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Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan New Owner Reports

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  • :shades: congrats!!.The 4/5sp.is a blast to drive :)
  • It's been 3 days since we received our Fusion SE I4/5 speed with the Sport Appearance package.

    Black with tinted windows.

    We also have a leased Freestyle which we're returning in March 08 and to be frank, I really don't think we're going to be putting too many more miles on it until then.

    The Fusion is fun to drive; European feel, stylish, no-nonsense interior, tons of space, economical.

    We do a lot of city driving and love driving manual. The smaller engine is perfect. On the highway, it's effortless.

    We're a young family and we want to stay away from "family"-type cars. The Fusion fits in perfectly with our lifestyle. The kids love it. My 3-year loves it because it's the same cars as those used in Nascar.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    My 3-year loves it because it's the same cars as those used in Nascar.

    So how long will you wait before you tell him the truth? ;)
  • Waitaminute...that's what the salesguy told me...

    You mean it's not true?! ;)
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    Would a salesperson lie? :confuse:
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Now will be available on SEL and V6 and will include 18 inch wheel. Still only in 4 colors. ORDER MINE NOW.

    Mark.
  • I took delivery of a Black on Black, cloth seats 2007 Milan with auto trans on August 8, 2007. In the under two months that I have owned this vehicle I have both positive and negative attributes to report. As a benchmark I am using a 2007 Honda Accord SE which a relative owns. I am not certain it is fair to compare the vehicles, however they are in a similar class, even though the Accord costs $1,000 to $2,000 more, depending on the deal you get.

    I was in the market myself for an 07 Accord SE and would have purchased one, even though the car costs more, but I could not find a dealer that would give me zero percent financing over three years as I got with the Mercury. More Importantly I wanted to buy American, more on that later.

    The Milan's engine, the 4 cylinder, 160 hp, 2.3 liter Duratec version is underpowered. I should have gone with a six but wanted to save on the high cost of fuel. I am reading that the six has comparable mileage and much more power to boot so the decision to go with the four might have been a mistake, however it was more economical from an initial purchase point of view.

    Don't get me wrong, the engine is a proven design and is used in the Mazda as well, and is ok, but is noisy when pushed hard. The Accord has a 2.4 liter VTEC (both engines are 16 valve) with 166 hp and is quieter, smoother, and has more low end power.

    Once over 35-40 mph with the Mercury there is plenty of power and smooth sailing at a comfortable 80 mph. Ford should be able to make a 4 banger that is as smooth and refined as the Accord and does not have the low end power issues and noise as exhibited in the Milan.

    I have somewhat of a lead foot and with the AC on I am experiencing terrible mileage. The vehicle came with a full tank of gas, but since then I have filled up three times at a cost of $117 ($3.00-$3.50 per gallon in the NYC area)
    There are approximately 875 miles on the odometer. Mileage is improving as mileage increases and hopefully as things get cooler in NYC, no AC will be needed and mileage will improve further.

    The vehicle I took delivery of was the last one of its kind that the dealer had and black is a nice color, however it shows every speck of dirt/dust. Gray/Charcoal is better at disguising dust. Unfortunately there are some minor scratches on the vehicle already, due to careless, lackluster parking lot attendants, who suggest that the vehicle was not scratched by them and get angry at you for implying that the scratches were caused by them. I guess the scratches can be buffed out. What can you do, I guess.

    The LED tail lamps are cool. However, the segments of the tail lights that are on the trunk lid that meet up with the segments that are part of the body of the car do not line up properly and are off by 1/5 of an inch. Fit and Finish issue there.

    The overall design is very nice and striking. Rear view vision is hampered by a high aerodynamic tail end and the rear stop lamp that would have been better incorporated into the trunk lid as in the Accord. Leg room in front is great, a few more inches over the Accord. The Accord is wider and it would be prudent for Ford to widen the vehicle by four inches or so in future iterations to improve on hip room and have wider bucket seats as well.

    No fog lamps in the base model, but can be added. Dash design is elegant,and has a digital information center, however outdated nineties era styling is apparent with and the headlamp switch is mounted to low. The factory CD radio sounds great however the only rear speakers are in the doors and there are three empty spaces below the rear deck for speakers that would be part of the premium audio which is found in higher trim levels. On occasion there is some static that crops up through the speakers.

    The included mats are of low quality and I could see that they will not protect the carpet below as time passes, so I suggest replacing them with a weathertech branded set. Weathertech mats are expensive, but they will protect your vehicle and keep the underlying carpet in good shape for years to come and this will help you when it comes time to sell/trade in the vehicle.

    The dealer tried to sell me on a security system for $500.00, or $600.00 with a remote start feature. I asked for a better price, but they would not budge. I went after market. I see though that the system was already installed and then removed due to excess black electrical tape that is wrapped around wires in the trunk, under dash and behind the grill area.

    The vehicle handles very well at all speeds and the anti-lock brakes really work. I found that out due to a couple of near take-outs of reckless bicyclists. Potholes and poor roads in NYC cause this vehicle to shake and thump all over. Highway travel is smooth sailing as long as the road is smooth.

    I am currently looking for ways to better improve the performance of the vehicle. Perhaps with a different exhaust system. The car has twin tailpipes, but they are plain dark metal, bland looking, and not chrome tipped as in the six cylinder models.

    Now as far as the Mercury being an American car and the Honda being a foreign/Japanese vehicle;

    Only six percent of the Honda dollars land up going back to Japan. The Honda is made in Marysville, Ohio, by American workers, unfortunately non-union but still American. Fifty-nine percent of the Accord parts are made in the U.S.A. Kudos to Honda.

    The Milan although considered an American/Domestic vehicle as is the Ford Fusion sister car, is made in Hermosillo, Mexico, by Mexican workers with parts also made there. And those vehicles also have to be shipped from Mexico into the U.S. We all know about the troubles Ford has and the Mercury division is rumored to shutter within the next few years due to poor sales, just as GM discontinued the Oldsmobile brand.

    It seems that Ford is supporting the Mexican economy rather than the U.S. economy in which it markets and sells vehicles too. Despite cheap labor and vehicles that cost less to produce vs the Japanese brands, Ford is still deep in the red, in part due to pension and health care costs for their current and prior employees.

    I will report back on the Milan periodically. Would I buy a Milan again? Yes, but only a six cylinder and if they widen the vehicle and modernize the dash to bring it up to the year 2000+. That and start producing more vehicles on American soil.
  • urnewsurnews Posts: 668
    The Milan's engine, the 4 cylinder, 160 hp, 2.3 liter Duratec version is underpowered. I should have gone with a six but wanted to save on the high cost of fuel. I am reading that the six has comparable mileage and much more power to boot so the decision to go with the four might have been a mistake, however it was more economical from an initial purchase point of view.

    Batbear, I read your report on your Milan with great interest. We purchased a loaded ($27,105 MSRP) 2007 3.0-liter V6 AWD SEL Fusion on Dec. 4, 2006 and now have 4,700 miles on it after nearly 10 months.

    We get horrific in-city gas mileage, a constant 14.8 but it does deliver 24-26 mpg on highway travel. I wish we had ordered an I4 instead of taking the V6 model that was on the lot.

    For about the first 1,500 miles the car was stuck at 13 mpg. The 14.8 we are getting now is an improvement. The revised EPA estimate for this power train is 17 mpg city and 24 mpg highway.

    The fit and finish on our Fusion is perfect and we have zero complaints about the car except for the crummy mileage. I could put up with a little engine noise for 20 mpg in-city mileage.

    Some people deride the Duratec 3.0 as an "old" engine, one that does not deliver much in the way of performance. It is totally adequate for us and is quite peppy in my book.

    I think the AWD feature is the fly in the ointment when it comes to mileage. We don't really need AWD in our climate. Again, the car came equipped this way. It's not a feature I would order nor one I would recommend, except to someone who lived in the snow belt and who didn't care about mileage.

    People on the four forums that I visit generally report decent mileage for the V6 without AWD. The reason that we wanted a V6 was because of a bad experience with a four cylinder Mustang in the 1980s. It was a nice enough car but terribly underpowered. I should have known that today's I4s are much better. The difference is horsepower is not all that great, 160 versus 221.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    My partner mainly drives our 2006 Fusion SE. We purchased in Aug of 06 and now have 15k.

    Things I like:
    Problem free. Seating Comfort. Roominess. quality of fit-n-finish for the price. Camel seats stayed clean, Surprise!. Design is striking to me from just about every angle. Standard Equipment was impressive for price. t disc CD has good sound but the bass can rattle the door panels even after the TSB was done. Controls are easy to operate. Love the audio controls on the wheel.

    Things I don't like:
    Auto trans could be smoother. I really hate autos so I might be overly critical. I do feel that the 6F in the EDGE/Taurus shifts much smoother. I dislike the noise of the engine under acceleration. Car is quiet at speed and road/tire noise is very subduded. Noise is no greater than the Nissan Altima which I also sell at my dealership.

    Main complaint is that the stock tires on the SE are very easy to push and make squeal. The car corners flat and you are squeling the tires before you feel any body roll.

    Mark
  • urnewsurnews Posts: 668
    Mark,
    You didn't mention if your 2006 SE Fusion was an I4 2.3 or a V6 3.0. The reference to the transmission leads me to believe it might be the five-speed automatic, meaning the car has the four-banger engine. We have a 2007 AWD SEL with the 3.0-liter V6 and a six-speed automatic, which is very smooth-shifting.
  • I purchased a black I4 5 speed manual about three weeks ago. I have been getting 25 MPG city driving since I purchased the car. In addition, last weekend we went out of town to a football game. The MPG for the trip was 32 (95% highway).

    So far I have been very pleased.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    For 2008 manual trans Milans will not be available as "stock" orders. If you want the manual trans, you will have to order one from the factory.

    Mark.
  • urnews; thanks, I am glad you enjoyed reading my review as I have enjoyed reading yours.

    Let me clarify that I am not complaining about the Milan's fit and finish;everything is ok except for the tail light issue which you have to concentrate on to notice. When I push down on the trunk lid a bit the lights line up properly, however momentarily. I believe that the pistons/mini-shocks that hold the trunk open are overcharged and that contributes to the upwards pressure on the trunk lid that causes the alignment issue as well as requiring a firm downwards motion to close the trunk on the first try. Is any one else experiencing this?

    I Forgot to add a few things. The Accord has a locking fuel door (locks from the inside) as well as the ability to lock the trunk from the inside in addition to a locking glove box and rear fold down seats that lock. The sections of the Milan's rear bench seat fold down nicely, however do not lock and the trunk opens with just a push of a button on the dash, none of the above are locking on the Milan, and the fuel filler door just pulls open. No auxiliary locks means no need for a valet key.

    There are Job 1 and Job 2 revisions on the Fusion/Milan, correct me if I am wrong mschmal, and Job 2 has the 6 speed Japanese made Aisin-Warner Transmission, over the 5 speed in Job 1. Job 2 revisions add a MP3 jack to the stereo enabling the "line-in" function to play music from an IPOD or other MP3 player for example.

    Job 2 (manufactured after Jan 2007) adds beefed up interior components and improves crash protection as well.

    See the following Consumer Reports crash test link and select both years to hear information and to see the crash tests.

    http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/safety-recalls/carcrashtest/crashtestvid- eo.htm

    Are you guys getting the mileage from the info display on the dash or calculating the mileage on your own? I read in these forums to reset the MPG counter at each fill up.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    All I4 Fulans use the 5 speed auto. All V6 models use the Aisin 6 speed.
  • I am glad you posted about the mileage. I got blasted when I first posted mine. I have had my 06 V6 Fusion now for 16 months. The mileage improved. I now get about 16-17 in town and around 27+ on interstate driving and I do reset it after each fill up. I did the paper thing for a while but quit after a few months. I figured it really didn't matter as I was going to have to drive it anyway no matter what the gas mileage. Considered trading within the first 6 months, but would have lost too much money to do so. I have not had any problems with my car. I bought it in June of 06 and went with the 0 interest for 3 years. On July 1st of 06 they came out with the 0 interest for 5 years with a longer warranty but Ford refused to change my financing even though it was just a few days later. Would have been a big help to me if they had let me know about the "new" promotion for July. Oh well, luck of the draw I guess. Anyway, good luck with your new car!
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Is it by design?

    The Milan on my showroom floor also has taillights on the trunk lid that do not line up exactly with the taillights on the fender.

    Curiously though the crease at the top of the hood lines up with the crease in the fender. Accordingly it appears to mean that the design was off, not the build.

    Mark.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Well, I now have 21,000 trouble free miles on my fusion SEL V6. Long road trips I average about 29.7MPG cruising at 70-75. The car is solid as day 1 with no squeaks or rattles. My plan next year is to buy 18" rims and new tires. I am very happy with this car and have recommended to others to test drive both the Milan/Fusion.
    Likes - reliability, fit/finish, styling and comfort.
    Dislikes - rear view is a bummer, If Ford just moved the 3rd brake light to the trunk it would help much! Just to keep up with image, a 240HP V6, 180HP 4cyl needs to come now. 6spd for both v6 and 4cyl.
  • danr2danr2 Posts: 5
    I dig my 06 3.0 Milan...I put 18" OZ 35th annv. wheels with BF Goodrich G-Force radials..I car kicks tail on 07 Camry's all day long....their supposedly stronger motor had not made an apperance at the stoplights I frequent..

    dXR :shades:
  • bj02176bj02176 Posts: 115
    You have got to be kidding, you must be competing against all 4 cyl Camry's, While my 2006 Fusion was a great car, I traded it for a 2007 Sante Fe I thought my 2003 4 cyl Lx Accord was just as fast. Maybe a tad slower, still had the same merging problems with both.

    Anyway a great Mexican built car, gas mileage with mostly highway driving was 21.something. Handled great, stuck to the road, just needs the bigger engine that is in the new Edge and Taurus.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    I own a V6 SEL Fusion. I can't tell you how many Camry SE 4cyl owners I have put into thier place. SE Camry looks fast, but with the 4cyl its a joke. V6 Camry however, quick, in one word. I raced one off the line and it was pretty neck and neck until about 40MPH, the Camry V6 pulled away at a steady pace. ;)
  • OMG, I feel like I am about to cry. I have the same whining noise in my 2008 Ford Fusion, it sounds like a distant fire siren. VERY ANNOYING. I can not get used to it they too told me it was normal engine noise. I feel like I am going out of my mind. I have taken it to two dealership, that don't even want to do a drive with me to see what I mean. Can you give me a little more information on what they did to fix it. This is my main concern with my car. It only has 20800 miles on it, and I have tried twice to get rid of the car by trade, but owe too much on it, since I've only made a few payments. Please help me!!
  • Hi, I have a 08 Ford Fusion S with about 20800 miles on it. I like the car a lot especially the look and feel of it. I have however had a few issues that I am trying to get fixed. The main thing is the whining noise that I hear when accelerating that like I posted on Barbara383, sounds like a distant fire engine, I am so annoyed with it and it drives me crazy. Has anyone other than Barbara383 had an issue or hear this and if so what can be done about it. I also find that my car is not very soft at idle and has a slight ticking noise that you can hear over the belt, but that is only when idling, can't hear it while driving. The dealer is looking at my driver's seat that squeaks over every single bump or turn, but that doesn't concern me as much as the whining noise. I also took my car to a tire dealer and had them look at a clicking noise coming from what appears to be the drivers side tire, he said that I needed brake clips installed, so I'll have to ask them about that when I go back. My molding on the side of the passanger door was separating and they will be repaing that soon. Like I said mainly concerned with the whining noise so If anyone has encountered this or know what can be done. Please help!!
  • jsadka1jsadka1 Posts: 9
    Well mine is more like a "hooping" noise. It is very brief and only happens when I first take off. Could your's just be noise from the tires? I had a 2006 fusion and didn't have any siren like noise. I did have the ticking when idling like the other post but never had it checked out. Overall, my fusion was a good car. I didn't like the shorter turn radius though. Good luck!
  • savethelandsavetheland Posts: 671
    jsadka1 if you have 3.0L V6 engine - I had ticking sound during idle on my 2002 Mercury Sable with Duratec 3.0L engine, older version of one used on Fusion. It is not normal. Edmunds maintainance board I read that there was a TSB issued by Ford and asked dealer to fix it during 25K miles maintainace visit. The cause is camshaft bolts that were not torqued properly. They retorqued the bolts and it's been fine since. I suggest you to go back to the dealer while it's still under warranty and tell them about TSB or and explain what possible reason may be.

    Sable proved to be very reliable car. I have 115,000 miles on it with no issues or repair except of this TSB. Another recomendation is to replace water pump at 120K miles as preventive measure because that how normall lifespan of waterpump. On Japanese cars it is normally replaced during 100K mile service along with timing belt.
  • I just purchased a new 2009 Mercury Milan Premier I-4 two weeks ago and could not be more pleased. I had been in the market for a new car for the last year and had been checking out several makes and models (Taurus, Impala, Fusion, Malibu and Focus) when the Cash for Clunkers program started, I traded in my 1996 Ford T-Bird and made the decision to purchase a Fusion, but my local Ford-Lincoln-Mercury dealerships stock on Fusions was extremely low with the options that I wanted (Red with camel leather interior, Sync, Sirus, and the moon & tune package). I then took a closer look at the Milan and was pleased to find that I liked the styling better and they had one exactly like I wanted.

    My friends (mostly Honda and Toyota owners) have been suprised by the stylish good looks, comfortable ride, good mpg, and outstanding fit and finish. The only downside to this purchase was that my wife became jealous and bought herself a new Escape later the same week!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,618
    you an your wife have some pretty decent vehicles.
    we have 2 escapes and a fusion.
  • cannon3cannon3 Posts: 296
    Fusion/Milan have been around now for a while and they should have a thread for us owners with miles on them. I own a 2006 SEL V6 in silver frost with black leather, sun roof, the works. I now have about 45,000 trouble free, squeak free miles on this car. Solid, this car is as solid as the day I bought it. I do have one issue however, when I reach speeds of 60+ I have slight wind noise in the windshield area. You have to turn off the radio in order to listen for it.
    In 2006 I bought this car and was told by the Honda/Toyota crowd I would be sorry, it was going to fall apart, have all kinds of problems.. I paid thousands less and know I made the right choice.
  • I do not know how Toyota/Honda crowd could come up with their outrageous conclusions. I have Mercury Sable with 120K miles and did not have any problems so far. Consumer Report rates Sable/Taurus reliability for last 6 years as "above average", almost the same as before mentioned Camry/Accord. I have some doubt about Erupean brands and GM/Chrysler about reliability, but not Ford.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    As a member of the "Honda crowd" (I've owned five so far), I agree with savetheland--many folks underestimate Ford. The Taurus/Sable twins have a longstanding record of solid reliability--not to mention terrific safety performance, and low insurance rates as a result. A used Taurus or Sable is the perfect first car for a teenager.

    The Fusion and Milan seem to have maintained excellent reliability since their introduction. I would not hesitate for a moment to purchase one if I needed a car in that size/price range. But I do think the initial depreciation makes them a better buy used than new. The used car market hasn't yet caught onto this terrific little secret.
  • Rental Tauruses had cheaply made interiors, that may be the reason to underestimate Taurus. Technically it also was carryover from 1986 model with ancient ineffective pushrod V6 Vulcan (American companies were only ones making pushrod engines in 80s-2000s). Vulcan is not well suited for freeways, it simply does not accelerate - I remember I4 Camry felt more like V6 in its smoothness and power than Vulcan.

    Regarding resale values it goes upward for Fords for some time. For Fusion and new Taurus it will aproach at least to Toyota level soon. I for one feel no pressure to sell my Sable since it just runs strong and holds up pretty well. I bought it in pretty good deal new for 18.5K (21.5K with taxes and fees). And it is car with DOHC V6, all leather interior, moonroof and other amenities, very comfortable for daily commute. Price was similar to the price of I4 Accord/Camry at that time
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