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Acura TSX vs. Infiniti G35

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  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR6kAD2qa54

    Watch the video.

    2-3 seconds faster to 60?? So, you're saying the G35 does 0-60 in what 6.4, 5.4, or 4.4 seconds? In 2004, the TSX figures for 6spd were Manual Transmission. I would imagine the 2006 with the increase in hp may do a tiny bit better unless the weight went up. Sorry, I think you're way off. I've driven the G35, 2004 coupe many times. Fast car, for sure. But, you sound like you think you're driving an 2008 M3.

    Car & Driver July 2003
    0-60 - 7.2
    1/4 mile - 15.5

    Car and Driver 2004 1/4 mile 15.6 @ 91mph with a 6 speed manual TSX.

    2004 data
    Automobile Acura TSX 16.1 @ 89mph (with a 6 speed). BMW 325i (16.2 @ 87), Audi A4 (16.5 @ 85) and almost the same as the Saab 9-3 Linear (16.0 @ 89).

    So, the G35 does 0-60 in 4-2-5.2? Not really.

    2003 G35 coupe manual
    1/4 mile 14.23 @ 99.4 (motortrend road test)
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    You show your ignorance by making everything personal. I've read as slow as 8.2 for tsx and as fast as 5.2 for G35 (07G, of course). 60mph is 88 fps, so even being nice and saying 2 secs faster has a G 176 feet ahead assuming the drive launches the tsx perfectly. Your car, for it's price range, accelerates slowly...and you are happy with that. Move on. If I want thrills in turns, I do it for real with my s2000, which actually accelerates AND turns. If I wanted a car with no balls that handled good, my FUN car would have been a miata. Having been the previous owner of a TL, I passed on the TSX...I must have been feeling insecure or something that day. Call is sporty, call it whatever you want...I call it way underpowered for this segment. And I wanted an M3, I would have an M3, or 911 for that matter. I have a G instead.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    P.S. Edmunds on 07G Sport Auto :
    Class-leading thrust
    As you would expect from the above paragraph, the G35 blows all 12 doors off its German rivals, while the Lexus matches the Infiniti's performance. Our tester tore up the track with a scorching 0-60-mph run of 5.6 seconds and a quarter-mile performance of 13.9 seconds at 102 mph. The last 330i we tested, which had a six-speed manual, was nearly a second slower in each test.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    You're joking with that video, right? You denounce the need for acceleration then find a clip of some retard who can't drive barely beating a tsx in a drag race? FYI, 100 mph is 146.6 fps. So a car hitting 100 in a quarter mile covers nearly 300 feet in 2 seconds at the end of the track. High fifteen 1/4 mile tsx, high 13 quarter mile G? 2 secs is about 19 car lengths (TSX is 183.3 inches long) 19 ! ! ! Sluggish acceleration like that is just unbelievable to me in a sports sedan. Oh, and if you think the tsx has more features, you might want to go drive a new G. It offers almost everything the RL does, and some things it doesn't (Mainly audio).
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    "You show your ignorance by making everything personal".

    You're sweet! Let's lose the name calling. Really. I've read as slow as 6.2 for the G35 and as fast as 6.7 for the TSX (solid point you there!?).

    "Your car, for it's price range, accelerates slowly...and you are happy with that"

    My car for the price range has more features than a G35. So, while you're pulling away from the Civics, I'm on my blue tooth and punching in addresses you use a map for.

    If I want thrills in turns, I do it for real with my s2000, which actually accelerates AND turns.

    If i want thrills, I do it with your s2000? I think i know what you were trying to get at. Yup, it's a blast. Prefer it to the G35.

    I must have been feeling insecure or something that day

    I guess

    You're correct, you wanted an M3 or a 911.
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    I remember that article. The last 330i they tested was by a g35 owner wishing they had purchased it instead.
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    You're joking with that video, right? You denounce the need for acceleration then find a clip of some retard who can't drive barely beating a tsx in a drag race?

    Speaking of ignorance. The term is intellectual disabilty. I'm a physician that works with them. "Retard" is actually offensive. One day if you have children, you'll understand.

    Onto cars again.

    That video was sent to me by someone. I passed it on because I thought it was perfect for our conversation. I was correct. I've also been on the highway with a 2003-2004 g35 from about 120km - 180km. I knew the driver and the g35 pulled away rather slowly. Not bad for a 4.

    Sluggish acceleration like that is just unbelievable to me in a sports sedan. Oh, and if you think the tsx has more features, you might want to go drive a new G. It offers almost everything the RL does, and some things it doesn't (Mainly audio).

    You're right. I saw the new g37 coupe and the new sedan looks better. I'm not sure if this thread is about the 2008 G35 coupe vs the TSX. I don't care for the RL, so i'm with you there. I've driven the new sedan, as a retal car. It's fast. Just zero appeal to me.

    Sluggish acceleration like that is just unbelievable to me in a sports sedan.

    That statement is unbelievable.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    You really just don't get it. Read up on the new G, then tell me about your features. And you must be my financial advisor to know that I only long for an M3, or 911, yet can't afford them..so I settle for a G. If you link to my picture in one of the previous posts, that is combined value of a 911C4S (With good negotiating) I drive what I want...not what I can scrape up the payments for.
    Oh yeh, here is edmunds (Same site as G stats on the TSX)
    I would be embarrassed to even bring up acceleration, or braking for that matter. A tsx will do 0-60 in 6.7 down a hill with a tailwind and slicks....maybe.
    0 - 30 (sec): 2.8
    0 - 45 (sec): 5.3
    0 - 60 (sec): 8.3
    0 - 75 (sec): 12.2
    1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 16.30 @ 86.33
    30 - 0 (ft): 33.13
    60 - 0 (ft): 127.87

    P.S. The only time a G is 10K more than a tsx is with every single option available..rendering your superior features claim even more silly.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    Ironic that someone who attacks a preference as a character shortcoming worries about someone else offending someone with a non P-C term. RL is flagship..it was mentioned for your incorrect features claim. I'm glad your friend humored you with your car. My S2K would be hard pressed to lose My G on anything but the tightest roads. G would actually win on the highway.
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    I could afford the extra 10k, and the M3, but my advisor said don't spend more than 10% of your income on a car. That's why I have a home.

    I drive what I want...not what I can scrape up the payments for.

    If you drive what you want, why do you drive a g35?

    I'm in Canada. A TSX with navigation is 40k. G35 with Navigation, and sport package is $51,370.00 before Tax. I'm 35 years of age, with a home, family and I'm a car enthusiast. At this point in my life, I want to save, build assests and drive a fun car that allows me to have financial freedom and own the things I do. I'm the person that Acura was marketing the car for. It fits my life perfectly. So, you're missing the point. I don't want a g35, as it does not appeal to me. Faster or not. I see kids in my area that live at home with their parents driving them. I don't associate the g35 with status or it being worth my extra 10 or more grand. Over 4 years with interest, that's 14k. Keep in mind in Canada you have to earn 28k to get 14k (50% tax bracket here). You're 10k difference means I have to earn 28 thousand dollars more to drive the "next class level" of car. I'm just explaining this to you so you understand that for 40k, which was my price range, it was the best for me. I think it plenty fast and a true joy to drive for me everyday. I'm sure you feel that way about your car.

    You have it good in the US, with cars.

    Here's a quote for you from a recent comparison test.

    That leaves us with the number one car here on the list, the Acura TSX. It's the most complete car on the list, with fluid handling, a gearbox that feels as if all of its innards are coated with Teflon, and refinement that others simply couldn't match. If that wasn't enough, the Acura's technology left us deeply impressed and often with our jaws dropped.
    This was comparing the Mazda 6, Jetta 2.0, volvo s40 and Acura TSX.

    http://www.carpages.ca/go/roadtest/2006_acura_tsx_vs_mazda6_sport_gtv6_vs_volksw- - - - agen_jetta_20t_vs_volvo_s40_t5_comparison_test.aspx


    I think it's fantastic that a car that's not even in the same 'class' as the G35 is being compared to it.

    "You really just don't get it."

    Will all do respect. We're not on the same page and i'm ok with that.
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    You're fixated on which car is fastest. You're entire discussion of what's important about a car is based on which car would 'win'. That sounds like insecurity really. There are SUV's that are faster than a g35. A neon could be faster. For some of us, it's no big deal, because I don't drive to 'win'.
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    http://www.topspeed.com/cars/infiniti/infiniti-g37-convertible-ar39487/picture18- 5216-0.html

    G37 convertible. Thought you like to see this while you write another message about how fast your car is. :shades:
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    You guys need to back off and stand down. This has turned into a personal spitting contest that's not helpful to anyone.

    Agree to disagree and move on. And please knock off the personal remarks altogether.
  • I currently drive a TSX. The lease is up in October. I've been car shopping and the G35 is at the top of my list.

    The TSX is a nice car, but very neutral- nothing to love or hate about it. The G35 seems more of a comparison to the TL (which I think is ugly).

    Also test drove the Lexus IS250. Very nice, but given the price difference between the IS and TSX, I'd buy another TSX.

    The G35 offers much more than the TSX, including a personality!
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    I don't understand why people say you can't compare these cars. They both fulfill the same role in the marketplace, just with different emphasis. Does everyone here buy the most expensive car they can afford

    I understand...

    My decision came down to the 2007 Infiniti G35 -or- the 2007 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640.

    For me, it had nothing to do with price or the top speed/0-60 times, even though the G was $300,000 less in price.

    The G had more cup holders. :P
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    People are welcome to compare cars across segments. People who think the comparos are inappropriate are welcome not to participate. :P
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    Actually Pat, jus yesterday, you asked if anyone felt this comparo was justified or if it was time to close.

    The fact is, although I completely agree with you on this, this thread has just become a little out of control and some have gotten a little offensive/defensive with their posts.

    There hasn't been any real TSX vs G35 updates to this thread in some time.

    My vote is, stick a fork in this one.... it's done. ;)
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    I've become both offensive and defensive with the post. So, I agree, let's move on. Conversation was dead many submissions ago.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I asked if anyone wanted to continue the comparo and a couple of posters indicated that they do. If I had made up my mind to pack it in when I asked the question, I would have just done it instead of asking.

    Now I'm serious - if you are not interested in this discussion, please stop posting in it. It will dry up and blow away if people stop posting. No one is preventing you from "moving on" as you are requesting.

    I am going to insist that going forward posts be on topic. Any further "direction" anyone feels the need to give me ;) should be done via email.

    Thanks.
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    With the Canadian dollar at around .95, I'm not sure why i'm paying that much more for a car here. Anyone know? Perhaps it's because the Canadian market is a rounding error in the big picture compared to the european and US car segment. Also, the igloo i live in can't park anything bigger than the TSX ;)

    My lease will be up in about 2.5 years, so I'll be looking to see what Acura brings out. Right now, I'm having a blast with the TSX, and just put the A-spec ebony finish rims on the car.

    I'm really loving the look of the new 3-series coupe and the audi A5. BMW will have to have a stong incentive with interest rates for me, just not paying 7.9% on any car. My TSX was at 2.9%.

    I'd like to see a TSX coupe that's lighter and smaller than the G37 come out. Great styling with the new G37. If the TSX goes more 'upscale', it would be interesting to see if they could create a car that offers the same price advantage and options of this TSX. I'd prefer a normally aspirated engine over the turbo, with an optional 4x drive. If they could keep the weight down (not sure that's possible with 4x drive), I'd like to see a 8000rpm red line. Keep the fun factor high, like this version and i'd consider it over a G37 coupe. I don't care for that huge dial on the G37 dash, and sitting in the new coupe, it felt like all the work was done modifying the lines of the outside, but the inside still felt cheaper than the exterior look of the car. I hope that exhaust sound changes on the G37. Anyone else like or dislike that exhaust sound on the G35?? My brother has an FX35, with that same buzzing sound.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    I've been told by my Acura dealer that all cars within their lineup will soon be SH-AWD, so within the next year or two, that will include the TSX.

    I personally love the sound of the exhaust on my G35.
    I've heard the FX35 and it is a weird sound, but the G35 does not sound quite the same. It's a lower tone with a little more grunt... not that strange buzzing noise like in the FX.

    I've been liking the BMW 335 from what I've seen online.
    A co-worker just bought one (coupe) and he parks it right next to my G in the morning.

    It's completely ugly when it's sitting next to the G, n my own opinion. ;)
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    I hope not. i prefer fwd or even rwd
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    What year is your G35?
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    Born March, 07
  • gdoctsx1gdoctsx1 Posts: 60
    Very nice. I've been seeing the new models around the area where I live. Looks like they've got the styling down for this model. I thought the previous model looked a little narrow, but the new one looks "beefier". Watch the cops in that machine!
  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,160
    I can see this chat has not changed since my last post. Keep it going Host PAT.. anyway I would like to address the G35's interior --I think its fantastic-- the nav system and all the entertainment features are great..bose, 6 disk, hard drive, compact flash, sat radio and a mpg hookup --the tsx also has a real nice interior and nice nav system but infiniti has really raised the bar and incorporated the interior of the M to the lower G. The Tsx and the TL are a little dated at this point but I think for the price the TSX is one fantastic auto..but watch out the new accord might be a better deal.. in EX 4cyl form its pumpin out the same 200hp and a newer layout and in v6 form its got a 60 hp advantage with a better interior. its amazing how one year can change the automotive landscape.. i remember in 2000 when i bought my acura integra gsr with 170hp (and a fantastic engine and manual) now 300 hp is the standard along with climate control-ipods and stability control. I do think the g35 right now is that standard the others are looking at --yes bmw and acura along with lexus == the reason is the technology in the car the fantastic nissan engine and the price its hard to beat. Look at the sales numbers and they'll tell you the same.
  • I would suggest anyone in the market for a great overall car, grab a TSX while you can. My experience has been nothing but positive. I put the Aspec rims on the car and it looks a lot more aggressive. The new Accord, well...hmmmmmm. I'm trying to like it. The coupe, perhaps. The sedan, that thing could have 400hp, still not into the styling. The G35 Sedan and coupe are tough to beat. I personally don't care for the interior (sorry sweendogy). The clock annoys me and still find the interior a bit ergonomically challenged. The interior on the doors is flat, bland and the cabin feels a tad narrow (must be some illusion, because i'm sure it's wider than it feels). However, bang for the buck, it's about the best out there. Looks great on the outside, tons of power and features. It's the interior that kills it for me. After sitting in even the now 'long in the tooth' TSX, still looks better to me. Albeit, the G35 seats felt exceptionally comfortable with great lateral support. I'll see what happens when my lease is up. If the IS350 had back seats, it would be in the running. Perhaps the interior of an Acura, refinement of the Lexus and the looks of the G35 - or a buggati veron if you have a spare 1.4million.
  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,160
    G35 interior bland?? dont see it-- are we talking about the 2007??? I think for 07 they did a good job making it more userfriendly. Voice control of everything along with easy button control of every function (sorry IDRIVE) could not be better. I do think its a little narrow on the inside and the steering wheel not the best.. The clock is a infiniti gimick and a non factor for me. I would agree with you on the TSX great car but again for that kind of money its prob worth a look at the new accord or even branch out --Saab new 93, the subaru legacy sport both AWD with more power -- I would of loved to by another acura (for the service and reliablity) but lack of AWD and the overall package for the price has caught up with you/.
  • I hear ya. Never been a Saab fan as the exterior and interior both were lackluster for me. Subaru Legacy just seems to have an identity crisis. Kinda has TL lines with a back end that look old Toyota camry like. I like the Infinity line and I think by sales volume the G35 sedan and coupe are making BMW sweat a little. I prefer the interior of the Acura's and Mercedes. I had a 3 series and never really liked the interior of the BMW. I got 2.9% lease rate and about 4000 off list with the Navi and cost for the Aspec wheels. Very few black 06' TSX's with ebony finish wheels out there. I'm digging the car a lot and find it a joy to drive everyday. Albeit the look of the the new G37 and G35 from the outside is very appealing. They've improved the interior of the 07', but the center console and even the navigation placement with that pop up looking screen is unattractive to me. The horizontal spot with that large round dial is just not working for me. Maybe I would get use to it. Who knows, maybe my next car will be an infinity as they have some of the best overall packages to offer. Swap the interior of the Acura and i'm in.
  • Interesting opinon on the interior of the G35. I'm a big guy (tall-ish and overweight, :P ) and I fit well in the G35. It can feel a bit narrow but I blame that on the sheer size of the center console. It's bloody huge! I'm confused the most by your popup comment. I'm not sure I see what you're talking about... Now, saying it's not attractive, well, that I can understand. Having a big effectively blank, non-matching blob in the middle of the console is always going to be unattractive, imo.
    For reference, here's a good photo of the 07 console:
    http://www.tall-tales-racing.com/img/cars/g35/images/g35_10_console.jpg

    The main thing I don't like about it is the Infiniti Controller. I never use it so it feels wasted to me. (Why use it when I can do everything with the on-wheel controls?!) I also agree on the clock being gimmicky but in a day and age when most teenagers can't seem to read an analog clock it amuses me to have one in the car...
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