a better number on the window. I was told by Nissan the range was 30 to 40 MPG for this car so they picked a "mid range number" but no one seems to be able to get close to that estimate. I also own a Hyundia Elantra also rated on the window at 36 MPG I am now driving it and my wife has the Versa and I am BEATING the window estimate 41.9, 37.6 and 38.2MPG on the same highway at the same speed. Nissan needs to get thier act together.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    Hey Mikey if you want mileage then either get yourself a Hybrid, PEIORD... Doesn't what hybrid you buy it well get better mileage...

    BTW, Nissan isn't the one who "posts" those numbers, its the US Government. What is so funny is, this has been happening for years, and for the life of me, can't figure out why people are so upset, the Pirus was rated at 60 in the city and we all know that isn't right, so why is it such a supirse to people that thier Versa aren't getting what the EPA says its supose to get...
  • Tony, I don't need to buy a HYBRID to beat the MPG of my Versa....my 1997 Buick Park Ave Ultra Supercharged, will do it, our 1994 Nissan Maxim will do it, and even my Honda Odyssey will do it.
    I wonder what the local Hyundai dealer would give me on a Versa trade in, one month old?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    You don't need a hybrid to get good mileage. My brother has an Accord (much larger and more powerfull than a Versa) that gets him 38 mpg average on his commute (It is a stick shift so that helps). He can get 41 or 42 If he keeps his speed real low on pure highway driving.

    That car is rated 34 on the highway - the 36 rated versa should be able to match that.

    I think part of the problem is that the CVT "cheats" the EPA a little. CR got both the CVT and manual at 36 mpg even though the cvt is rated 36 and the manual is rated 34 (EPA).

    The Versa is a nice package and Nissan can do efficient vehicles (the new Altima is best in class at 26/35), but the Versa certainly could be more efficient.

    BTW CR got the 2.0 liter Mazda 3 at 42 mpg with the stick shift on the highway - that is with a 150 hp 2.0 liter engine. 36 mpg (also from CR)from a smaller vehicle with a 1.8 is far from where is could/should be.
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