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Toyota Tacoma Suspension and Steering

tctoytctoy Posts: 1
I am considering buying another tacoma. Must be a double cab, 4x4, automatic, and want the Sport Fabric interior. I drove a short bed offroad version, but did not like the ride compared to some other brand of trucks. The dealer did not have any LB to test drive. Did anyone purhcase the LB or Sport version over the SB Offroad version, due to the ride? Will there be a noticable difference? I realize I can step up to the Tundra.
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  • I'm seriously considering the purchase of an 06 or 07 Taco, Dbl Cab, 4x4 and was wondering if some existing owners of 05 and newer models could weigh in...Thanks in advance for your input.

    I've test driven the Taco 06 Sport TRD (short bed), Off Road TRD (short bed) and standard truck (long bed. I've read the earlier forum that debates which package rode smoothest and it seemed many had different opinions. My experience suggested they all rode on the rough side. Here's my question...for those of you that own this truck and felt it rode rough. Did you get used to it?

    I'll beat some of you to the punch on a potential suggestion, yes, I am in fact a big [non-permissible content removed]. But this [non-permissible content removed] tends to own vehicles for 10 years+ and I'm trying to determine if I can live with the ride. I owned a 1978 Toyota 4x4 and can't seem to remember it riding quite this bumpy, but perhaps I did just get used to it?

    Also, if any of you found any solutions in making your Taco ride smoother I'd be really interested to learn of your discoveries.
  • I was one of the people having a problem with the rough ride on my 4X4 Taco TRD Off Rd Double Cab. Turns out my problem was the tires were never balanced properly out of the factory. All I could do was check the tire pressure and it seemed OK to me. Took it back into the dealership and they fixed this no charge by adding/removing weights on the rims/wheels to balance the tires out...now the ride is UNREAL on highway roads...dare I say as smooth as a car!!! Don't be scared off by the rough ride comments, especially mine, as this was easily fixable. I also recommend using a PSI of 29 on all 4 BFG 265 Off Rd tires even though the door panel says 29 in front and 32 in the back...this is more if you are hauling stuff. The dealer actually recommended making them all the same PSI as well. I guess you could make them all 32 PSI but it would probably be a little stiffer ride...whatever you prefer. Regardless I am getting an average of 20MPG city/highway on a tank of gas and have gotten up to 22MPG on a few occasions.
  • Thanks a million for your response. I can understand how lowering the air pressure in the rear tires could help, I'll give that a try. Did lowering the air pressure in the rear tires make a significant difference for you?

    Here's where I could use some clarity...I'm not sure I understand the relationship with balancing the tires and a bouncy ride. It's not a vibration we were experiencing. Of the 3 trucks drove, mostly on smooth CA Freeways, they all were fine on super flat surfaces, but when we went over a bump of any nature I'd look in the review mirror and see my wife and 2 year old bouncing up and down in the second row seat. Given it's a pickup with lighter weight in the back I realize you are going to get some of this, but the hopping was taking just going over the separation cracks on the freeway. Maybe the lower air pressure could help wiht this?

    Thanks again for your input!
  • I have an “06” Taco with short bed, 4x4, V6, manual transmission, double cab, SR5 #2, and LSD. Prior to this I had a “92” 4x4, V6, manual transmission Toy Truck with extended cab that I drove until this new one. My new one reminds me of big honkin’ car when comparing rides. This thing is way smoother when comparing the two. I’ve driven this new one from OK to MN, then roundtrip from MN to NV. The new truck came with Dunlop AT20 P245/75R16 tires; I ran BF Goodrich All Terrains on my old truck as I used to do a lot more off road driving. I do remember when I lived in San Diego that the expansion joints in the freeways seemed to be set up to cause harmonic dissonance such that if I hit a few in a row above 55mph the truck would really start to rock & roll.
    So I’m not sure what you’re experiencing rough ride wise, but both I and my daughter (in the back seat) are very pleased with the ride of the new Taco. I have both front and back tires inflated to 30psi, for what that is worth.
    Good luck with your search.
  • Did you end up buying the Tacoma Double Cab. I'm interested in the truck, but had the same concerns you did with respect to the ride. If you now own the truck did you get used to the ride? I did test drive the long bed and it did seem to ride a little smoother than the short bed.

    Thanks!
  • I'm just about to buy a new 4x2 double cab `06. I've always had some sort of 4x4 or all wheeler and am wondering if anyone knows how this 4x2 double Taco will handle in snow? I see you've driven it in the midwest so I immediately keyed on you. I'm plan to buy it this afternoon. Hope someone can answer me with a positive. Please be brutally honest! Thanks.
  • This is what a 4 x 4 owner reported about how well the truck does in 2WD in the snow. Hope it helps.

    #7283 of 7360 Re: TRD O/R with 4x2? [] by demoncleaner Aug 30, 2006 (9:59 am)
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    Wow this discussion got people heated.

    I have a 4wd. Its great for those that need it. Its only used for off-road and snow traction. How many miles do you 4wd owners have IN 4wd? seriously. (I have just under 1000 miles in 21 months, I consider that alot)

    Off-road, I'm surprised myself how far I can got without using 4wd. If your not mud bogging Prerunner is a great choice for light off-roading. You still have the clearance.

    Snow, well I have 4wd and will be the first to tell you, its about the tires, not the drivetrain. I run snow tires in winter, and often find myself on packed roads still in 2wd. Braking and cornering are the same, only acclerating espeically up hills and tracking (back end not coming around) are better in 4wd.

    If given the choice of going out in a snowstorm in a prerunner (with LSD rear) and snow tires, or a 4wd with stock tires, I'd take the prerunner.

    In the end if you really don't need 4wd, then your saving $2500 bucks off the price, more maintence, 250 lbs, and gallon of gas every fill-up.

    If I didn't live in a hilly lake-effect snow area, and find myself out before the plows, I'd have a prerunner.
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  • ustazzafustazzaf Posts: 311
    I have an 05 4X4 TRD Off Road. The truck does ride rougher than my Tundra (non TRD) did, but it is a little lighter. put a little weight in it (or add a canopy like I did) and the ride smooths out nicely. I have found that Toyotas are picky about tires though (worked in a tire store for about 20 years). Some tires will just ride like crap on a Toy no matter what. Sears sells Dueler APTs that don't work worth a darn. Yet the Dueller ATs from Firestone are a dream. Also found the BFGs to work well. Wranglers are always a hit.
  • Hey thanks for the great advice. Good to hear there are methods that work. I was planning on getting a canopy eventually.
  • "I have an 05 4X4 TRD Off Road. The truck does ride rougher than my Tundra (non TRD) did, but it is a little lighter. put a little weight in it (or add a canopy like I did) and the ride smooths out nicely."

    What size tires do you have?

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    Marcus
    http://www.TacomaWorld.com
  • Thank you all for your replys. I was pretty nervous about buying the Taco but after I drove the 4x2 double cab long box, there was no turning back. It rides so much better than the 4x4 short box they let me drive in demo.Of course I had to get the TRD off road package too. I bought it and really am quite impressed. As for snow driving, as a kid I used to 'steal' my brother's truck and go out just for the fun of learning how to control it. If it's too bad I'll just get some snows put on like in the good old days. Thanks again!
  • I have a '98 Toyota Tacoma and it vibrates very strongly whenever I shift it into reverse and now whenever I idle. Does anybody have any advice? I'm not sure if this is related, but my brake light comes on and random times, stays on for a bit, and goes off. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
  • dpritchdpritch Posts: 2
    I recently found a leak in the power steering line (not hose) on my 98 Tacoma 4cyl Pre-runner. I am having a hard time finding a replacement as I have searched just about every major on-line parts supplier. Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can find one. I have not checked at my local dealer, but I think that is where I end up. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.
  • dmadigandmadigan Posts: 2
    My 07 Toyota Tacoma did not come with Variable intermittent windshield wipers (this is an option - not standard equipment). Can they be installed now by just purchasing a Variable intermittent windshield wiper control and installing it into the existing wire harness?
  • tmoehntmoehn Posts: 3
    Can a 2006 Tacoma 4WD with TRD Off Road package be raised an inch or two? Will it affect the handling or damage anything?
  • 1bad20061bad2006 Posts: 2
    yes you can i did 3" in front 1" in back still ride the same.
  • tmoehntmoehn Posts: 3
    Thanks 1bad2006. Why did you raise the front 3" and the rear only 1"? How is it accomplished?
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    That's considered a "raise and level" lift. By design, almost all pickups are two inches higher in the rear, so that they are relatively level when fully loaded.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • 1bad20061bad2006 Posts: 2
    way 3" in front 1 " in back because of the 32 " tires i put on it look bad [non-permissible content removed]
  • kj4x4tacokj4x4taco Posts: 2
    I have a 2006 Toyota V6 Tacoma SR5 4x4 Access Cab truck with 43,000 miles on it. The past 3 weeks I have been hearing an engine backfire at 40 to 55 MPH. You can feel the backfire through the floorboard. When it backfires it only does it once or three times in a row. My question is this:

    Is it an engine backfire, a loose motor / transmission mount, or a Torque convert shudder?

    I took my truck to the dealership and they heard the backfire (noise) and they said the computer did not register anything wrong with the motor or transmission. I ask them to talk to the District Toyota Tech Rep. The dealership told me the Toyota Rep had not experienced the problem before and when they (meaning the dealership) diagnose the problem, to tell him the prognoses. The dealership then informed me that if they can not diagnose the problem then they want me to drive the truck until the problem gets worse. I then ask is Toyota going to fix the problem at their expense if it’s a drive train problem. They told me it depends if I am within 60k. My other question is this:

    Is this Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) for Toyota on a problem they can not diagnose? Is this how a company that boast number one in customer service and satisfaction handles a problem?

    Note all service has been done per their guide, none missed. This problem started after the 40K service. Also my speedometer reads 5 mph fast and they said this is normal and within tolerance. Honda fixed the speedometer problems on their cars.
  • dredoggdredogg Posts: 7
    I was also wondering HOW toyota got the #1 spot for satisfaction and manufacture in the US if in fact the QUALITY CONTROL ISSUES are well known and look and see how many forums there are against toyota. I was also given the runaround and LIED to and will never ever consider ever BUYING a toyota EVER AGAIN. I bought a toyota solely on their reputation and I got CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    You're the guy with the "crooked" truck. Sorry to hear of your dissatisfaction. I sold my Toyota van off a few months ago - a nine year old van - that showed signs of old age. It was an O.K. vehicle over those years, except for a few fairly expensive electrical malfunctions, and some brake problems. Apart from that, it was reliable. I've never been a big fan of Toyota products, but the van suited my wife and I at the time when we purchased it new. I can't say that I wouldn't buy a Toyota again, but I believe that their reputation for unsurpassed durability/reliability is a bit of a stretch these days. Perhaps one of the great myths of our time. Believe it or not.
    By the way, what might be your next vehicle?
  • dredoggdredogg Posts: 7
    Believe it or not I was supposed to get a Frontier at first but because of the supposed reputation of toyota I went with the tacoma. I mean it took me eight months to realize I was driving a CROOKED truck, and that was only because one day I let my girlfriend drive my truck and I was in my other truck. I was in front of her and we just happened to be going down a long straight away and I noticed that the truck was swerving. I called her on the cell and told her to stop swerving the truck and she said she wasn't. Then I told her to get in front of me and I COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT I WAS SEEING. It looked liked a vehicle that had been in an accident. Right after that I took it to an alignment shop and the guy said why do you need an alignment check if it is a new truck? I said just do it and when he came back he said has this truck been in an accident? The manager on duty right away said and I quote "I do not want to be involved in this" and I was wondering why he said that but now I know. If toyota would have just gave me another not CROOKED truck I would be a happy toyota owner but they just tried to fix it and said it FALLS INTO SPECS but the truck is still CROOKED so I am S.O.L. and that is toyota for you.
  • mecloughmeclough Posts: 2
    Was wondering if anyone has had any success with rear suspension mods for a 2007 Tacoma 4X4 SB Dbl Cab w/ V6 AT. Have seen add a leafs, air shocks, coil overs, etc. Just want to increase capacity by a little so I don't get "high beam flashers" from oncoming vehicles at night when I'm hauling my Trailer.
    I know it will affect the ride but will sacrifice that for a little less "squat".
    I have the TRD Package w/ gas shocks.
    Absolutely love the Truck, my only beef is wish it had rear discs, oh well - class leader in stopping distance w/o rear discs and w/ ABS, even better than some sports cars w/ 4whl ABS discs!
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