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MAZDA3: Official 2007 U.S. Info

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  • kronogoosekronogoose Posts: 116
    It was interesting to compare the EPA MPG estimate for the MS3 and MS6...the MS3 is rated at 20 city/28 hwy and the MS6 at 19/25. I guess the lower weight and torque management on the MS3 really do make a difference.

    Greg
  • mpg60mpg60 Posts: 71
    Hi,

    The link is there. I am in Atl GA.. It is too the left under the wildchild link in the black and white section under shopping tools. I may have spoken to early though on the HP. The main wildchild page states 263. But I am not sure why they don't translate that to the summary on the build your own link. When you get to the end for viewing the summary of what you just built it states 274hp. They are messing with us. I know it.
  • mpg60mpg60 Posts: 71
    MAZDASPEED3 Grand Touring Model

    Destination Fee $595

    274-hp 2.3L DOHC 16-valve inline 4-cylinder Standard

    Front-Wheel Drive Standard

    6-Spd Manual $23,955 Standard

    $595

    Standard

    Standard

    Standard
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    The MS3 has 263bhp, not 274bhp.
  • dc_driverdc_driver Posts: 712
    I think he is pulling that info directly from Mazda.. Maybe they need to update their website if they are wrong..
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I have read the Mazda site, I did not see what he saw. Maybe i will comb through it again...
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "I have read the Mazda site, I did not see what he saw. Maybe i will comb through it again..."

    I found it.

    Kinda funny (but I'll bet it's a glitch).

    Go to the Mazdaspeed3 'wild child' page.

    On the left hand side (under shopping tools) select "Build a Mazdaspeed3".

    Select the trim (sport or Grand Touring), color, and then options until you get to the last page ("Summary").

    On the left hand side you'll see "print window sticker". Select that.

    A little window pops up with 'your' Mazdaspeed3 window sticker showing trim/colors/yada yada yada.

    ON THAT WINDOW STICKER, under "engine" it says "274hp"

    It also lists the mileage as 20/26 on that 'window sticker' which doesn't agree with the 20/28 number listed elsewhere. I think all that was found was a typo. BFD.

    Like it really REALLY matters whether it is 'rated' at 274hp or 263hp. It is what it is. I don't know too many people saying "gee, I'd buy one if it only had 274hp instead of 263hp".
  • "Like it really REALLY matters whether it is 'rated' at 274hp or 263hp. It is what it is. I don't know too many people saying "gee, I'd buy one if it only had 274hp instead of 263hp".

    I totally agree with you, but Mazda has misstated HP numbers in the past and got a black eye for it.

    Personally, I would take either HP numbers in my Mazda3...
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "I totally agree with you, but Mazda has misstated HP numbers in the past and got a black eye for it."

    Then perhaps they should rate it conservatively and not get into a numbers game.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    The current Car and Driver has driven the Mazdaspeed3 to a speedy 5.3 0-60 time! So much for all that talk about the car doing 6.0 0-60!
  • Just FYI: I sent a complaint through the website yesterday and they responded early afternoon. They said the correction would happen ASAP.
    Since it has not happened yet, I guess it will occur next week.
  • I found it pretty odd that neither trim of the MS3 offers a sunroof as an option? What's up with that?
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Possibly because the frame has been stiffened for better handling, making it not possible for a moon roof.

    The early WRX's never had a moon roof either, for that reason.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    I can think of a few more reasons:

    First, no sunroof keeps the weight and cost down. (and the added weight is at an awkward location).

    Second, fewer options (you'll notice virtually NO factory options outside of NAV in the Grand Touring model) means simplified assembly line.

    Third, Mazda probably figures (correctly) that initial demand means they'll have no problem selling every unit they make, regardless of whether or not it has a sunroof. If they were trying to unload 25k units, yeah, a sunroof would probably need to be an option. But they're only looking to sell 5k units for the '07 MY. I would not be surprised to see the sunroof appear as an option next year (assuming the Speed3 comes back for '08).

    IOWs, if you don't buy a Speed3 due to a lack of a sunroof, there's probably 3 guys in line right behind you who don't give a rip.
  • Got the 2007 GT auto hatchback in white over the weekend in the San Francisco Bay Area. The dealer experience was bizarre but enjoying the car none the less. Trying to break it in slowly - already have over 400 miles. Fun car for sure!
  • Excellent! Just to confirm, you bought a Mazdaspeed3 and not a Mazda3? I haven't seen any MS3 even close to coming in the southeast.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "Just to confirm, you bought a Mazdaspeed3 and not a Mazda3?"

    Speed3's haven't been released in the US yet. And white isn't even a Speed3 option (they'll only be available in red, black, silver, and something called 'cosmic blue').

    GT is simply a Grand Touring. It is available on the regular Mazda3. And Speed3's won't be available with automatics.
  • Saw an '07 5-door in the flesh yesterday, in a parking lot in Foster City (SF Bay Area). It was a case of the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly:

    1) The Good: The color was really nice! Looked like that new Galaxy Gray folks were talking about. Very pretty indeed, though I have my doubts about the new 'True Red' being as good as the old Velocity Red.

    2) The Bad: While the 5-door I saw did still have the (nice!) slat-grill and not the crappy mesh-grill, I'm pretty sure I was looking at a Grand Touring model. And no, it was definitely not a Speed3.
    I definitely get the sinking feeling, from the articles & photos I've seen, that the crappy mesh-grill is going to be forced on the lower trim levels of the 5-door. Which will SUCK.
    Sorry, no other way to say it... slat grill > mesh grill. Which is why the MazdaSpeed 3 has the slat. When I want a chain-link fence on the front of my car, I'll let you know.

    3) The Ugly: The new '07 rims are, in a word, lame. This is such a poor, braindead decision on Mazda's part... the old 5-spoke alloy rims were great, no need to 'fix' something that had such a great, simple, classic sporty look to it.
    The new '07 rims, in real life, just look kitsch and chi-chi and stupid. The five friends I was walking with had much the same reaction. I guess I could see warming up to them eventually and thinking they were almost 'okay', but they are a definite DOWNGRADE from the '06 5-spokers. Confirmed in real life. Thanks Mazda. Not. :sick:

    Do I still want a 3? Well, I guess it depends... how much longer do you think dealers will stock the '06 rims, and how much do you think they'd charge me to swap? As the Brits say, oh bugger.
  • Since when do the Mazda3's get the mesh grill on S models? They have always had mesh grills on the i (available in sedan only in the US). Have I missed something?

    I have seen pictures of a hatch with a mesh grill, but I thought that these were pictures of models for other countries that offer the 2.0 on the hatch.

    Is there any confirmed new that states the US will get mesh on lower level S (2.3L) hatches?
  • If the mesh grill remains confined to the i sedans and non-US 2.0 hatches, I will be VERY happy. :)

    Well, except for the rims, anyway.
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