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Hyundai Azera 2007

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  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    My experience has been different.

    '05 Sonata, purchased new in April '05. Haven't had a bulb burn out yet and my lights are always set to the on position.

    18,700 miles, so that obviously has many trips which strains the electric system.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Actually...you don't seem to have THAT many miles on it in that time frame. So, to be honest...you're lights aren't on that often. When I had my '02 Sonata, I put 105K miles on it in 4 years, so you figure that's just over 26K miles a year. You've only got 18,700 in two!!! LOL
  • aiveraiver Posts: 4
    Took my dealer 1 month to find out about it --when I took it to the dealer [ after making appt. ] took my code numbers -- put it the garage the manager came out & said there was a 45 $ charge for it --- I said forget it ! it wasn't the money -just the way they handled it.It"s on page 1-6 in my owners manual.Good luck
  • Call Hyundai customer service. Dealer is supposed to set it as part of delivery for free. Same for auto door lock. My dealer, Upstate Hyundai, Anderson SC, did if for free twice as I changed both my limp home code and auto door locks.
  • aiveraiver Posts: 4
    Youv'e got a decent dealer CB,I called customer service & they told me the dealers are independents & they call the shots on things like this.Some will charge --others won't. Limp home is there if you want it -not neccessarily included, the free tow feature is there for us if disabled.Go figure??
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Don't know the truth behind them being able to charge for it. When I first bought my Azera (06), I had it up at the dealer to get the clock replaced. I had read about the limp home mode and the locks and the dealer said they would charge me $49 to take care of it. I came back for an oil change and I pulled in next to a sage green Azera. A guy walks out and asks me how I like mine. We chat and he lets on that he's the regional Hyundai Corp. rep. I told him everything I liked about the car, we chatted some more and I brought up the door locks and limp home mode and complained that it should be something that the dealer sets as part of the purchase...not done as a service call you pay for. He looked at me kinda funny and said, "There should be no charge at all for setting the door locks and limp home mode at all." He asked why I was there and I said an oil change and he walked in with me and proceeded to tell them to go ahead and take care of my settings while they did the oil change.

    I've also heard of folks that did pay to get it done, contacting Hyundai Corp USA and getting reimbursed for it.

    Personally...it comes with the car, there is no way one should have to pay to get it set. I tell you one thing, I LOVE the Saturn Outlook we purchased a few months back...you can set all those things from the driver's seat...door locks, exit/entry seat memory, back up assist (power mirrors folding down)...a host of features YOU yourself can set. That's how it should be!!!
  • iriegirliriegirl Posts: 4
    Anyone experiencing the not-so-dimmed rear view mirror when headlights are shining in your eyes?

    I know it's supposed to auto-dim, but I'm still being blinded. It's so frustrating sometimes that I'm tempted to get an old-school flip mirror...
  • rgb42rgb42 Posts: 40
    Have had my '08 Azera Limited for a bit over a month now, and what I noticed on mine was how well the auto-dimming mirror works, compared to the one that was in my '04 Maxima ... now THAT one actually did blind you!
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Are you making sure that the auto-dim feature is activated??? There is a button you have to press on the mirror to actually activate the auto-dim feature. I know, crazy, huh? I guess there are those that would wish to defeat that feature at night for the sole purpose of being blinded from behind!!! Seriously...press the on/off button and the feature will be activated, it took a minute for me to get used to it at first as it turns a green-ish hue when headlights hit the sensor.
  • iriegirliriegirl Posts: 4
    The light on my mirror is indeed green (and it has been all along). Do you notice a difference? I don't see it.
  • iriegirliriegirl Posts: 4
    Glad to know it's working for you. Did you have to "do" anything to the mirror itself or was it already activated? (Is the light green?).

    Not sure if it's different on my 2007.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Actually, yes...I do notice a difference, like I said...the headlights take on a green-ish hue and they are not as glaring.

    However, that was all up until I tinted my windows...now I don't use the auto dimming feature since the window tint does a great job on it's own.
  • medic481medic481 Posts: 32
    Hi- I have an '07 limited with the electric fold-in mirrors w/ built in turn signal. The owner's manual mentions a feature of the outside mirrors that will cause them to tilt down when the car is put in reverse. I tried this, adjusting the inboard mirror adjustment switch as indicated in the manual, to no avail. Are these mirrors actually supposed to do this?
  • dborthdborth Posts: 474
    "Are these mirrors actually supposed to do this?"

    They do in other Hyundai markets, but not in US.
  • I purchased 2007 Azera in November of last year after having admired them for over a year. I first saw one at the Seattle auto show in 2006 and it impressed me with the level of equipment for the price. Then at last year's show thay had an all out push with a large sales force and a fleet of test drive vehicles (the only manufacturer to do so) so I took the opportunity to test drive the Azera and it sold me. However I procrastinated for most of the year and finally went to a dealership to deal. This was a dedicated Hyundai dealership but it did not have a single Azera on the lot but said they could get one within a day. I asked why I never saw them on the road to which the salesman didn't have a real answer. Up until recently I don't think I saw another one other than my own. Haivng hammered out a deal I became the owner of a Limited with Ultimate package, which was duly available for me the next day. The salesman went through a litany of telling me all of the features, etc and even had me sign a form confirming that he had done so. I love the vehicle, it is silver with grey interior, per my specification. It now has some 4.5K miles ( I am retired so don't do that much driving). I have one gripe and that is the quality of the ride. It seems to transmit every ripple in the road and positively crashes over lrge bumps and potholes. I took it a local Hyundai dealer (dedicated) to have the first service performed and mentioned my dissatisfaction with the ride to the service manager who attributed to the "low profile tires having firmer side walls"
    Today I found this forum and I see from the threads some comments about ride but on the whole everyone seems happy with theirs, so I conclude that I do have a problem, which I have thought all along, Any suggestions??
    With regard to some other threads:-
    Auto-locking - from day one the doors have locked when the transmission is moved out of park and unlocked when the transmisison is placed in park.
    Easy exit - The tilt wheel rises on removal of the ignition key and lowers when the key is inserted.
    Rear Window Blind - I have seen no mention of that but it is there and it does lower when the transmission is placed in Reverse.
    With regard to gas mileage, I have checked the accuracy of the computed readout and it seems to be accurate. I zero the readout each time I fill and get an indication of how I am doing for each tank full. I have seen a reading as high as 31 in highway using cruise control at 65mph. Around town I typically see around 18mpg.
  • davemudavemu Posts: 9
    ...enjoy the ride. Fit and finish are unmatched in my dec. 07 purchase of pearl white/black interior 07 limited. I think you have something to pursue with the ride, I can't believe how quiet over RR tracks, corners, etc. Have left behind american made cars (years of impalas, fords) due to cutting corners on creature comforts...there are a few things that might be in the new Genesis (DRL, lights staying on after turning off car, etc. ) but for the money it is amazing. Son #1 married and bought new Sonata also a great car but NOT an Azera. I'm in the carpool and the Azera wins over a Honda accord and toyota camry hands down. Rear windowshade is great...don't forget you can NOT use it if you want. You must have an Ultimate model to have the tilt wheel I could be happier with gas mileage, 27 on straight highway (but doing 80 with cruise) and around town mix is 19. 25 mile commute to work is rural speeds with some stop/go around town and the overall is 22. Bought it for the bumper to bumper warranty, the "doesn't look like other cars," the cavernous interior, and overall quality. 16K miles over 8 months and looks/rides brand new. Only issue I've had was something in right suspension covered by warranty, great Superior Hyundai dealer in Cincinnati Ohio, a bit out of my way but worth the drive. Yes, I'll keep going back for the scheduled maintenance as I will drive this many many miles, and pass down to other sons possibly.
  • tonycdtonycd Posts: 223
    "You must have an Ultimate model to have the tilt wheel."

    Just to clarify for newbies, I believe Davemu means the power-assisted tilt and telescope wheel with two-position memory. Unless I'm mistaken, every Azera has a tilt wheel.
  • garym1jgarym1j Posts: 46
    Hi Brian

    As owner of an 07 Azera Limited, I make reference to your comment:

    "I have one gripe and that is the quality of the ride. It seems to transmit every ripple in the road and positively crashes over lrge bumps and potholes."

    I agree 100%. I have also read the threads concerning different kind of shocks, etc. I have determined that I have the correct shocks but that doesn't solve the problem. It is an excellent ride over roads without bumps or joints in the surface.
    Guess I will just live with it.

    On an extended trip on the freeway I have seen as high as 32.5 MPG (Wife was driving in an extended construction zone at 55 mph). Overall average at 60 mph was 30.8 for the trip consisting of 1420 miles. (I would support a 55 mph speed limit to conserve fuel nationally and save lives, however I also am retired and in no hurry to get anyplace).

    I saw one other Azera on my trip that included 5 days on the road between Tampa, Watertown NY, Watertown back to Tamps. Amazing. We waved at each other.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    hate to sound crass about this, but....a nice extended test drive would have pointed that out to you. Before I purchased my '06 Azera, I took it on an hour long test drive. I drove it over most of the roads I traverse on my daily commute to and from work so that I could see exactly how it would feel under daily driving.

    To say the lower profile tires create such a rough ride is poppycock, the Avalon has the same low profile (55 series) and the ride isn't as harsh.

    It still amazes me to this day that folks will buy a car based on a limited test drive and then complain about something that they would have easily known about had they spent a little more time with the car.

    As far as the ride quality concerning the Azera, from what I've found out from a few different Hyundai techs...the tuning of the suspension leans more towards sport (I'm referring to the damping level of the shocks). Of course, there's no sport feel when you take corners (considerable body lean). I've owned a couple sport coupes before and the ride is very similar to them, minus the flatter turning. I think the Azera could have actually benefitted from slightly softer shocks and better beefier anti-sway bars to control the body lean. Just my opinion though.

    You do have options though...

    #1) Simply live with it. #2) Replace the shocks with better ones, or #3) Trade the Azera in and get the new Genesis (you'll LOVE the ride...trust me)
  • snaglepussnaglepus Posts: 160
    :)

    "hate to sound crass about this, but....a nice extended test drive would have pointed that out to you. Before I purchased my '06 Azera, I took it on an hour long test drive. I drove it over most of the roads I traverse on my daily commute to and from work so that I could see exactly how it would feel under daily driving."

    Most dealers won't allow you to take such a long "extended test drive" because
    the house does not want a lot of miles on a new car that they might
    wind up having to try and sell to someone else if you do not buy.

    "To say the lower profile tires create such a rough ride is poppycock, the Avalon has the same low profile (55 series) and the ride isn't as harsh."

    Perhaps so, but I will wager that the Avalon does not suffer from the porpusing that our Azeras do.

    "It still amazes me to this day that folks will buy a car based on a limited test drive and then complain about something that they would have easily known about had they spent a little more time with the car."

    In the case of most of us, our problems with the lousy tune of our suspensions did
    not show up right away but took some several thousands of miles to appear.
    Impossible to detect even if your test drive took all day long.

    "As far as the ride quality concerning the Azera, from what I've found out from a few different Hyundai techs...the tuning of the suspension leans more towards sport (I'm referring to the damping level of the shocks). Of course, there's no sport feel when you take corners (considerable body lean). I've owned a couple sport coupes before and the ride is very similar to them, minus the flatter turning. I think the Azera could have actually benefitted from slightly softer shocks and better beefier anti-sway bars to control the body lean. Just my opinion though."

    These people do not know what they are talking about!
    No sport cars that I have owned (and I have had a few!) porpuse like my Azera.
    Several people have said that this type of suspension makes the car dangerious at speed,
    as in 'unsafe to drive' at what is now considered normal crusing speeds
    especially out here in the western states.

    "You do have options though...

    #1) Simply live with it. #2) Replace the shocks with better ones, or #3) Trade the Azera in and get the new Genesis (you'll LOVE the ride...trust me)"


    What options?
    #1) Simply live with it
    ? That's no good. That is the only thing that bothers
    me and I do not think that I should have to "Simply live with it."

    #2) "Replace the shocks with better ones?" Where when and how? There aren't any!
    I have either written or called every single aftermarket manufacturer you can name,
    and no one makes such a product for our cars. Of the few who answered, the general
    theme is "we have no plans to produce replacement shocks for the Azera."
    There is one . . Monroe said they will have a product by the end of this year,
    but from what I have learned, their aftermarket shocks are not worth
    the costs to have them installed, as they do not hold up either.

    #3) "Trade the Azera in and get the new Genesis (you'll LOVE the ride...trust me)"
    I cannot afford the terrible hit to trade now, nor would I trade for the Genesis at this time. Why?
    Because I read that one reporter described the same porpusing in the
    ones he drove and that makes it handle the same as our Azeras. :lemon:

    :D
  • "hate to sound crass about this, but....a nice extended test drive would have pointed that out to you. Before I purchased my '06 Azera, I took it on an hour long test drive. I drove it over most of the roads I traverse on my daily commute to and from work so that I could see exactly how it would feel under daily driving."

    I have to agree with sanglepus on this. Sometimes it is hard enough to get much more than a drive around the block. The test drive I took at the Auto Show was around downtown Seattle which was all in traffic so was not able to form a real impression then as to suspension problems. Then when I went to collect the car I took a more extensive test drive, with a salesman of course, and that was over streets that were of the extreme ends of surface quality, very bad or very good, and again around town and in traffic so difficult to say there were suspension problems.

    "It still amazes me to this day that folks will buy a car based on a limited test drive and then complain about something that they would have easily known about had they spent a little more time with the car."

    Again I agree with snaglepus that it took some time for the problem to really manifest itself and if anything it appears to be getting worse.

    "As far as the ride quality concerning the Azera, from what I've found out from a few different Hyundai techs...the tuning of the suspension leans more towards sport (I'm referring to the damping level of the shocks). Of course, there's no sport feel when you take corners (considerable body lean). I've owned a couple sport coupes before and the ride is very similar to them, minus the flatter turning. I think the Azera could have actually benefitted from slightly softer shocks and better beefier anti-sway bars to control the body lean. Just my opinion though."

    I have owned sports cars in my day. Having originally come from England I am referring to traditional English sports cars, so I know all about "firm" suspension. My two vehicles prior to the Azera were Subarus, the first being an Outback Sport which I owned for four years and the reason I traded that for a Legacy because I was tired of the firm ride ( the old bones don't take kindly to it). I decided to trade the Legacy as I wanted for once in my life to own a car with something of a luxury quality about it and the Azera seemed to fill the bill without breaking the bank. I did a lot of research with CR, etc and the Azera always seemed to get a good write up, although one report did mention an occasional clonk in the rear suspension, but not in any way derogatory. I have never experienced the wallowing that is referred to and I have had it up to 80mph. Also I have not noticed any of the body lean that was mentioned, but then I don't drive like I am Mario Andretti on a race track, although I do not drive at a snails pace either. As a youth my father always complained that I had three speeds " Fast, Bloody Fast and Bang"

    I do intend to take it to the dealer that I bought it from and see of they are prepared to do anything about it. As for trading to the Genesis, I don't have the luxury of that kind of financial freedom. This car is less than a year old with me, although it was only just recently that I noticed on the manufacturers plate by the drivers door that It was built early last year, I don't recall the exact month but it did get my attention at the time and struck me that it had obviously been on a dealer lot for some months.
    I have no other complaints about the car. Everything else works as advertised. One thing I have seen talked about which is new to me is the "limp home mode" What is that?
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Snags...long time no hear!!!

    As far as extended test drives...if you're serious about buying and the dealer knows that...you can do it. In most cases, they will try to have you test drive the car you might end up buying if the demo isn't available. Heck, when I test drove the Azera, I gave no indication as to when I was purchasing and they let me take it with no problem.

    Well...the porpusing will not happen in a sports coupe because the suspension operates in harmony. I think that's the problem with the Azera's suspension...it's sport tuned without the proper components in place to make it act as such. As far as my comment about the Azera feeling like a sport coupe...not the wallowing part, the part about feeling every ripple and bump that you drive over when it comes to less than perfect pavement. The wallowing is due to the fact that beefier anti-sway components are lacking to control the lean of the car. The tire choice has a little to do with that because there is some give (or lean) when the car is in turns. I have noticed a slight improvement in that area when I put 20" rims with a much lower profile tire (35 series) so there is no lean in the tire in turns.

    I've never heard of anyone complaining about the Azera being dangerous to drive at speed, that's ludicrous to say the least. You've driven your Azera "at speed" do you feel there is any danger?

    If the problem is there, it's there from the beginning, something like the suspension problem folks complain about isn't going to just simply appear one day after a couple thousand miles. It also won't appear until you drive on a road or in conditions that make it show. Again, a test drive over your normal driving routes will show you everything you need to see.

    As far as shocks, which I apologize...they are not shocks, but rather struts and yes...there are replacement options out there.KDMStuff.com Azera Coilover Suspension Set

    As far as the Genesis...the reporter you mention tested a pre-production version. If you go over to the 2009 Hyundai Genesis forum, you will see EVERYONE that has driven one to date (myself included) have simply raved about the way the car handles. The ride is head and shoulders above that of the Azera. So to place your trust in one reporter (who was probably biased against Hyundai to begin with) was lacking on your part. Trust me...the Genesis handling is by far, much better than that of our Azeras. Do yourself a favor and go test drive one if you don't believe me my friend. Check this quick blurb someone just posted...2009 Hyundai Genesis posting #2405

    As far as the options go...they still stand. Either live with it as it currently is, change it (I've provided an option for you) or get another car. Oh...one more options, press Hyundai to install new struts to see if the problem goes away. Probably won't because it's not the struts, it's the way the whole system is tuned and I hate to admit it...they didn't do a great job with it.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Simply put, if a dealer isn't going to give you what you need to feel confident in buying their product...walk away. You the consumer have the power, but by dancing to their music...you put the power in their hands.

    I've had my Azera for over 2 years and I've put over 53K miles on it and I haven't had any issues. I've accepted the reason why the wallowing exists, but like you said...if you're not driving like Mario Andretti, it shouldn't be a problem. The car is a highway cruiser/family mover, not a sporty touring sedan. However, if a soft cushy all around ride is what you were looking for...maybe you would have been better served by looking at the Buick Lucerne.

    One thing you have to remember when it comes to the build date you may see on the car....they are coming from Korea so there's no telling how long it was sitting over there before it was shipped (they had to wait until they had a full shipment), then the trip over, once here...they are distributed. So it really may not have been on the dealer's lot long at all to be honest.

    Oh...I did forget to mention one other option you may have that could help a little bit...change the tires. Goodyear has that new comfort tread technology that's supposed to absorb road irregularities, maybe they could make a difference for you.

    Limp home mode from my understanding is that if there is any problems with the drivetrain, it allows you to drive the car home or to a repair facility and it limits the transmission to only 2nd gear I believe and you can only drive like 35 mph. The owner's manual explains limp home mode a little bit, but there's a code you can set (which is a series of key turns in the ignition to activate it, but you have to go to the dealer to actually set the code).
  • carolinabobcarolinabob Posts: 511
    I test drove four differnt Azeras before purchasing one. I drove each for 30 minutes to one hour and over various road surfaces and did not detect the ride problems that later showed up. Based upon my experiences and those of others, the shocks are adequate until they have over 3-4,000 miles on them and then the problems occur and get worse as the shocks age.
    The car rode much better after Hyundai initially replaced the 041 shocks with 040's, but after about 3-4,000 miles, the problems returned just as before.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    That being the case, I would be going back to them and having them replace them until they decide to provide better components. With my Azera, I have not experienced any suspension problems with over 50K miles on it. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones...this was a case of the first model year being the better one.
  • snaglepussnaglepus Posts: 160
    :)

    How goes it Mike? ;)

    Might I suggest that you may have an early production example built before Hyundai issued TSB 07-50-007 dated September, 2007 covering cars with build dates Dec.05, 2005 athrough Feb. 26, 2007.

    What is your build date? :confuse:

    If that be the case, Hyundai must have know that the earliest 2006 cars built prior to Dec. 05, 2005
    had decent quality shocks, and that somehow MANDO had started building the junk
    that the rest of us received with cars built Dec 05, 2005 and later. :lemon:

    If that is so, you got a set of good shocks I think.

    :D
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    You know what, after checking this morning...you are correct. Mine was built Nov. 7, 2005.

    It amazes me that if they are having the complaints they are, they would go back with the earlier ones.
  • jaymagicjaymagic Posts: 309
    Limp Home Mode is a part of the Immobilizer system. This is a security system tied to the electronic key. If someone tries to use an improper key, the car won't start, but you can put it in limp home mode (limited speed capability) by using a code to "prove to the computer" that you are entitled to drive the car.

    My 07 Limited now has about 38,000 mi on it (11/06) purchase date. So, it is one of the ones under the TSB for shocks. However, I have had no issues with the original suspension, that I was not aware of when I bought the car. I did not expect a sport sedan and knew I wasn't buying a sport sedan. Mine handles all I want to do without any problems or unusual noises, including lots of time in the Colorado mountains.

    I don't agree at all about it not handling at speed. Mine has been over 140mph and felt very solid. If I had wanted a car to run on a road course, I would not have gotten an Azera, but I wanted at least a near luxury sedan, with decent performance. And, my Azera has delivered. BTW, I am still averaging about 25mpg.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Hey Jay, thanks for the update on the Limp Home Mode, I wasn't 100% sure on it.

    As far as the handling at speed...over 140, huh? I got mine up to 130, but on the factory wheels, it did feel a bit floaty so I backed off at that point. However, up to 100 mph, the car truly did feel solid which really makes me wonder what those folks that say otherwise are thinking or actually doing. When I have my 20" wheels with the lower profile tires on...140 was rock solid.

    I think some folks are TRYING to push the Azera through twisty curvies as if driving a BMW and finding that it's not a BMW. The Azera suspension, is more than capable and quite compliant when driven under the normal conditions it was designed for. I just think Hyundai got the wrong mix of sport and comfort when they tuned it. If they were gonna do sport, they should have gone all the way sport and gave beefier anti-sway bars as well as beefier springs which would control body lean in corners. If they were gonna go with comfort, the should have just tuned it exactly as the Amanti suspension is tuned.
  • snaglepussnaglepus Posts: 160
    :)

    I am completely satisfied with my Azeras ability to carve the curves, but it is the porpusing that I object to.

    It has enough ability to go fast through the curves to be able to give me motion sickness.
    I just don't like feeling seasick from the porpusing on certain types of roads.

    This is caused by there being a lack of proper control account of the original shocks
    plus the TSB replacement shocks wearing enough in less than 5K miles to
    now not be able to stop this 'up and down' front end motion.

    As an example, should not the front of the car stop going up and down
    after the first complete cycle and not continue that monkey motion?
    It behaved properly when brand new, and again after the TSB shocks were installed, but after
    less than 5K miles on the TSB replacements, it returned to its porpusing ways again. :lemon:

    :D
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