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Pontiac G6 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • jonivjoniv Posts: 5
    Hi Car_man,

    This is my first lease and I'd like to know if its possible to get a bad deal on a lease I guess. I have a 39 month lease with 10k miles per year. I think I was told the lease rate was 6.5% and not negotiable. I have a 2006 G6 GTP convertible. The MSRP was 32,090 but I got supplier price of 30,590 plus the Titanium protection to get to 30,978. There's a $595 GMAC administrative fee (is that standard?). Also my residual seems high maybe? It's $18,576.30. Finally my payments are $491 which seem high from what I'm reading but I didn't put any money down or have a trade in. I only made the first months payment plus license/title. Thoughts? Thanks! :confuse:
  • e2helpere2helper Posts: 1,002
    Nice :) - That is the Service Information Document number.
  • This rocks man! You bought the convertible? I am curious as to why most people are interested in the hardtop, but little is said about the sedan and coupe? Any thoughts :confuse:
  • gmerilligmerilli Posts: 25
    I have had my new 2007 G6 convertible for two weeks now. I like the remote start but I am not sure why they put a 2 start limit in between actually using the key to start the car. I found this out because I was showing the remote start feature to a friend and after two times it refused to start. I thought it was going to go back to the dealer but I read the manual and found the limitation.

    This is my first XM Satelite radio. very nice. I can't believe thouhg that in this high end stereo the CD player does not have MP3 capability. My friend bought a $17,000 Ford fusion and his 6 CD changer had MP3 capability.

    The roof is especially nice although a bit slow. It seems to take about 45 seconds and you have to keep the button pressed the whole time and it is above the windhield. I would suggest putting the button lower or making it truly one touch where you press it once and the roof opens completely.

    One odd problem that I had was I went to get into the car and it was completely dead. I opened the hood and was trying to get the plastic cover off of the battery compartment and I got frustrated and smacked the top of the cover and the car came to life with the alarm system blaring. Took it to the dealer and he said that the neg pole on the battery was stripped and he replaced it.
  • Purchased the 2007 G6 GT Convertible.. took possession at 11pm on a Thursday due to a late negotiations (dealer took forever to get paperwork going and then didn't disclose the financing arrangements until we were signing - BAD BAD, after we discussed what I was willing to work with). We had to re-work the numbers and the extended warranty was removed from the car sale to make the numbers work.

    Due to the service center being closed that night, they told me to come back the following day after work and have the car detailed. I drove back and the service center was closed - all gone for the day. ooook. Was told to come back the following day (saturday).

    I brought the car in Saturday, they had it for 1.5 hours to detail it. I had already taken all the stickers and protective strips off - it was unsightly to drive like that. I put the top up for them to clean the vehicle top to bottom.

    I picked up the car finally cleaned and 3 hours later when to put the top down and it wouldn't go down. It would only open the trunk. I drove it to the dealer on Monday and they indicated that there was a part (a clip?) on order for the vehicle. The order was placed 14 DAYS before I purchased the car. NO mention of that when I bought the car. Worse yet, the part is on backorder. No use of my top down features now until the part makes its way here.

    I've since noticed this past weekend (now 10 days into owning the vehicle) that the driver side door is not sitting flush with the body panel above the handle. Took the car to the dealer yet again and they agreed that it needed to be fixed, in the body shop. They asked to repair it when the car is in for repair on the top.

    My car has almost 1200 miles on it.. I drive 100 RT a day for work. I've had it for 12 days. My warranty will be up in less than 18 months. What else is going to go wrong with this vehicle? Pontiac is involved and the dealer has offered a mere pittance as compensation for this issue. The part for the top should be in sometime in Mid August.

    Happy for my XM radio(had it before in my Murano). Car hesitates when I'd expect it to get up and go. Leather, heated seats, nice. Remote start, nice. Problems with the car from the start? Not so Nice.
  • jonivjoniv Posts: 5
    There definitely seems to be some issues with the car based on what I keep reading. I've had my 2006 GTP Convertible for 11 days now and its been into the shop once already, but thankfully all minor issues.

    I have a new XM receiver on order to be replaced, some of the rubber molding came loose at the base of the rear window and on one of the wings that comes out during opening and closing and some odd cracking noises coming from inside the car.

    After fixing the interior noises, they detected a noise coming from the trunk area but it was too hot for them to ride around in the trunk to listen lol. So when I take it back in for the XM receiver, they will look at the trunk noise. So far no major issues with top going up or down.
  • vagatorvagator Posts: 18
    They had two out front for 24-25K when I bought. I didn't take a close look, just the MSRP price at bottom of sticker. this was a Greenbrier Pontiac on Military Hi-way in Norfolk, VA. They also had a 2006 solace that they were having to sale as used because it had been registered. It only had 77 miles on it. I didn't check deep into the story. The sales person talked about sometimes pontiac execs, etc use them a little. You like a demonstrator. Of course I know that is not the case with this one because those use dealer tags and are not registered as this one had been. My guess is someone bought it and returned it for one reason or another, but can't be sure.
    BTW, I am still loving the G6 convertible.
    :)
  • vagatorvagator Posts: 18
    About the TOP operation, that is my biggest worry also. If you take a look at all the "stuff" by opening the trunk with the top up it looks like so many things to go wrong. So far I have raised and lowered the top maybe 25 times with no problems. I hope it stays that way. I do think it has hesitated from time to time, but never stopped or failed to open/close. :)
  • txn428txn428 Posts: 41
    Hi everyone,

    I am in the market for the G6 Sedan V6 AT and I was wondering what everyone is paying for it in the Bay Area. How much of the price difference for the V6 and the GT model? Is this a good time to purchase this car or should I wait till the year end clearance?

    Thanks in advance for all your inputs. :)
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi joniv. It is definitely possible to get a bad deal on a lease. This does not necessarily mean that you did. If you were able to get your Pontiac G6 Convertible through GM's Supplier Purchase Program, you actually probably got a very good deal on it...at least on its selling price. GMAC's base lease rate on the 2006 G6 Convertible is 4.95%. Make sure that the dealer that you are working with uses this lease rate instead of the 6.5% rate that they quoted you to calculate your car's lease payment and you're all set. GMAC charges an acquisition fee of $595 on every vehicle that it leases and individual dealers do not have the authority to waive this charge. Dealers cannot alter vehicles' residuals either. If your car's residual value is high this is actually a good thing. Sure its lease-end purchase price is higher, but you will have to pay for less depreciation over the life of your lease and your lease payment will be lower.

    I will use GMAC's actual lease program to calculate a lease program on this car so that you can compare what I come up with with what the dealer quoted you. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2006 Pontiac G6 Convertible with an MSRP of $32,090 and a selling price of $30,978 through GMAC right now for 39 months with 10,000 miles per year, its zero down, pre-tax monthly payment should be around $427. As you can see, the lease payment that you were quoted looks slightly high to me, even if it includes sales tax. Part of the difference is probably the higher lease rate that the dealer you are working with is trying to use.

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  • jonivjoniv Posts: 5
    Thank you! Couple more questions...how do I find out what GMAC's base lease rate is so I can show them and does it make a difference between the GT or the GTP trim? Also, since I already signed the paperwork do I have any options to get the 4.95%?
  • Update to this issue.

    -Part was received on August 11 and replaced later that week, along with a realignment/tightening of both doors as the driver side door had started to slip and not remain flush with the body panel. Also had them investigate why the car was shimmying at 55-65 mph with only 1500 miles on it. They fixed the top (it now makes a *boing* sound on the initial release which I need them to look at) and the doors. They balanced/aligned the tires which took care of the shimmy. Also noticed upon tight scrutiny that the front bumper does not line up evenly with the hood of the car(we took possession of the car in the dark, against my better judgement). Have been in contact with GMC about all of this and they are attempting to do right for me. Dealership has felt that paying my first month's car payment is compensation enough for the problems I've had. I'm waiting to see what GMC does as this car just seems to have lots of little things going on with it.
  • >>Congratulations on your new G6! Please also post your experience in Pontiac G6: Prices Paid & Buying Experience.

    OK, I will:

    I picked up my 2007 G6 convertible a few days ago. I decided on a specific color and package combination, with side airbags, and would not waiver from that position. (I really like the two-tone ebony/morocco leather seats -- takes the sportiness up a notch.) This made the search a little more difficult, but my local dealer (Tustin Pontiac) found one at another dealership and did a swap. Other dealerships offered to do the same, but only if I would sign on the dotted line first. I told them no negotiations until the car was sitting in front of me. The car arrived at my dealer two days later. I wasn't in a mood to haggle, so I printed out the pricing information from this site and said I would pay only the "what others have paid" price, which was about $500 above dealer invoice and $500 below MSRP. The dealer agreed. Amazingly, when I went into financing, the dealer had knocked off another $500, calling it a rebate or something. No silly add-ons like alarms, clear-coat, or overpriced chrome wheels. Overall, the most pleasant car buying experience I have ever had.

    There are not that many options for this car, but you may want to print out the option page from this site and understand the interaction between the packages. During my searching, some of the salespeople (not at Tustin Pontiac) provided some misinformation out of confusion. For example, I was told twice that I would need to find a GTP if I wanted the 3.9L engine. In reality, the GT with the sports package includes that engine. Tip for when you are cruising the lots: If the car has two chrome exhaust tips, it has the 3.9L engine. In addition to the larger engine, the sports package adds the StabiliTrak, 18 inch wheels, automatic air conditioning and 6-way power driver seat. I'm 6-2, and my head hits the roof on the passenger's side, but I can move the driver's seat down, which provides ample headroom. Also take a hard look at the premium package (which is required if you get the sports package). That package also gives you the power driver seat, the leather "appointed" seats, remote vehicle starter system, and a mandatory item for me -- XM radio.

    I've only had the car a few days now, but I really love it so far. No problems with the top. Spent most of a day driving up and down the coast, and I took it on the ferry to Balboa Island. It is quite the head-turner, especially when the top is going up or down.
  • You;re welcome, joniv. I am not aware of any source that provides information on manufacturers' current lease programs to the general public. Since you have already signed a contract, it may be difficult for you to get it changed.

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  • gasman1gasman1 Posts: 321
    Purchased a '07 G6 Base in Iowa with some BIG rebate assistance.

    18,540 Base
    650 Destination
    295 Preferred Pkg
    50 Engine block heater
    400 ABS and Traction Control
    900 Sun & Sound Pkg
    20,835 MSRP
    1,000 Discount
    2,000 Rebates (includes $1K Conquest for Toyota trade-in)
    2,305 GM Card Rebate
    15,530 Net Sales Price
    1,835 Trade-in (KBB and Edmunds average was 1,347)
    13,695 Price after trade allowance
    49 Doc Fee
    13,744 NET Purchase Price plus State Tax Title License

    We get it Wednesday. They will trailer it from the Twin-City area. Financed at 5.99% APR for 6o months. :)
  • hey carman how is this deal:

    #1 the msrp is = $22,174

    #2 the selling price for the car is = 19,853 after rebate

    #3 lease rate is 3.3%

    #4 the residual value is $11,742

    #5 the lease term is 36 months

    #6 the annual mileage is 12,000

    its a 2007 g6 gt v6
    the vin # is 1g2zg58n774xxxxxx
  • Hi dxdenis01. General Motors' normal customer cash incentives are not available on leases. It does provide special lease cash incentives on select models though. Right now the only lease cash that is available on the 2007 Pontiac G6 is $750 in GM's Northeast region. If you are in that part of the country you are in luck. If not, you will not be able to take advantage of any cash incentives on your lease. The lease rate that you were quoted for this car is right in line with GMAC's base rate for it. This is always a good thing. The selling price that you were quoted for this car looks very attractive.

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  • easye2easye2 Posts: 26
    I live in the Twin Cities...where did you get it? Did you do an internet quote? Do you have to trade in a car to get the 1K conquest $? Did you happen to know if they had any 06's left? Thanks.
  • gasman1gasman1 Posts: 321
    easye2 --- Sorry for this late reply. I should check more often...

    Bought the G6 through my local dealer in Iowa. They did a dealer trade with a dealer in New Richmond, WI. The rebates I got ended November 15th.
  • fenwahfenwah Posts: 58
    Someone clue me in on this. I submitted a quote request from Edmunds on a 2006 Pontiac G6 GTP. There aren't too many around...maybe 20 or so in my state. Anyway, I submitted an email indicating that I was interested in what their best out the door price on a specific car. Of course, I didn't get the out the door price...but was quoted a price that did not include TTL.

    Anyway, when I go to the Pontiac web site, I find the vehicle that I want with the correct VIN number. It clearly states, Total Vehicle Price of $28,190.00.

    When I go to the gmbuypower web site, the total vehicle price jumps to $29,335 (an increase of $1145). Current offers shows $0.00, then the Net Price shows a total of $28,190.

    The $28,190 is what Edmunds is showing me as well with all the options.

    Okay...so I shoot him another email asking him why the increase of $1145 over MSRP? Here is his response...

    "The MSRP price of $29,335 is the
    total sticker price of the vehicle, including destination charge and all
    local market advertising, which GM has to add to the initial price of
    $28,190. The actual window stickers and invoices reflect this."


    Okay, so what he is saying is that the destination price was not originally in there (but I see it as in there). I am also told that there are local market advertising which GM has to add to the initial price of the $28,190? Huh?? What is this all about?

    The way I see it is this (as is on Edmunds and Pontiac's own web site)

    Standard Vehicle Price for a 06 G6 GTP: $23,065

    Total Options $ 4,500
    (6 speed manual, leather package,
    Onstar, Premium Value Panoramic sunroof,
    side airbags - $500 premium value
    package discount)

    Destination charge $ 625
    --------
    $28,190

    Has anyone encountered a dealership charging you over one thousand dollars for local market advertising? And why in the heck would I have to pay it?

    Any insight into this would be extremely helpful. Thank you!

    By the way, I was quoted a price of $26,150...which is $7 less than invoice on the $28,190 price from Edmunds and Pontiac. And honestly, I really don't think that's a great deal considering how long the 07s have been selling at the dealership. I was hoping for $1k or $2k below invoice.

    I would not qualify for the $1000 cash back since I would be taking the 0% financing instead.
  • I leased my G6 in September of 2005. It has been in for service 15 time in the 15 months I have had it. I have been stranded twice, paint issues, black spot in middle of hood 3 weeks after I got it, clear coat peeling off. The clutch sensor has been replaced 2 times, body control module once, speedometer sensor once. The sunroof has leaked on 3 separate occasions. The car is at the dealers at this time because on 12/12/2006 the clutch went in it. It has been there for over a week with no end in site, because they cannot find a clutch!!! GM refuses to take the car back or even replace it. They have offered me to skip a few car payments and their last offer was an extended 72 month bumper to bumper warranty. If they bothered to read my file, they would know the car is leased for 3 years and already has this warranty!!!! I am at my wits end with them. I am going to file with the Better Business Bureau Autoline to try to get some help. If anyone has had these issues or know anything else I can do, please let me know. I will never buy another GM product again. I thought I bought the car of my dreams, instead it has been a nightmare from the first week I got the car.
  • wow! I was so excited when I found this car. My Volvo convertible's lease is up so I thought this might be a great replacement. Your story is a nightmare.
  • fenwahfenwah Posts: 58
    I received a voice mail from the owner of the dealership. Apparently due to my lack of response, he's now playing...which I don't consider a bad thing whatsoever. My guess is that this car has been sitting on their lot for quite sometime now and they just want to get rid of it. At any rate, they are giving me a 7% discount over the MSRP. I have received a few other responses from dealers offering 9% off the MSRP.

    Here is one that I received today (MSRP was $26,105 inc/dest)...
    Red Tag Discount - $2352
    OTD price w/ 0% financing is $25,253.93
    OTD price w/ $1000 cash back is $24,253.93

    Factor in that I have over $3k on my GM Credit Card earnings and another $1k earnings on a Citibank Drivers Edge card, then that drops the price down to ~$21k (since I plan on taking the 0% financing for 60 months).

    Still haven't made up my mind though...plan on giving the owner a call to see what he says.
  • jack15jack15 Posts: 25
    2007 G6 Convertible
    MSRP 32,250
    Discount 1,439
    Rebates 1,500
    Out the Door 29,311

    Anyone out there care to share gas mileage stories on the 3.9 that comes with this car ?
  • fenwahfenwah Posts: 58
    MSRP - $33,209
    Red tagged at $30,295
  • fenwahfenwah Posts: 58
    When you say out the door, are you adding tax/title/license.
  • jack15jack15 Posts: 25
    Sorry, my bad.
    Tax, Title, License were extra. I guess I meant sale price. I think the best part, was what they gave me for my trade, working lower still from the 29,311 figure.
  • novanova Posts: 135
    I never heard of the city bank card. Is it like the GM card 5% back. Were should I look to get one?. I am a car nut and allways buying new cars. THANKS FROM FL.
  • You asked about gas mileage..

    I do mostly (75%) highway driving, and gas mileage gage sits around 22.5, unless I am doing 100% highway and then it will get 24-24.5MPG.
  • jack15jack15 Posts: 25
    3.5 or 3.9 engine ?
    Auto or manual ?
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