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Jeep Commander Start Stall and Idle Problems

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  • shawnaflshawnafl Posts: 2
    Got absolutely no resolution but did have to pay $100 for a diagnostic test that I knew would not show a thing. They wanted to let a technician drive the car home but I declined. It's not something that happens all the time which is what makes it even that more scary because you don't know when it's going to happen!!! I'm going to write a letter and then get rid of it. It's not worth risking the life of my family.
  • itabotitabot Posts: 105
    i don't think there is much of a market for these cars, i.e., the only real solution is to sell it for parts (of which i don't think that there are that many in this Jeep of value) or scrap metal.

    that was my predicament when i first realized how much $ had to go into recreating the car so that it functioned consistently (though i still can't call it reliable), i.e., i realized that there was no alternative but to do so. Once you buy a jeep commander, it is - for reasons above - yours forever.
  • lowenivylowenivy Posts: 14
    You are right there, battery nor the starter are not the problem. I owned an '08 V6 which had a stalling problems too.I replaced the starter and the battery with brand new ones, new key pod and computer, but the poblem of stalling at any time still exist. It happened for 18th time in two years, and had spent a lot of dough curing my Commander's relentless illness, I call it cancer. I used my Advantage warranty for their towing services and it's good having that. Then I had known that the stalling problem was the result of incompatible electrical and computer design which was installed during the manufacturing process and there was no long term test at all for the vehicle and was placed in the market in a haze. So the result and the ultimate decision of the corporate "Daimler-Chrysler Motors, LLC" is to stop the Commander's production in 2009, 2010 is a carry over of the dealers to ged rid of the remaining stocks. (Sources came from the corporate insider). Come to think of it, why would they stop its production when in fact it was selling in 2006 and 2007?

    I traded my '08 last year with a different SUV. What a surprise, as I was with a buddy in his Hyunda car for his scheduled oil change in a Hyundai Dealer here at Lincoln Ave, Chicago, I saw my Commander park behind the building full of dust along with other cars. I know my Jeep since the grille was replaced with a chrome mesh screen, like a Jaguar and the front and rear "Jeep" logo was removed for Ebay. I inquired its status, and a salesman told me it was a trade-in for a new Sonata. So it was sold and later used as a trade-in again from that time period I disposed it. And the jeep was never resold. They could not fix the problem, so its just sittng there for almost 10 months now.

    Maybe some owners does not have the same problem or is it? We all love our Commanders, but is it a reliable SUVs? We can keep it and why not, but we have to brace ourselves when the rough gets going! Good luck.
  • vanessa54vanessa54 Posts: 1
    I have a 2006 Jeep Commander that only has 38,883 miles on it. About two weeks ago I was driving to work and all of the dash board lights came on. The air conditioner cut out at the same time this happened. Sometimes it would happen 4 or 5 times in a 4 mile span to work.
    Then I pulled into my driveway and wondered if it was my a/c doing this but turning it off and on did not make the dashboard lights come on. Then I accidentally hit the key while it was in the ignition and the car was still running and the lights came on again!
    Today I took it in for an oil change and asked them to come to my car I wanted to show them what was happening so maybe they could fix it. I jiggled the key in the ignition with the car running and the dashboard lights came on!
    They told me it was my ignition switch making that happen and was told to get it fixed right away as my car would eventually stall if the switch went totally out!
    Does all this make sense? Or is it something else?
    I have been reading all the stall posts and now I am a little worried about driving this curvy country road to work!
    Thanks for any help with this ...
    Vanessa
  • ron189ron189 Posts: 6
    I posted a few months ago about a problem related to accidentally hitting the key in the ignition. Just after I pulled away from a stop sign and turned right, my knee accidentally brushed the key in the ignition and the car died on me. I just reached down and recranked it before it ever came to a stop and that was the end of it. But there may be something to these problems being related to the ignition....just my opinion. :)
  • itabotitabot Posts: 105
    Honda is doing,regarding the software problem (see link below).

    Has anyone else had and successfully fixed the software problem, i.e., is that what is the source of the stall issues and blinking dash?

    I've pretty much - nearly $7k to do so - got Commander to the level of almost reliable, but the blinking dashboard and feeling of lag when quickly accelerating from what, if I was in standard, would be 1st to 2nd to 3rd, the mechanics think is a software problem. I'm reluctant to put more $ into the Commander but it isn't fair to pass such a dangerous problem on to someone else and I feel like - if this 1 hopefully last manufacturer's mistake is corrected, it will be a great SUV to have on hand. In addition, I love it's contemporary design.

    DETROIT (Reuters) – Honda Motor Co Ltd will recall 1.5 million cars and small SUVs in United States to repair the software that controls the automatic transmission, the automaker said on Friday.
  • I have had my 2006 commander for going on 3 years now and just recently started having the leak, about 2 inches of water on the passenger side floorboards. I have noticed drips of water coming from what I believe is the screw cover near the handle near the windshield on the passenger side. If you are bringing a class action lawsuit, please include me as I take meticulous care of my commander, now the inside, for several days after drying out, stinks like mold and mildew... I'm also having stalling problems.
  • itabotitabot Posts: 105
    I had that problem; if you have a sunroof what you need to do is get the drain holes in the sunroof cleaned out. there is one drain hole in each of the 4 corners; eventually these holes become clogged with dirt, leaves, and wax from car wash.

    jeep dealer - they are really too much - told me that they couldn't just clean holes out but had to replace several pieces estimating cost $500+. however, 2 independent service stations explained that just cleaning them out would end the leaks into the passenger side. I was charged $135. they use a high pressure air hose. I have been through several storms since they were cleaned out, i.e., no more leaks since cleaned out with high pressure air hose.

    you'll know if it's clogged drain holes if you park over dry pavement, pour windshield fluid into tracks of drainage area of open sunroof and over the wheel wells - if the sunroof drains aren't clogged - you will see the fluid; if the sunroof drains are clogged it will remain dry.

    Hopefully that's the problem. It's easy to remedy.
  • I guess this will all be redundant but I too have a 2006 Jeep Commander limited. Bought it used last year. I would say for the first 6 months it ran like a top. No issues no problems at all. All of the sudden one day, I was backing out of my driveway and when I put the car in drive...it didn't move. Once I realized it had stalled, I was able to start it right back up without any trouble....however the volume on the stereo began going up and up and up all by itself. I shut it off, and didn't think much of it.
    Since that day it stalls randomly for no reason, even while driving at high rates of speed, dashboard controls go out, headlights go out (yes even on dark roads at night). I have found that if I am patient when I turn the key, and wait a few seconds for all of the controls to climb up before actually starting the engine, that the dash board will function normally, but occasionally the engine light is on after an "incident".
    Jeep had a recall for some computer chip so I contacted them to see if that could be the problem and they said that my VIN was included in the recall but had already been repaired.
    Based on all of the things I'm reading I'm considering having the ignition switch replaced but haven't tried that yet b/c I'm not into throwing money away for no real reason.
    Why hasn't more been done? I bet I have seen hundreds of posts for this or very similar issues with this SUV...how are they getting away with what is clearly a manufacturing defect as significant as this? Does someone have to die first????
    I wonder if any type of class action suit has been filed...if not maybe I will pursue that :)
  • My 2006 Commander is dead in the driveway - AGAIN!!! I, too, was told that my computer chip was replaced (although I am the original owner, I do not recall them ever mentioning this on a service or receive a letter stating this problem) ... Really? Now the dash says: Programming Active. Huh??? I have had it ... I have four children and I am a single parent. This car is not reliable or even safe to drive, in my opinion. Jeep assured me in June that that they "could not duplicate the problem."
  • My 2006 (75,000 miles) Commander. We bought it in May 2011 from Carmax. We have bought previously from them and thought we were getting a good deal. although we are still paying $20K for it, its loaded. We have had nothing but problems. It is in the shop again today for the 5th time since we bought it! We have heard constant clicking noises in the engine since we drove it home. It had problems with the idle and they changed the throttle positioning sensor. We replaces spark plugs, air filter, changes oil. Still has noise in engine! Carmax keeps taking it to dealer where they are not finding any problems. The second time I took it too dealer myself and made the manager ride with me...he notices the jerking when coming to stop. IT was fine for a about 2 weeks and now it jerks again and hesitates when pressing gas. They keep telling me they can not find anything wrong, Its very frustrating that we have bought this car and its been in the shop more than any other vehicle we have Ever owned! I have 4 children and can not afford to buy another vehicle. Class Action Lawsuit...Im in! Lemon Laws does not qualify for me here in MO but still looking into talking to a lawyer! :sick: :sick: :sick:
  • itabotitabot Posts: 105
    It's costly - a little over $1k - but, it worked for my Commander: replace hoses. It seems that several pieces of The Commander when initially installed were inferior so that they deteriorate much faster than they should for a Jeep, then they should for any SUV.

    If you're really considering class action, you need to start complaining to Jeep via certified letters. If someone on this forum starts a thread with letter by which the letters can be uniform, and then each of us adds our own personal details as experienced that would be great.

    In absence of that suit or until that suit forms, you're essentially doing as I'm doing, i.e., rebuilding The Commander so that it functions like a real Jeep.

    The company should be ashamed of itself not taking initiative here.
  • I've had my commander for a little over two years and I've had alot of issues with leaks, idling and other small issues. I fixed both manifold gaskets and replacing one because the bolts snapped. I just replaced the water pump because i had a major coolant leak. I love the Commander because it is a great vehicle its heavy duty and I just like Jeep but they took a wrong turn on this one, Needless to say i know what you are all going through and I'm in on what ever we can do to get the company to take up some responsibility. Because I believe that we are all hard working individuals and we shouldn't be spending most of our time worrying about what else is going to break. Or spending our money on a vehicle that should hold its own.
  • I am so beyond annoyed with this Commander situation. I bought a left over '08 in '09 and have about 50K miles that I've accumulated over the past two years. Prior to this past Monday I have never had an issue with my truck (except for an issue with the airbag alert not going off so now they're saying I need a new seat belt). I digress, on Monday I was driving to work (60+ mile commute) when every light imaginable began flashing in my car and then the car just stopped accelerating but never cut off. It started running really loud so I pulled over, cut it off, gave it a minute and tried it again - same thing. I was able to drive it to the dealer - probably 7-8 miles away but it wouldn't accelerate past 30ish. Left it at the dealer and they called and said it was a sensor problem. Off the bat they charged me $105 to look at it and then tacked on another $25 for the sensor. I was actually relieved b/c I thought it was the engine. I finally got my car back today, drove it like 30 miles and no issue. I'm get in again a few hours later, on the turnpike again and same thing - panel lights up car stops accelerating but stays on. Conveniently service is closed at this point but I kinda need my vehicle to get back and forth to work but there's no way I'm risking taking this thing on the road. Guess I'll head back to the dealer and see what they say. I think I'm going to try to trade it in this weekend if it will act right. So is this what you guys experience when you reference the engine stalling?
  • Hi....it sounds similar although I dont think I have ever noticed issues with acceleration....but generally when it happens I quickly pull off the road to turn the engine off and back on b/c I'm worried that if the gauges aren't working then I will tear something up if I keep going.
    I have become so accustom to this happening to my jeep that if I'm super careful when I start it up I dont seem to have as many issues. So basically what i have to do is get in...gentlly and slowly turn the key to the on position and wait until all of the controls go up before actually starting the engine. I have had times where I'm driving and the dashboard controls all go to zero basically after the lights flicker and a few dings happen. My headlights also go out when this happens so when it's dark it's loads of fun!
    It's very frustrating and there is no doubt that this model has some MAJOR electrical or computer issues and it's also obvious that JEEP doesn't really give a damn :(
  • itabotitabot Posts: 105
    i have the blinking dashboard problem only now that it is again chilly in the mornings; i live in NYC. Also, now that it is chilly, a loud beep sounds from the dashboard a couple of times every 30 seconds or so for 1.5-2minutes after first starting it in the am. these problems don't happen in the summer or if i have been using the car all day.

    if you can't trade in at a reasonable price, i really recommend finding an independent/non-dealer jeep specialist in your area. someone who actually drives and owns jeeps. i luckily found that at BP in Wilton, CT; there they discovered the basic problems were rotting hoses and other 'lines'. now that those have been replaced, i really don't have the problems of stalling any longer. apparently the hoses originally installed were not of good enough quality or maybe they were installed poorly; all i know is that now that those have been replaced, the commander isn't being towed constantly.

    jeep should have recalled the commander on this basis but since they didn't, if you have one, that's the way to repair it, i.e., as jeep corporate said, "it's a total rebuild (which they were not going to cover; and they dealer insisted they would not pay for)."
  • I own a 2006 Jeep Commander and I have had to replace the battery three times since 2007 and I have had to rebuild transmission, and now the worst of all I now have to buy a new engine for $6,000 and I still owe a lot on it. I bought this Jeep and was in love with how it drives and all the bells and whistles it had to offer, but now I can't believe that a vehicle that costs as much as it did when I bought could have so many costly repairs. I am in disbelief. There was no warning lights I just went out to crank it and go to my next appointment and it made an aweful noise and then it would not crank. The lifter went out on it and caused a lot of major damage. Has anyone esle experienced this type of damage to their Jeep Commander or other Hemi type engine? There is no warranty left and I am screwed. :mad:
  • kam888kam888 Posts: 1
    I love my Jeep Commander; however, over the course of the last year, the engine has been progressively stalling more and more. I have taken it to several Jeep dealerships, as well, as private mechanics. Nobody seems to be able to figure out the problem. It is now a safety issue. There's nothing like driving 70 mph down the freeway, and having the engine stall out. Now, it stalls at every traffic light, stop sign, etc. I went through a drive through this past weekend, and it stalled out 8 times in 5 minutes. I can only use my Jeep to get to work and back. Thank goodness I only live 5 minutes from work. I am getting married in two weeks, and I am going to have to rent a car to go to the mountains for my honeymoon. I've been reading a lot of information about the poor electrical and mechanical systems in this particular model. It is very sad that Chrysler allowed the vehicle to be sold, in the first place. I am paying for something that basically has to stay parked. I would love it if the Jeep could actually be fixed, because I can't afford to put one more dime into repairs on a guessing game.
  • My wife and I purchased a used Commander in the beginning of July 2011. Since then we have had problems with the front windows rolling back down when using the automatic switch. It has also started to just shut off at times. Two days ago the check engine light came on. I drove a friend home who lives 2 blocks away. I shut the engine off and it would not start back up. We jump started it and it worked fine until the next morning. Same thing, had to jump start it. I took it to O'Reiley's and they checked the battery and starter...no issues. I got the code and it was P0562 (System Voltage Engine side too low). This vehicle is equipped with remote start which seems to work more than trying to start it normally. Every once in a while the check engine light goes off and I have no idea what is going on. The dealership we bought it from is doing nothing for us and I am at whits end. I hope someone out there might have some insight for me as to what the problem might be.
  • itabotitabot Posts: 105
    I have been posting on here for years now re. my beautiful Jeep Commander; after over $5,ooo in replacement parts and the service charges to install, I've come to love it's, to say the least, 'quirks'. I also had dealer problems; the Jeep Dealer in Georgetown/Norwalk, CT did not file the warranty papers and literally told me that they didn't care what coporate said (this after we had specifically told the dealer sales associate to load it up with warranties). That said, Jeep Corporate confirmed they would do nothing for me, i.e., they don't want any part of the Commander once it's off a Jeep lot.

    I found an actual Jeep specialist in Wilton, CT at the BP service center there. I don't know if it's possible for him to diagnose your vehicle over the phone or to consult with your local jeep technician, but I would consider it. He totally resuscitated my Jeep Commander.

    And, I hope the following helps:

    re. check engine light, that seems to come on less so in mild but not hot and not cold outdoor temperatures, and when I am using premium gasoline.

    However, even under those conditions, when I really use that V8 engine quickly up to 80mph say from 40 or 50 mph or when I make a sharp turn, that check engine light will likely come on. I have replaced gas cap and had that checked. it's just very sensitive. I'm sure Jeep told you that it will shut off on its own within 80miles of driving from when it came on and after you've started and turned off engine a couple of times.

    re. electrical system, I haven't had them work on this yet but it is still a concern because if you feel the control panel it gets scorching hot. again, when outdoor temp is mild the panel lights don't blink but when it's either hot or cold the panel lights blink. I had older person in the car recently and hadn't warned them about this...the blinking lights, they thought they were having a stroke.

    the starter has been replaced 2x. Once by Jeep Dealer and another by the independent BP technician. The one installed by BP in Wilton, CT has not had any problems. There is no choking like there was with the 1 the Commander came with and like there was with the 1 that the Georgetown/Norwalk, CT Jeep dealer installed.

    That said, BP Jeep Specialist also replaced some hoses that had deteriorated. you should have your technician check for deterioration of the hoses. That can impact the ability of the starter to function.

    And, though you didn't mention it, if you have sunroof and you notice water leaking into roof of car, the trick is to get the drain holes in the sunroof, to get technician to use airhose to blow them out clean. there will be debris, leaves, dirt, car wash wax, etc., and that is what clogs up and causes leaks, water collecting in roof, etc., which can also cause electrical problems if not remedied.

    Once you find the right jeep specialist, it can become, though more expensive than you anticipated, a lovely looking and interesting car to own.
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