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Honda Fit Transmission Questions

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  • navionnavion Posts: 1
    I think that Honda is missing the boat by not offering the marvelous and proven CVT transmission in the US market. Also it would be nice to have the cruise control option without having to go to the sport model which does not appeal to me as I am more interested in practicality.
  • i absolutely agree. i am really excited about the car but don't particularly want any of the "extras" EXCEPT the cruise control, which, in my mind, is a must. is there an after-market cruise control solution?
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I would have to disagree on the CVT. Having lived with a Mini with the CVT, the jury's still out on its efficiency merits, and I think CVT has issues with low-speed drivability. Maybe it is a better partner for a high-power, high-torque engine...
  • honda411honda411 Posts: 2
    There absolutely is an aftermarket solution. Most dealers have companies that come in and do custom leather and sunroof installs. These same companies can offer a cruise system by Audiovox which works well. Installed price listed for a little under $280. American Radio is who I recommend in the Atlanta area.
  • The Fit has plenty of power for me. I drive a 250 hp oddy and the fit gets off the line and up to speed with much less drama. The AT is better than the 5AT on the van, and seems to spin the motor just a little faster at 60.

    My brother in law, tries out the paddle shifters. I guess he doesn't really understand the concept of shifting. He grabs at the downshift, drops it down to first doing 45mph, I think the motor spun about 4-5K, didn't even put up a fuss, couldn't hardly hear it.
  • raychuang00raychuang00 Posts: 541
    The AT is better than the 5AT on the van, and seems to spin the motor just a little faster at 60.

    I think that's because 5AT on the Fit is very closely related to the 5AT unit on the 2006 Civic, one that has torque converter lockup at all gears; that feature is not commonly found in automatic tranmisssions from European cars! :surprise:
  • cecirdrcecirdr Posts: 9
    Could you explain what torque converter lockup is? I was wanting the manual transmission, but am now second guessing since it runs at higher rpms at interstate speeds. I need to do a good bit of highway miles and want a quieter ride. Plus...if it's revving higher than the auto, how does it get better gas mileage on the highway?

    Thanks.
  • claudius753claudius753 Posts: 138
    Automatic transmissions are different from manuals in that on a manual transmission, when you let out the clutch, the engine and transmission are directly linked.

    http://auto.howstuffworks.com/torque-converter.htm will help you understand how a torque converter works.

    Why would a manual get better mileage on the highway? It gets better on the highway by EPA measure. On a long trip at a constant speed where the auto stays in lock up condition, and thus lower RPM, the auto probably would actually get better mileage. The accelerating and decelerating in the EPA test probably result in the manual being slightly higher.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    You said in part:

    My brother in law, tries out the paddle shifters. I guess he doesn't really understand the concept of shifting. He grabs at the downshift, drops it down to first doing 45mph,

    This is why I recommended trying to get a Fit with fewer than 10 miles on it (you are the first driver) (not a hard thing to do since they are flying off the lots). Unlike, say, a Buick Lucerne, Fit test drivers are aggressive in their test drives.
  • Bought the Fit (Sport Automatic) the day it came out. Great car. The only thing I've noticed is that when I let off the throttle the car seems to deaccelerate quickly as if the engine were acting as a brake (something I would associate with a manual transmission). Is this normal? Is it related to the Drive by Wire or Direct Control system? Just wondering if others have noticed.
  • jonniedeejonniedee Posts: 111
    I'll bet you're not use to the "lock-up" torque convertor yet...
  • hondaman25hondaman25 Posts: 9
    Yes I've noticed the deacceleration when letting off the throttle. my opinion is it's a 5 speed automatic with more gear ranges that the engine can choose from thus giving the sensation of slowing quicker, plus keep in mind it's a VTEC engine that also has a distinct power band in mid range and when it reaches it's lower limit that sensation of deceleration could also be noticed.

    Just my opinion
  • ramoramo Posts: 66
    I have been reading a few owner's reviews at Yahoo, and the unsettling ones dealt with transmission problems. Has anyone got info on this?
    http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/honda_fit_2007/4796/model_user_reviews.html;_ylt=- AhJxSQJAwoAbQwShfTXqrte5Ws8F?sort=mh&trimid=19021&modelid=4796&reviewid=1&review- num=33&start=1&show=atf
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    Yeah, yahoo gets some Honda hater trolls that show up and write fake reviews. It's quite obvious, don't even worry about it. It's pretty easy to spot the fake posts. Yahoo is useless and a joke.
  • els2023els2023 Posts: 29
    I have a sport automatic but have yet to use the paddle shifters. Is there somewhere on the dashboard that will tell you what gear you are in if you use the paddle shifters?

    What is the proper way to use them and select gears?

    Is there a way to hurt the vehicle when using them?
  • hungarian83hungarian83 Posts: 678
    I have the base MT, so mine has a little "Fit" symbol underneath the tachometer, but you should have a little digital number that says what gear it is in.

    If you use the paddle shifters while in D, you can use them to get a quick boost of passing power, for example by shifting down into 4th from 5th. It will return to its chosen gear setting after a few seconds though.

    If you put the gear selector in S, you can shift the car manually with the paddle shifters. I would think the car have some sort of safety mechanism to prevent you from downshifting at too high of an engine speed, but I haven't driven it so I don't know. The owner's manual should tell you.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    If it is anything like the sportshift on the TL, if you try to shift into too low a gear, it won't shift but it will "remember" your request. And when the rpm have dropped sufficiently, it will complete the downshift.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    Yes, there is a number shown on the dash when you use the paddles. There must be some safety thing that won't let the engine shift lower than it should - one time I wanted to downshift to 4th, not realizing that the car had already done so automatically. It shifted to 3d and I wanted to shift it back up to 4th but accidentally used the downshift paddle (I was flustered). I was going about 65 and it (happily) did NOT try to shift to 2nd.
  • I have to tell you, no matter what you read, hear or speak, the MT is the way to go. Those paddle shifters are a joke. I test drove one, it is a gimmick. They don't do anything special. The only way to get the most out of your little 1500cc engine is to drive the manual 5 spd. If you don't know how to drive a manual, learn!
  • johnnyvjjohnnyvj Posts: 112
    I have to tell you, no matter what you read, hear or speak, the MT is the way to go. Those paddle shifters are a joke. I test drove one, it is a gimmick. They don't do anything special.

    Odd... Car and Driver, in its one-page test in the June issue of a Fit Sport AT, seemed to like the paddle shifters very much. Though they did agree that they still prefer manual.

    Still, they much preferred the paddles to a conventional automatic. :)
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    I have to tell you, no matter what you read, hear or speak, the MT is the way to go. Those paddle shifters are a joke.

    odd, jeff at TOV is a manual fanatic, has much more experierience than you, and he prefers the AT/paddles in the Fit. It is the first time he has preferred an AT over the manual. I have driven the paddles for over a month and I concur with the expert at TOV. I specifically wanted the MT SPort, but after driving the paddles it was an easy decision to pass on the MT. Your wrong, the paddles are no joke. They perform immediatly and shift faster than you can with the MT. The Fit performs great with the paddles. I've also read other reviews that support this opinion as well. If you don't know how to drive with the paddles, learn!
  • Well, I have been driving manuals for quite some time and consider myself to be an "expert". I guess to each there own. I still prefer the manual any day to an automatic with or without paddles!
  • hungarian83hungarian83 Posts: 678
    "I still prefer the manual any day to an automatic with or without paddles!"

    I completely agree, but the paddle shifters aren't just a gimmick since they do allow for more control. However, nothing beats the real thing. :)

    Someone recently criticized my purchase of the Fit with the 5MT, since in their opinion they would only purchase an automatic. Their reasoning was that they can't talk on the cell phone or drink coffee with the manual. :sick:
    (like that is bad thing?!)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,687
    LOL! Why would anyone be drinking coffee when they might be shifting? Same for using a cell phone. There are always hands-free phones and headsets for people who must talk on the phone while on the road. And I suppose a camel pack (insulated) for the coffee. :)
  • hungarian83hungarian83 Posts: 678
    "There are always hands-free phones and headsets for people who must talk on the phone while on the road."

    It is not the use of the hands that worries me about mobile phones while driving...it is the use of the mind.
    I have known manual-shifting since I started driving and unless I am at a constant speed on the motorway for a long time, I usually only have one hand on the steering wheel. However, one's point of focus shifts when talking on the phone (hands-free or otherwise). When people are commanding a two-ton box of metal at 80 mph, they should be focusing on driving, and not whether their non-fat soy latte tastes fine. ;) :)
  • ziggy6ziggy6 Posts: 9
    I am new to the forum but have enjoyed reading all about my new FIT which is supposed to arrive on June 20. I have a question about the paddles on the steering column. What are they exactly and how do they work? I have also ordered the armrest which came in last week. When my FIT arrives they will be installed. Also looking into the window visors but my dealership does not have. I did find a place that I could order from. Has anyone else ordered this item? Thanks
    Ziggy6 :)
  • hungarian83hungarian83 Posts: 678
    The paddles have two functions depending on where you have the gear selector. If the car is in "D", it will shift like a normal automatic transmission, but you can use the paddles for short-term gear changes. For example if you are cruising in 5th gear, tap the downshift paddle, and it will go down to 4th for better passing power, then in a few seconds it will return to 5th.
    If the car is in "S" mode you have to do the shifting with the paddles from 1-5 and the car will not automatically shift for you.

    College Hills Honda has an imports section. They will have the window visors imported from Australia, but it looks like they are not in stock yet. I have ordered from College Hills Honda, but not the visors.
  • You're right, the issue with cell phones isn't having something in your hand. People drive one-handed all the time.

    I think you're partially right that it's a concentration issue, but not because conversation is that distracting, people also talk to other passengers all the time. However, the relatively poor sound quality of cell phones does require more concentration than live voices.

    I think probably the biggest issue is that people take their eyes off the road to initiate a call (if they don't have voice dialing) and to answer calls (and perhaps to end them). I think those are the most dangerous times. Taking your eyes off the road seems like a bigger issue than use of a hand or conversation.
  • bluebell2bluebell2 Posts: 21
    Have a Fit Sport with manual transmission. So far we are very pleased. Excellent mileage, acceleration, and comfort - even with 4 adult passengers and AC on a highway trip.

    We noticed that there is a definite sort of clunk sound when the shifter goes to first, second, and third gears. No sound going into 4th or 5th. Honda service adjusted the shifter and lubricated - said some sound is normal for the Fit. We still hear the sound. Any other experiences with this sound? Any other feedback from Honda Service. Our service guys have been very reliable for our past Hondas. Thanks.
  • arlesarles Posts: 15
    I have a Fit Sport automatic. I have noticed such a slight sound sometimes at the time I start driving or change from reverse to going forward or vice versa. I don't hear it any other times and did not know whether it was of significance.
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