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Mazda5 Changes You'd Like To See

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  • shuedshued Posts: 107
    At Jan 8, I attended the San jose Auto show, and have chance to take a look in Mazda5. I hope that Mazda need to add some small items to Mazda5:
    1): Passenger seat armrest.
    2): Tint window, if you hope customers to think this is a mini-minivan.
    3): Trunk cover when the third row seats are down.
    I also feels that Mazda has a general marketing problem: about the term "Zoom, Zoom". Mazda hope to use "Zoom, Zoom" to give the impression that they have strong engine, but all Mazda engines are at smaller end at the category.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Tint window, if you hope customers to think this is a mini-minivan

    your comment alone would eliminate mazda from tinting the windows...LOL. If you mention the word Mini-van and Mazda5 in the same sentance at mazda HQ, they would throw you out of the building. They are avoiding the mini-van tag on the 5 like the plague. The target buyer is somebody who doesnt want a traditional minivan.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Regardless if the manufacturer calls something an SUV, minivan, crossover, station wagon, etc...the vehicle is what it is. Maybe it's just me, but when I look for a vehicle I just try to find something that meets my needs...whatever it's called. But then I'm not the typical buyer looking for the latest cool thing out there. I look for something that's practical, economical, a level of quality, and safely meets my needs. I do research, test drive, and buy. But I guess the marketing people need to be employed!
  • edf4edf4 Posts: 65
    My recommendation to Mazda to get rid of the "minivan" tag, would be to move the rear door handles to the back of the door, rather than the front where they are now. This is an immediate minivan identifier. Also, given that the actual latch is in rear of the door, this should be easy to do. By making this simple change, the 5 would have the look of a four door wagon, but the benefit, and "trick" of having the doors open as a slider. It would also be the only vehicle with such a feature.
  • rdrrrdrr Posts: 20
    Who cares what its called, I don't. Are we so caught up on an image name, labels etc.
    It is a minivan, minivan, minivan. Just a little something to annoy all you Mazda 5 minivan drivers. Don't get me wrong I think it is a nice vehicle and probably great for young families. So its just a hunk of metal and plastic with 4 wheels and please don't call it your "baby".
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Regardless if the manufacturer calls something an SUV, minivan, crossover, station wagon, etc

    I really don't disagree with you but so many folks are really hung up on names and titles. Call something an SUV and everyone wants one, call it a truck and nobody wants it. The word mini-van causes younger buyers to run away like the building is on fire but call it an All activity vehicle (AAV) and bingo it becomes appealing to younger people. Marketing is an amazing thing.
  • "Who cares what its called..."

    I do. Its nomenclature determines what it gets compared to, and what it gets compared to determines, in part, its success. Readers of this list are MUCH more likely than the average citizen to be aware of available models and their strengths and weaknesses. Hopefully the 5 will appear in comparisons with Caravan (eg Size Comparison)and Odyssey, AND in comparisons with Pacifica and R-Class, AND in comparisons with Jetta Wagon and HHR. That way everyone will be impressed with our farsighted early purchases, and when it comes time to trade in everyone will want a used one.

    Incidentally, State of NJ registers it as a station wagon.

    pagetuner
    http://pagetuner.com/mazda5/
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I think a better comparison would be with a Focus wagon, since the Mazda5 only has 1 more seat. Sort of silly to compare to an Odyssey, Pacifica or R-Class.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Especially when you consider that the Mazda5 is based on the Mazda3 platform. That makes the Mazda5 really the Mazda3 station wagon. That's why I compare it to the Ford Focus wagon. There's the Focus sedan & 5 door, similar to the Mazda3 sedan and 5 door, and then there's the Focus wagon...based on the Focus but longer, like the Mazda5 based on the Mazda3 but longer/taller. Anyway, my take on it.
  • "Sort of silly to compare to an Odyssey, Pacifica or R-Class."

    Depends on what the shopper's wish list starts with. You wouldn't call the Nissan Xterra and Mazda 5 direct competitors, but in 2000 I wanted a big station wagon with a 5-speed and the Xterra was as close as I could get. In 2005 I wanted the same thing and got the 5.

    If the shopper's wish list starts with "occasional seating for 6", the R-class, Pacifica, and Mazda 5 are on the list. Once you've got that list, some people will want to pay $10- to $30-thousand more for a V-6 and some people won't. Doesn't mean the cars shouldn't be compared.

    If the shopper's list starts with sliding doors so the kids don't dimple the other car, the 5 is on that list with the Odyssey. Is the 5 a good "only car" for a family of six? I wouldn't say so. Is the 5 a better value than the Odyssey for a family of three or four looking for a minivan? I think some people would agree it could be.

    pagetuner
    http://pagetuner.com/mazda5/
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    "If the shopper's wish list starts with "occasional seating for 6", the R-class, Pacifica, and Mazda 5 are on the list"

    To me that's like comparing a Mazda 3 or Focus to a big Lexus, Ford 500 or Camry just because they all seat 5. There's a class difference because of space and luxury even though they all seat 5, and the same with the Mazda 5. I doubt if the guying buying a big Mercedes is going to suddenly say, hey, I'll just buy the cheapest Kia because it also seats 5 people. Just like I doubt if people buying an R-class would even consider the Mazda5.

    And maybe it's just me, but I doubt if anyone's shopping list starts with looking for a vehicle iwth sliding doors ;)

    I like the Mazda5 as a the six seater version (station wagon version with sliding doors) of the small, economical Mazda3.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Also, on your webpage you compare the Mazda5 to the Grand Caravan. Again, I like the Mazda5, but to compare it to these bigger minivans might cause people to feel disappointed on the interior specs if they think that the two vehicles are in the same class just because they have sliding doors and three rows:

    Mazda 5 vs Grand Caravan
    Front legroom 1,034mm (40.7") 1,031mm (40.6")
    Rear legroom 894mm (35.2") 991mm (39.0")
    3rd row legroom 780mm (30.7") 988mm (38.9")

    Front hiproom 1,344mm (52.9") 1,453mm (57.2")
    Rear hiproom 1,481mm (58.3") 1,717mm (67.6")
    3rd row hiproom 1,039mm (40.9") 1,245mm (49.0")

    Front shoulder room 1,410mm (55.5") 1,598mm (62.9")
    Rear shoulder room 1,412mm (55.6") 1,643mm (64.7")
    3rd row shoulder room 1,250mm (49.2") 1,577mm (62.1")

    Maximum cargo volume 1,257L (44.4 cu.ft.) 4,754L (167.9 cu.ft.)

    The Mazda5 is a great vehicle, just in a different class than a full size minivan. Again, it's a great Econ car with an extra seat.
  • Don't be so sure about the R class vs. the Mazda5. My wife has an E320, and I nearly bought the R class. But I decided for the Mazda instead...

    Also don't be so sure on the sliding doors. I did not set out to buy a car with sliding doors, but it is what sold me on the Mazda. Plus, I liked the 4 year warranty and the timing chain instead of a timing belt.

    But then again, I might be a bit more quirky than the typical buyer...

    :) :surprise: :D :P
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    You're right. And I'm sure some potential Rolls Royce owners opt for the Corolla ;)
  • shuedshued Posts: 107
    Ok, for my previous message, if we foget what the mazda5 is called, Do you guys agree that Mazda needs to add that three small items? or you dont care?
  • Cover for the luggage area is available as an accessory; get the salesman to throw it in as a deal-sweetener. Tinted windows are available aftermarket; be grateful you get to choose your own percentage. If Mazda did it it would probably be too dark or too light for you. Passenger arm rest would be nice, you're right. Maybe next model year.

    And on your zoom-zoom issue, notice it is called zoom-zoom, not vroom-vroom. I was just noticing today how crisp and flat the cornering is. I would call the acceleration adequate, the braking good, and the handling very good.

    pagetuner
    http://pagetuner.com/mazda5/
  • twaintwain Posts: 185
    Despite the stigma associated with minivans, minivan sliding doors are the most practical on the planet. Moving the handle to the rear would only make them less practical. The sliding doors are the main feature that sets the 5 apart from other vehicles like the Focus wagon, the Matrix and the PT Cruiser. Many people are tired of "minivans" getting bigger and fatter and Mazda came to the rescue with the 5.

    About the seats...no, I wouldn't feel too safe sitting in those back seats. But I also think 3 across seating in a small vehicle is ridiculous. 2+2 or 2+2+2 is the way to go. Fold down those back seats for more cargo or only use them on rare occasions. I don't think a family of six should buy a Mazda5.
  • rlyonrlyon Posts: 57
    I don't own a 5 yet, maybe in 2-3 weeks. But fromr esearch I'd pay for and/or wish the 5 had-

    *) IPOD CONNECTIVITY!!!!
    1) variable wipers
    2) DTR lights with auto off/on
    3) struts on the hood (IIRC the one I saw had the old stick for support)
    4) leather
    5) bose, infinity, JBL, something not stock for the audio, and 2 more speakers in the back
    6) lights on the door buttons for night time visibility ( more design related)
    7) power slide doors
    8) euro roof rack
    9) euro trays on the rear of front seats
    10) bumper step plate should be standard

    I think that's all I would want over the touring with NAV with Sirius and cargo cover.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    I would like to see:

    1) heated front seats
    2) leather seats
    3) iPod connectivity
    4) intermittant wipers
    5) 5 speed auto
    6) a different red than cardinal
  • andmoonandmoon Posts: 320
    diesel or 2.3 turbo from the 6.
    middle temp./foldout seat for 2nd row.
    armrests
    heated seats
    leather
    awd?
    tow hitch (I need for bike carrier)
    rear vents and a/c boost
    Then I'll trade in my wrx wagon :)
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