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Subaru B9 Tribeca Navigation System Questions

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  • x5killerx5killer Posts: 368
    subaru navigation dvds by x5killer
    Aug 21, 2008 (2:54 pm)
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    I did the mod to the back of the nav unit to ebable input while driving which my wife is very happy about as it was very annoying that the passenger couldn't.
     
    I waited to install my nav 3.0 update until after I did it as it was easier too see when the wire as grounded through the menu available in that version.
     
    good thing to because when I tried to go into that menu by holding the top middle of the menu screen until the screen that asks you for the passsword or whatever pops up, the code I had didn't work.
     
    I believe it was cluelesspa on the main tribeca thread that shared this mod including the code to access that menu on suba nav v 2.0 or 3. and ill have to tell him it didn't work or hopefully he sees this post and id like to get the right code.
     
    also wondering where I could sell the old nav dvd though maybe I should make a copy of it as if ever needed to access that menu again id need to put the old dvd back in unless I get the right accesscode.
     
    it comes with a west coast version and I've heard of ppl on the forums from opposite coasts splitting the coast or sselling to someone on the other side the other dvd for half.
     
    I have no need for the est coast dvd so I should def sell that.
     
    anyone need the subaru nav newest ver. 3 for the west coast?

    is their a 3rd dvd for midwest? I can sell that too then polus if anyone wants version 1.0 which makes it easier to do the mod.

    edit: ah it was cluelesspa who shared the mod. thanks man! it work great and is a godsend. my wife is happy. before I did this it was one of the most annoying tings about the nav thaty the passenger couldn't operate it even though it can detect a passenger for the airbag
  • cluelesspacluelesspa Posts: 648
    glad it worked... not sure why the code to confirm that the EBrake was activated did not work. it worked fine on my 2.0 version system. you really dont need it if you did the mod already... its just nice to confirm.

    I love the portable media player hook up... its great to have about 30 movies on tap along with 30 or so MP3 albums!

    drop me a private msg when you get a chance.
  • x5killerx5killer Posts: 368
    yeah the code you gave must just be for nav version 2.0 because it didnt work for v. 3.0

    as you said though i dont need to access that menu anyway but it was good i did the mod first before updating to 3.0 when we could see when we had the wire grounded via the menu easily accesible in ver. 1.0

    where did you get the menu acceas cod because if someone who already upgraded to 3.0 wont be able to with that code and may make it harder to know when they have the wire grounded.

    i know i had to tell my friend doing it when the pkb indicator in that menu was on or off till he secured the wire and got it to stay off so it does help when first doing it.

    after that you wont need it but im thinking aout keeping my 1.0 dvd until i find out the access code for ver. 3.0 in case i ever nned to access that menu again.

    i will msg you about the other mods that have been discussed earlier in this and the other thread and the media player plus get your reccomendations on adding some screens but im at the beach/shore right now and wm phone battery is dying
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Thanks for documenting the mod, I'm sure someone will find it useful. :shades:
  • amy10amy10 Posts: 26
    My 2007 Tribeca came with the Version 1.1 2005-2006 Nav. System DVD. Is it worth upgrading to the more current one? When did the newest one come out? Thank you for your input. :)
  • I called Subaru to ask if there was any way to replace the nav unit with one that was actually usable. They said no. I expressed my displeasure with the unit, and to try to make me happy they send me the latest DVD update free of charge. In my area, I see no improvement whatever with the latest DVD. There are still stores that closed over 15 years ago, on the DVD. Changes to major roads made over 5 years ago do not appear on the maps. This, of course, may be different for your area. I would say that if you get the upgrade for free, it might help in your area, although it was no better in my area. In my opinion, actually paying for this version is a complete waste of money.
  • I forgot to mention that I started with Version 2.0, and now I have both Version 2.0 and 3.0, and there is no difference between them in my area. I can't say what improvement going from 1.1 to 3.0 would take place. I can say that I have a pile of DVD's, and they are essentially the same content in my area, both missing major road and point of interest changes. My guess would be that even the latest version, in many regards, lags reality by about 5 to 10 years. Hope this helps you.
  • amy10amy10 Posts: 26
    Thank you very much for your time and input. I appreciate it! Looks like I'll make do with the 1.1. Thanks again.
  • I tried the trick today of pressing the parking brake lever one click while driving to let me use the navigation system. (I was in a safe area to do this).

    Anyways, it doesn't work. Do you think it has something to do w/the fact that I have version 1 DVD?

    I don't know if I want to go so far as to ground the wire so we can use the Navi on trips. I don't like the idea of the parking brake staying lit. I would also have to upgrade my DVD.

    Any suggestions?
  • x5killerx5killer Posts: 368
    parking brake one click never allowed you to use nav while driving. it just turns off the day time running lights so I sometimes like to do it as my after market headlight bulbs (sylvania silver star whites) seem to burn out much quicker then oem headlight bulbs. Also, if you have rear entertainment system (dvd) it allows you to watch on the front screen while driving.

    to get nav while driving you have to do the ground wire trick on the back of the nav unit underneath the drivers seat. its not a big deal and doesn't cause any other issues or the parking break light to be on, it has nothing to do with that really.

    its easier to do with the nav dvd 1.1 anyway cus you can check in the one screen to make sure its off. then later you can update and it will remain useable (nav input) while driving.
  • well 1.1 to 2.0 the maps are newer. all data maps they use are always about 2 or 3 yrs behind typically for most major metro areas. its just takes those companies that much time to update the database then Kenwood has to incorporate it. but 1.1 to 3.0 probably would be noticable...

    also 2.0 adds some subtle changes to the system... it seems to calculate some roads in my area better (I am guessing they did some changes to the road data in those areas). but it still routes you down some small roads sometimes. just less often.

    2.0 also I think added the Daylight savings time adjustment to the clock setting. and there is a new map view I think with the actual GPS coordinates view. If you have 1.1 I would recommend going to 3.X

    I have 2.0 right now and will wait until 4.X to upgrade again.
  • amy10amy10 Posts: 26
    Thank you for your response! Think I will purchase after all. :)
  • Also, if you have rear entertainment system (dvd) it allows you to watch on the front screen while driving.

    But this requires some mod work doesn't it. I would love to get the front DVD working as I carpool kids in the morning and my son sits in the front. He doesn't get to watch the movies with his friends, which he doesn't mind too much. His friends think it's a novelty!
  • seems like a lot of work just to do what you can do by pressing the parking brake lever one click which doesn't engage the actual parking brake or i think what some ppl have done which was find something to permanently depress the button it presses which also doesnt' engage the parking brake.

    I just was trying out your suggestion that clicking on the parking brake was easier than messing with grounding a wire in the Nav unit. But it didn't work.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I see no improvement whatever with the latest DVD. There are still stores that closed over 15 years ago, on the DVD. Changes to major roads made over 5 years ago do not appear on the maps.

    You have to send these updates to the mapping companies, rather than just complain. Otherwise they will never get fixed.

    Garmin's maps still don't include the Bridgeville, MD, McDonald's, which has been there since the 1980s at least. I did submit that error so hopefully it appears on the next map update.

    If noone tells them, they'll never know! Send updates!
  • you have to press the parking brake one click and then hit the AUDIO button on the dash twice it will toggle between the video and the audio menu.

    note that doing that pressing one click, I think disables the running light daytime
    and also you will see the red brake light on.

    if you know someone with a little electrical wiring knowledge the hack to get the unit to work all the time is a better fix.
  • First, this was a reply to someone who asked if it was worth spending almost $300 for the latest update. Since I have the latest update, I offered my experience with it. Next, we are not speaking about a Garmin product. This GPS is made by Kenwood, and installed in the Subaru Tribeca as OEM equipment. I don't think the mapping provider is the same one used by Garmin. You spoke about complaining. This is not a complaint, although it should be, but an observation. As a consumer activist, I can tell you that complaints are an extremely effective way to bring about change. Complaining is what you may need to do. It is not the responsibility of the consumer to fix the product that he purchased. It is the responsibility of the provider to provide a warrant of merchantability. I enjoy Wikipedia, but since it is user edited and written, I would never depend on its accuracy. I certainly would not want my maps to be edited by user submissions. You said 'if noone tells them, they'll never know' It's their job to know, and offer an accurate product. Companies that offer poor products don't stay in business very long. I have had Garmin GPS units since 1991, and I have submitted many corrections to the various editions of their mapping software. It is difficult to say if it helped at all. I am sure that Garmin gets many suggestions for updates to the maps they sell. Just remember, if you don't complain, they'll never fix it.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Just remember, if you don't complain, they'll never fix it.

    We basically agree.

    I just think that pointing out these errors will at the very least expedite the correction of these errors.
  • Do you have the instructions or information on how to do the "ground wire" trick on the navigation system? I have a 2006 B9 Tribeca. Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. TIA
  • Has anyone had any luck w/finding a universal remote to work w/the Tribeca Entertainment/DVD system? I called CarToys and was told only the Subaru dealers will have remotes that would work w/OEM systems. If its a Kenwood system I would think finding a remote programmed to Kenwood systems might work? Thanks in advance.
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