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Buying a Used 3-Series

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,589
    Aim for $5000 off asking price. Assuming both cars are typically optioned 328i BMWs (Premium Pkg, Cold Weather pkg, Metallic Paint, Automatic)... These cars had an MSRP when new of about $40K. The '07 is 3 years old & the '08 is 2 years old. These cars are no spring chickens. Think about how much they gave the poor saps on trade in values or purchased these at a lease end auction. BMWs hold their value better than many cars. But figure they own the '07 for about $20K + the cost of the CPO warranty & maybe $22K - $23K + the CPO warranty for the '08. Let us know how it goes. good luck!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • jwishjwish Posts: 1
    I've got my eye on one of these loaded with premium, nav, etc. No-haggle (i.e. no negotiating?) price of $19,999. Includes a 12/12 Major Guard warranty (GM Protection Plan product). My questions are:
    1. How's the price?
    2. What should I expect in terms of reliability given the mileage? It was a 1-owner corporate car and I don't have the service records. I had it checked out by a independent BMW mechanic and he said it looked good.
    3. Are there so many of these on the market because of leases ending or is there something to be avoided about the 06's being the 1st year of the e90?

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Josh
  • I see that certified cars go through a major inspection in order to qualify as "certified." If so, shouldn't that bring the comfort that would come from knowing the car was well-maintained and allev the need for an indep mechanic?

    I'm loojking at some 2007 335i's with over 30,000 mi, so the warranties (reg and cert'd) will only be another 1-1/2 - 2 yrs.

    Thanks.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,499
    A CPO inspection/certification is only as good as the dealer that performs it. My local BMW dealer is excellent, so I've never sought an additional inspection.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • chewy2chewy2 Posts: 19
    edited February 2010
    I think end-of-lease is the reason so many 2006s are for sale. At least that is what my dentist told me. He just raves about the 2006 he bought last summer. I looked at a 2006 330i with 36k miles being sold by a private individual who claims he has had no problems with the car. But, he warned me about cars coming off lease that had been pretty much abused. His daughter got squelched on a off-lease BMW that turned out to have a severely damaged clutch. I guess she couldn't tell this from a test drive?
  • $25,500 for a BMW certified pre-owned 2007 335i sedan with 6MT. 45k miles.

    Cold weather package, sport package, premium package, moonroof, dynamic cruise control, upgraded radio.

    I think all the other stuff listed (rainsensing washers, tire pressure monitoring, etc) is standard.

    THank you!!!
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,499
    That sounds pretty decent.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,589
    Just make sure to get the service record for the vehicle. A lot of these have problems with HPFP failures (sometimes multiple).

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • Thanks for the posts. This car is being sold at the dealership where it was sold and serviced so I'll be able to see the service records.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,499
    The HPFP now has a 10 year/100K mile warranty. It's really strange; I know some people who have replaced several pumps while others have 2007 cars with the original pump.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • jtlajtla Posts: 375
    Do you mean BMW extends the warranty on HPFP for cars sold since 2007 because there have been so problem reported, or the 10 yr/100K mi just for the new ones (2010's)?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,877
    Not so strange really---if we look at the history of these kinds of defects throughout all cars, we see a failure rate, if it were disastrous, of what...10-15%?

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,499
    Do you mean BMW extends the warranty on HPFP for cars sold since 2007 because there have been so problem reported...

    Yes.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Hi all,

    I am looking to purchase a 2007 CPO 3-Series (328i). My options are a manual transmission with 50K miles at $22,500. Or an automatic transmission with 22K at $26,500. I test drove the cars and had no issues, but in reading all the reviews on certain websites many of them are pretty negative. The main issue being the run flat tires. Is this that a huge deal? I don't want to purchase the car and have to replace the tires a month later or have to do it regularly.

    Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,499
    Just switch over to regular tires; buy an M Mobility Kit or similar and you're good to go. I'd also buy the stick, but that's just me...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Hi all,

    Considering the buyout option on my 2007 335i (premium, cold weather, sport, navigation... MSRP was $50.7k) as my lease is coming due at the end of April. Quick questions (apologies in advance for leaving out critical information/asking too broad of questions/committing forum etiquette faux pas)

    1) BMW lists my buyout $31k. I'm looking to get $29k with CPO extension. Is that doable?
    2) With 45k miles on the car, it would make sense to get the CPO extension, right?
    3) Any other tips on navigating the buyout experience?

    Thanks.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,589
    I would get the CPO warranty. Has your 335i experienced the HPFP problem. Has yours been replaced? I'm thinking you can get the car for cheaper than $29K.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • Hi- I've got a deposit down on a 2008 328i with the sport package and I did not realize that it came with summer tires. I live in St. Louis, which can get some snowfall. If I don't want to mess with changing tires in the winter, do I need to back out of this deal? Are there run-flat all-season tires for this car that I could pick up at some point? I love the car, but I'm not enough of an enthusiast to deal with having multiple sets of tires.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    As far as I know, there are no matched sets of All-Season RFTs that you can buy in the same size as the OEM Summer RFTs, that said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Why? Most folks with an opinion on the tires deeply dislike the RFTs, and in many-many cases they buy a "Spare Tire in a Can" kit and switch their tires to GFTs (Gets Flat Tires). By doing the switch you A) open up the option of buying a matched set of All-Season tires (which typically last twice or more as long as Summer tires), B) will improve both the ride and handling of your car, and C) save yourself a bunch of money every time you have to buy tires.

    Keep in mind that many dealerships are seriously misinformed regarding the use of GFTs, misinformed to the point that they'll tell you that such a switch will void your warranty and/or that you'll need to make expensive suspension modifications. I say misinformed as a means of giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I suspect the truth of the matter is that they are deliberately lying as a means of protecting their lucrative RFT replacement business. If your dealership feeds you such bilge and you feel in the mood to mess with them a bit, ask them to put their words in writing and to cite specific corporate BMW documentation as proof of their claims. They'll most likely decline.

    As for tires themselves, were it that I was in your shoes and tire shopping, I'd be taking a hard look at the following two tire sets:
    - Continental ExtremeContact DWS (set of four for $488 from TireRack.com)
    - Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus (set of four for $700 from TireRack.com)

    FWIW, I'm currently running a set of the Michelins and other than the fact that they're a bit noisy in the 35 to 45 mph range, I have nothing but good things to say about them, and given that I live in New Hampshire, they've seen more than their share of snow. ;)

    Best regards,
    Shipo
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,499
    In addition to Shipo's excellent suggestions, I'd consider the Pirelli PZero Nero all-season. They have worked out really well on my X3 and Mazdaspeed 3.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • adagadag Posts: 5
    I have an offer for a 2007 328i CPO with an option to finance $17K with 1.9% for 36 months OR 5.9% for 36 months if I choose the Extended Maintenance Plan. The delta in the two financing costs is $1000. Any thoughts on which is a better option for 2 years extension (maintenance plan or lower financing)?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,733
    I think the MSRP on the maintenance plan is either $1395 or $1495.. I also think your calculations are correct...

    If it were me, I'd take the maintenance plan and the higher rate... But, I'd also shop around, and see if my local bank or credit union could beat that 5.9% rate on a used car.. Then, re-finance the car after 60 days.... Might be able to save part of that $1000, over the life of the loan.

    My thinking is: You are going to the dealer for warranty work, anyway... Sometimes it's hard to separate what is maintenance and what is repair.... If you have the maintenance plan, you won't have to worry about it.

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • If I buy a 07 bmw from a pravite owner with 40K miles on it. I know it does not out of warranty. can I enjoy rest of warranty? Thanks for your answer.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,877
    You'd best check with a dealer to see what warranty it has, if you want to be completely sure.

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  • Thanks a lot for your fast comments. I ended up backing out of the deal, mostly because of the tires, but also because the carfax was not clean and it kept nagging at me. I also found a large (1 in.) chip out of the inside front edge of the rear passenger door and some rust on the hinge.

    Turns out it was a great decision. Later that day I went to look at a 2007 CPO 328i that did not have the sport package, but it did have premium, xenon heads, heated seats, and leather. It was originally way more expensive than the 2008, but they just dropped the price that day to be only $300 more, and so I decided to trade the sport package for the CPO warranty. I also got an extra $500 for my trade, meaning that I ended up paying less for the 2007 with a clean record, and I got an exterior and interior color that I liked better. So...glad I listened to my gut.

    Plus, I have to say that my experience at the BMW dealership was so much better than the used car lot (volvo dealer- they knew very little about the car) that I found the other car on.
  • mjd02mjd02 Posts: 1
    edited March 2010
    I'm buying a CP BMW 328i Coupe with 14k miles, my maintenance warranty is valid thru 12/2010 and the extended warranty thru 12/2012.

    I usually only put 6k miles on a year.

    Do I need the extended maintenance warranty for $2000?

    Do I need the road hazard tire warranty for $1400 for 5 years?

    :confuse:
  • I'm trying to buy a 2007 328xi CPO at 27k miles. Carfax is clean, but the dealer had a disclosure saying that the front bumper was replaced/refinished. Does this mean the car was in an accident? is it safe to buy this?.
    Cars seems fine when test drove and looks super clean.Plzz help
  • srs_49srs_49 Posts: 1,394
    All accidents don't show up on a Carfax report. If you're concerned that it might have been more than just some bumper damage, have a good body/frame shop look it over.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,877
    I agree. Do NOT rely on CARFAX as an absolute verification of being accident-free. However, front bumper repairs are very common on modern cars.

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  • ykangykang Posts: 88
    I just bought 2007 328i CPO and am shopping around for maintenance plan. I have never seen the price you mentioned. Where can I find the price you mentioned? I live in southern CA. Thanks. :)
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