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Acura TSX vs. Infiniti G35

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  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    From Acura's press release:

    A new TSX powertrain choice means performance luxury buyers can enjoy a 280 horsepower 3.5L V-6, with sophisticated VTEC® valvetrain control and a dual-stage induction system. For maximum performance and efficiency, the engine will be coupled to Acura's Sequential SportShift automatic transmission, with intelligent features such as Grade Logic Control and Shift Hold Control. If the driver desires, the Sequential SportShift transmission can also be operated manually, via steering-wheel mounted F1®-style paddle shifters.

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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I think that's a smart move on Acura's part. More choices is always a good thing. I wonder if SH-AWD will follow, perhaps as part of the mid-cycle refreshening?
  • drwilscdrwilsc Posts: 140
    Hmm... Let's see... According to Edmunds.com...

    '10 TSX V6 $34,850
    0-60: 6.4
    Quarter: 14.7@96
    5-speed auto

    '09 G37 $33,250
    0-60: 5.4
    Quarter: 13.7@102.8
    7-speed auto

    The numbers do not seem to favor the TSX
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    how much is a 2010 G37 since you are comparing it with a 2010 tsx.
  • gooddeal2gooddeal2 Posts: 749
    IMO, probably 500-700 more than the '09.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    The base G37 doesn't have a moonroof, heated seats, iPod integration, auto-dim rearview mirror, compass/homelink, or Bluetooth. All standard on the TSX.

    To get all that, you must order the G37 Journey with Premium Package. MSRP of $36,200 (2009 model).

    And you can't put a price on the smooth and refined Acura V6 engine - the Infiniti runs like a Peterbuilt by comparison. :P
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    that is more like it-
    Have never had luck with nissan products
  • gooddeal2gooddeal2 Posts: 749
    And you can't put a price on the smooth and refined Acura V6 engine - the Infiniti runs like a Peterbuilt by comparison.

    I wouldn't drive the TSX or TL unless they're 10K cheaper than the G.

    BTW, w/ premium package, you also get Bose, memory seat, heat seat, an power tilt & telescopic steering wheel...not sure if those are included with the base TSX.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    "not sure if those are included with the base TSX."

    That's because you haven't done much research and don't know what you're talking about.

    Both are fine cars in their own way. The G is a little quicker and hard-edged, the TSX is a little more refined and polished. Neither can be considered a luxury car or a sports car.
  • sjaievesjaieve Posts: 252
    OK, initially I wanted to say what I think, then I remembered seeing this on MT, see the readers comments for the TSX here (scroll to the bottom)

    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0906_2010_acura_tsx_v_6/index.htm- l

    Then see the ones for the g37 here

    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0810_2008_infiniti_g37_sedan_test- /index.html

    Generally for every 1 person who liked the TSX, there was probably 10 who hated it. The reverse is true for the G37. As one who drives an 08 G35, moving to the G37 in 2010, I normally like a good fight, this is one I dont even mind losing. Couldnt care less.

    Enjoy the TSX. Can I appeal to those who like the g37 to just let this one go and save you strength for worthy contenders like the 328i or the Hyundai Genesis V6 sedan.

    I am out.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Professional automotive journalists almost always prefer the car that is sportier and more fun to drive. When push comes to shove, 330hp and RWD is always going to be more exciting to play with than 280hp and FWD.

    But nobody can say one car is "better" than the other. If you want a luxurious car that can spit a little fire when you want it to, then the G is a fine choice. There are, however, others who are willing to trade a little vim and vigor for some spit and polish.

    The TSX is not as quick or dynamic as the G37, but it is a jewel of a machine.
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    Thanks- I love my 06 Milano red/ebony 6MT/nav tsx, bought new 11/17/06. It has almost 85,000 problem free miles. Glad you love your G's as much.
  • ingvaringvar Posts: 205
    The base G37 doesn't have a moonroof, heated seats, iPod integration, auto-dim rearview mirror, compass/homelink, or Bluetooth. All standard on the TSX.

    From your list I need only a heated seats. iPod is a joke and useless for me, I don't speak when I drive, no need for Bluetooth :) Moonroof is HUGE minus for me, because of less head space. I better pay $500 in order to get it removed:-)

    smooth and refined Acura V6 engine
    Nice joke. Please, try BMW I6 at list once, you will get an idea about smooth engine. Honda's high revs engines with torque steer far away from "smooth".
  • ingvaringvar Posts: 205
    To be frank, I am not loyal to any brand
    Same here. Had 2001 acura tl-s, replaces brake rotors and pads every 30K miles, trans 3 times, leaking sun roof, clock lamp replaced 6 times, rusted exaust. Drop that junk at 50Kmile and switched to Accord....wrapped brake rotors, leaking windshield... Now I'm driving horrible BMW ....with 0 issues. 58Kmiles and counting
  • gooddeal2gooddeal2 Posts: 749
    That's because you haven't done much research and don't know what you're talking about.

    You're right. I don't care about the TSX because of the weak engine. The last time I look at all of these cars closely was back in late 2007. I tested drive the TL and the G back in 2005 and I couldn't live with the TL even if I could find one cheaper.

    However, you're the person who brought up the lack features on the G. You try to add the premium package to the G to make it equal to the base TSX. So, I think it's fair that I want to know if those 3 features are included in the TSX as well.
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    previously owner a nissan maxima with MT- three transmissions, new engine, leaky sunroof, power windows stopped working, all covered under warranty, I am not loyal to any brand either: previously owned mercedes, volvo, mazda, mitsubishi, hyundai, honda, nissan, eagle, ford, chevy, and now acura (along with a hyundai and mitsubishi truck) My 06 tsx also has 0 issues, 85Kmiles and counting
  • sjaievesjaieve Posts: 252
    Refer to post 127 on this thread, I dont think anything has changed even with the additional horses. Acura's new engine with 250+ horses, not even sure how much exactly, takes the new TSX to 60 in less time than a the Rav 4 V6. Look @ the 305hp TL, slowest car with 300+ horses. The point I am trying to make is not about 0-60 times, but about delivery. Where are all the horses ending up with such uninspiring 0-60 times. The word that comes to mind is wastage, somewhere along the line there is some serious losses being made, something I cannot stand. No one makes more powerful 3.5l engines like Toyota (IS350) and Nissan (VQ engines and the CVT engines in the Maxima and Altima). I would have to add Honda (Honda Accord Coupe V6), but exlude Acura as under that name plate, they have certainly managed to mess up the good stuff available from the parent company. The Accord Coupe V6 is a sexy beast IMHO.

    Handling: Dont even need to go there, another phrase that comes to mind is
    Torque Steer.

    There seems to be a lot of talk about bluetooth, moonroof etc, bear in mind that the average buyer of a G spends 36k (MSRP) on this car. This is enough to get the premium package at least. Also note that the G can never be priced like the TSX, the guys at Nissan would be absolutetly NUTS to go that route. These are serious perfomance cars we are talking about, if you want the VQ engine you need at least 29k (the 350Z) and at that price you are getting the base model. You will notice that even an Evo starts at 32k (base), that is just the way cars in the G's league are priced, save for the Genesis Coupe. There is always an exception to the rule :)

    As I noted in post 127, unless you are truly trying to be myopic and not willing to look at big picture, you will also realize that the G drivers are those guys who looked at the 335i (lucky bastards driving those cars:)) but realized that the car is expensive yet the G is very close in performance to this car. So rather than spend 52k, on a fully loaded 335i. you can save +10k on the G. Many G drivers, I included do not even consider FWD cars.

    And before someone rants about interior room, bells and whistles, refinement, residual value, reliability I would seriously consider picking up a copy of Consumer Report and see who is placed 1st in the ELLPS category. Consumer report is hardly a performance oriented magazine, but looks more at ownership experience. Do you know which car has a 95% approval rating from its owners.

    I am sorry, this is not the right car to pick for a comparison. Have you considered the Maxima, Altima v6, Honda Accord v6, Hyundai Genesis V6 (at least its a RWD), Evo, 328i, A4 2l 4 banger, Camry v6. I think before you can even start dreaming of taking on the G, you should seriously consider these worthy contenders for the TSX. I probably would pick the 328i or the Honda Accord before I can start thinking of the TSX
  • gooddeal2gooddeal2 Posts: 749
    ...talking being loyal to any brand...'m in the same boat...I (we) used to own Corolla, Camry, Solara, Avalon, 323i, Altima and they always had this or that problems. Out of those cars, the Avalon seems the worst of all. Currently, my '07 Altima and '08 G seems to be holding good...but may be b/c they're still relatively new.

    I didn't get any Hondas in the past b/c I don't like their designs at all. However, the current generation of Hondas are not bad. I might try the Accord to replace the Altima in the near future.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    "Bose, memory seat, heat seat, an power tilt & telescopic steering wheel...not sure if those are included with the base TSX."

    "However, you're the person who brought up the lack features on the G. You try to add the premium package to the G to make it equal to the base TSX."

    360w 7-speaker AM/FM/CD/MP3 audio with RDS, XM satellite radio, and iPod integration.
    Heated leather seats with 2 driver memory.
    Manual tilt & telescoping wheel.

    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2010/acura/tsx/101174005/standard.html
  • gooddeal2gooddeal2 Posts: 749
    Wow...very impress w/ the standard features...I'm surprise that we can find more info. on edmunds than the Acura website.
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