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Toyota Camry Hybrid Driving Tips & Tricks

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  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    Well, isn't that extra special.... :P

    No one is talking about "wear" but about catastrophic tire failure.

    Like I said, those of you doing that, will never be convinced by scientific or legal fact, and will continue to do so up until you actually cause injury to your loved ones, or are denied coverage by your insurance company. Or both. I have read literally thousands of such cases.

    I hardly think your savings of one or two miles per gallon (What is that anyway? 10 Cents?)is worth the risk of someone I love being severely injured, or being exposed to millions in liability, when insurance company refuses to pay. But thats just me. ;)
  • larsblarsb Posts: 8,204
    That's just it - it's all unfounded paranoia.

    Where, exactly, have you read about "thousands of cases" in which tires inflated to Max PSI causing deaths and/or insurance coverage being denied? I'd like to see that data.
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    Even if people bother reading the data, (by searching Google or the Insurance Industry Association) they would find an argument against the it, because they believe what they believe, and will justify anything. Period.

    I am not going to be baited into another long-drawn out so-called "discussion" about something so widely reported in the news media over the past twenty years. It has been the subject of several "news magazine" show reports on TV, and widely covered in the auto- trade magazines. During the big Firestone/SUV deal, it was drummed constantly what a danger it was, at least weekly, for over a year.

    If someone "claims" not to know of the dangers of disregarding the auto manufacturers safety guidelines, they must live in a cave somewhere, or be in denial....
  • larsblarsb Posts: 8,204
    "tires overinflation lawsuit" landed me a big 81 hits on Google.

    So, as a TCH owner and a previous HCH owner, here's a tip: Do research yourself before adjusting your tire PSI. Don't listen to me telling you not to worry about overinflation and don't listen to those who say overinflation is nothing short of a crime. Do your own research.
  • larsblarsb Posts: 8,204
    The Firestone/SUV thing was caused by faulty tires. Not overinflation. If anything, Underinflation was the main contributor to those Ford Exploder/Firestone issues.

    Anyway, moving on...... :shades:
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    Quit with your baiting, larsb.

    Anyone reading what I posted, not trying to argue, would realize I was saying it was brought up in addition to the manufacturing defects involved in that case. It was argued in many instances, and proven so, that some of the failures were do to over-inflation.

    Please stop trying to end discussion and just argue and nit pick. It is not productive to these forums, and drives people off.

    Please show all of us something from a tire or automobile manufacturer that says it is okay, that it is safe, to exceed the automobile manufacturers recommended inflation.
  • larsblarsb Posts: 8,204
    I already said I am moving on.......

    Back to TCH driving tips:

    I frequently use 34 MPH as a "sweet spot" to get good MPG when the engine is still cold.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,854
    I'll be creating a TCH Tires/Wheels discussion here, which is where you'll be able to discuss tires for the Camry to your heart's content.

    I've moved the posts that spun off into tires and used them and the starter for the Toyota Camry Hybrid Tire/Wheel Questions discussion.

    Please remember what the topics are supposed to be about when things start to wander. Thanks!

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  • Maybe I missed it but is there a way to disable the amber passenger air bag on symbol that appears when someone is sitting in the passenger seat. I assume its there to remind you that kids shouldn't sit there, but its pretty annoying as its right in your field of vision and never turns off.
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    No.

    I suggest ignoring it.
  • wvgasguywvgasguy Posts: 1,405
    It would have been nice for it to light up when it was off rather than on.
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    Write Congress. :P
  • plknjplknj Posts: 121
    Since reading an old posting I started down shifting to 'B' when coming to a stop and when taking turns. It works great and seems to save both gas and my brakes. Just curious if anyone else is doing this?
  • wvgasguywvgasguy Posts: 1,405
    I started down shifting to 'B' when coming to a stop and when taking turns. It works great and seems to save both gas and my brakes

    I'm still not sure the "B" mode works as well (if at all) at charging the battery as compared to using the brake petal. I've not seen a definitive explaination on that.

    I'm not sure how you can assume it's saving on your brakes? My understanding is that using the brakes at any speed over 12 mph, except in emergency stopping, is using the torque on the motor to charge the batteries and NOT using your hydraulic brakes. Under 12 mph, I doubt that B would help much anyway and you'd have to start using your pedal to stop.
  • camygcamyg Posts: 11
    My experience is that B uses more gas. If you are coasting down with the ICE off at any speed between approximately 12 mph and 42 mph and you shift to B, it will start the ICE. If the ICE is running, it's using gas. Anticipating your stops when possible and coast, then lightly using the brake pedal has given me the best results. When I had 6000 miles on my car, I could still easily see the factory milling marks on my brake discs, so the hydraulic brakes aren't being used much.
    Also, I have found that reasonably moderate acceleration is better than hard acceleration that some advocate. At approximately 35, 45, and 55 mph, I can let off slightly on the gas pedal and get the transmission to slip into a lower ratio and see the effect by an increase of 5 to 10 mpg on the analog comsumption gauge. If I then press down slightly on the accelerator, mph drops some, but is still well above original. Daytime temp is now averaging about 60 here and I am back up to about 40 - 42 mpg average for a tank full of gas.
  • wvgasguywvgasguy Posts: 1,405
    I can let off slightly on the gas pedal and get the transmission to slip into a lower ratio and see the effect by an increase of 5 to 10 mpg on the analog comsumption gauge.

    I think you're simply seeing the engine going to idle, not the transmission going to a different "ratio". The "transmission" or power splitting device in the TCH works similar to a CVT transmission.
  • plknjplknj Posts: 121
    Thanks... I wasn't sure what the effect of it all was.
  • wvgasguywvgasguy Posts: 1,405
    It's weird when you "rev" the engine and hear it winding up. I'm not used to driving a 4cyl and it is pretty noisy. However unless I'm really goosing it I don't even notice the engine noise. However it is like that Honda (I believe) commercial where the guy makes the shifting noise while his girl is beside him. It's smooth reving but a little noisy. No jerks or downshifts, just smooth acceleration.

    I'm guessing with some of the new 7 speed auto-tranny's you will eventually get to where they will shift so smoothly that they will almost seem like a CVT .
  • camygcamyg Posts: 11
    I think you're simply seeing the engine going to idle, not the transmission going to a different "ratio". The "transmission" or power splitting device in the TCH works similar to a CVT transmission.

    Sorry, but I disagree. A CVT transmission still has a varying ratio from power in to power out. The power split device just controls that ratio.
    I also said that I reapply acceleration to get back to about the same accelaration rate as before but the indicated mpg is higher. I have been testing this the middle of last summer and have seen an apparent increase using this method. My current tank average is 42.8 mpg and it's not even that warm yet.
    Like you seem to be, I am very tech oriented. I have read the manuals, including the Body Electrical and related info from Toyota. I understand how this system is supposed to work.
  • wvgasguywvgasguy Posts: 1,405
    The power split device just controls that ratio.

    My bad, that's not the way I understood the PSD. Most CVT's (I think) have bands or chains that in effect do change the ratios without actually "shifting"ike a conventional transmission. However the PSD is not a CVT transmission. My understanding of the PSD did not include any information showing that there is a change of "ratios" possible.

    I'm not automotive "techie" so I struggle to totally understand all this.

    http://www.hybridsynergydrive.com/en/power_split_device.html

    This site shows the schematic of the PSD (as well as other techie stuff) and it simply appeared to me that you have a sun and planatary gear connected by the pinion gears. It doesn't show any ratios other than 1. Perhaps this was simply an oversimplified explaination
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