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2007 Outbacks

mikeorbmikeorb Posts: 4
edited March 6 in Subaru
My dealer has some hidden away at a remote lot. I saw a new color: dark grey. And the MP3/AUX input in the armrest. The "wood" inlay was also now glossy (like it was under plastic), and I did not like this. He also mentioned XM radio (not sure if all models or just some). He did not have any brochures yet.
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  • bobdeebobdee Posts: 9
    Check out this page for information on 2007 Outbacks. It has the details about XM, colors, etc.

    Cars101
  • krccrkkrccrk Posts: 36
    2007 Edmunds info now available:

    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2007/subaru/outback/index.html

    No more XT non-Limiteds. Sigh. Think I'll just keep my current car another year.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    Also note on this site is the new low-priced Outback basic, with Forester X steel wheels. There are pixs and content info here.

    Bob
  • Hello I have recently purchased a 07 outback ltd. I am interested in buying the amp/subwoofer that mounts under the drivers seat. I was hoping someone would be able to tell me how hard it would be to install myself. And also are there any additional parts needed besides the amp/subwoofer.
    Does anyone out there have the amp/sub in there outback? Would you consider it a good option?
    Any help with this would be greatly appreciated

    Thanks
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    I got the sub, and the tweeter package, which really do make a BIG difference. For the $100 install, I would have the dealer do it.
  • Hi. It's a little confusing decyphering all the AWD's Subaru is offering these days.

    My question is; Is AWD in the Outback a reactive, or proactive design?

    By reactive (which is Haldex's design, used by Volvo, VW, Ford, Audi, GM, etc.), I mean the AWD doesn't kick in unless the front wheels slip, at which point the AWD turns on.

    By proactive, I mean the AWD is always working.
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    the Subaru AWD is always working. Non-VTD AT systems are biases 80/20 (or 90/10 depending on the year and source) front to rear. MT's are 50/50 biased. VTD systems are biased 45/55 front to rear. All systems can send power to the wheels that grip, better so on those with the limited slip rear differential. Sensors in the AT's also help it proactively shift traction.

    http://www.subaru.com/sub/misc/coretech/index.html

    -Brian
  • nickelnickel Posts: 147
    I thought that my 06 OB 2.5i AT ys 90/10. Never heard of 80/20. I also believed that when you engage 1st and 2nd gears the traction becames 50/50. Can you correct me?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Was only in the pre-97 ATs IIRC.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    They claimed 90/10 in the brochures and stuff, but we asked Patti to talk to her techies and they were the ones that told us it was more like 80/20.

    Any how, that's only the default power split, it actually adjust the minute you hit the gas, before there is any slip.

    They key difference for a Subaru AWD system is that *ALL* of them are engineered for full-time use, i.e. they don't overheat or disengage above 29mph like certain Rotary Blade Coupling-based AWD systems do.

    *cough* Honda *cough*

    -juice
  • Thnx for info on the AWD...glad to hear it is proactive.

    One oddity I find when pursuing Consumers Union reliability records... on their charts, most Subarus show way below average engine reliability after about 3-4 years.

    Is this due to the timing belt? I have read on other Subaru forums that timing belts need to be replaced around 100K miles, or they will break and "lunch" the motor.
    True? False?

    FYI, my old '83 Camry, with fiberglass timing belts, had two replacements (and broke one anway - engine survived it). Not fun. :sick:
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    "...on their charts, most Subaru's show way below average engine reliability after about 3-4 years."

    Some? All? The charts I have always seen from CU rank Subaru near the top in dependability. What have you been looking at, specifically?

    Timing belts need to be replaced on all vehicles, and I do it way before 100K.
  • Good to know more about timing belts, thanks! Current engine is a somewhat updated pushrod.

    Yes, Subarus do well in general, but their engine "major reliability" catagory does not do as well as other brands like Toyota, Honda, etc,
    More worrysome is the drive system on Forester and Impreza goes way below average after about 3 years. Legacy seems to do much better by comparison.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,267
    Might be the head gasket reliability. Truly a major concern for 1996 through 2000.... up to 2002. One member here had a problem with his gaskets on a 2003. Really not time or mileage dependent, though. Mostly just luck of the draw! :cry:
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Not sure about reliability but my 2 race cars both held up well.

    The 1996 Impreza I started racing at 120k miles and put on about 10-20k track miles and no issues.

    The 1994 Legacy Turbo I got at 100k, it now has 150k, and I put on about 10-15k track miles and no motor issues.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    CR's records note drops in reliability for models affected by the head gaskets leaks, though we should note that Subaru covered those for 100k miles if you used a conditioner for the coolant that they put in free of charge.

    Besides that, wheel bearings on Imprezas before 2002, and Forester before 2003, were a known issue.

    What else? Not much, really. Those were the 2 biggest issues and they're resolved.

    Last year's CR Auto Issue had Subaru as the most reliable brand period for MY2004. In this year's issue, all Subaru models scored better than any single Acura model.

    Not bad, but nobody's perfect.

    -juice
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,267
    though we should note that Subaru covered those for 100k miles if you used a conditioner for the coolant that they put in free of charge. Only 99-02, by VIN (so some vehicles were not covered), but no coverage for 96-98, and those were certainly problematic years.

    Overall good cars though. My opinion of mine continues to shift toward the fonder side of the spectrum the longer I own it. Had I not been flat broke in Oct of 2000, I would have sold it then and never looked back. As it is, it's been fun! :P
  • nickelnickel Posts: 147
    Any idea how many (or %) of Outbacks and Legacys (XTs) come with a manual transmission?
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,657
    On 12/21 SOA announced that there would be a 2.5i Outback LL Bean wagon and a 2.5i Outback LL Bean Limited wagon added with standard NAVI.

    http://www.cars101.com/subaru/outback/outback2007.html#overview

    Vehicles should be at dealers in late January.

    Bob
  • The Outback/Legacy head gasket problem appears to be far more widespread than Subaru is willing to admit. My former 2003 Outback needed a gasket replacement at 28K miles. She had Subaru approved coolant from the start, therefore, it was not a coolant problem as Subaru often states. Even after a gasket was replaced, I could hear a sound of gushing coolant upon engine start-up. Obviously, the new gasket was also leaking air somewhere. In addition to a gasket problem, a transmission had started to slip at 32K miles. One could hardly call such vehicle as a reliable.
    There is also a rumor circulating on the net that the much higher mechanical reliability ratings for the 2005+ Outback/Legacy had been linked to the fact that the Indiana plant had switched to using the Boxer engines manufactured in Japan, instead of getting them from the localUS Supplier.

    Cheers,

    Matroskin
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