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Jeep Cherokee Grand Cherokee Steering Stability and Suspension

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  • I have a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport that I have had all kinds of problems with. The one that concerns me the most which I also had trouble with is a strange shaking that starts at around 53 mph. Somtimes it wont shake at all other times once it starts it keeps shaking somtimes rather violently then leaves. You can accelerate out of it or apply the break and it will stop. It only happens at around 52-55 mph range. I have had the tired balance and allignment check both were fine. I know that my u-joints are worn but I don't think that those are the problem. I had the same problem with my past 93 Cherokee. If you have any ideas or suggestions please let me know. Also on the 2000 Cherokee I have since I bought it the passenger side back window was stuck wouldn't go up but would go down, I replaced the motor and it did nothing, then the pass. side front window did the same thing. I'm assuming its the main controller on the driver side door but I havn't yet replaced it. Another problem is that the heat/AC setting works only on the highest setting and non of the others. I loved my old Jeep any ideas if the 2000 model Cherokees are known for having a lot of troubles? I'm new to this also wondering how I start my own discussion. Anyone have any input i'd be much appreciative.
    Thanks,
    Eric
  • Yea I have a 2000 Cherokee Sport that is doing the same thing. I thought just like you that it was an allignment problem because the shaking was minor when I test drove it. Now that I own it it shakes around 50-55 somtimes much worse that others and somtimes not at all. I'm contemplating whether I should just try and sell it and get a different one unfountunatly. In the past I owned a 93 Cherokee Sport that also did the same thing. I've tried all the same thing that you have and more but still nothing has helped. The things people have mentioned to me that I have not be able to check is apparently a sensor in the transmition could be causing the shake and I have also been told that the computer may need to be reset. Thats my 2 cents keep me posted if you make on progress on your problem.
    Good Luck,
    Eric
  • I see there are still people out there having the same shaking issues I did with my 2001 Cherokee Sport. Here is an update on my problem. After having put new rims, new tires (balanced & front end aligned) the problem persisted. I took it to Archer Jeep here in Houston and they kept it for almost a week. They replaced the Trak bar all the steering linkages the sway bar and all the bushings...more than $1000 worth of work plus they supposedly road tested it using some kind of vibration test (they gave me a computer readout of the results) They said there was no problems with the driveshaft vibrating, or any other discernable problems but after coming to pick up the Jeep I felt the vibration again as soon as I drove it away from the shop! It was actually WORSE! I'm guessing because now the front end was tight from all the new parts they had put in. I drove it right back to the shop and complained. They wanted to keep it and look further into the problem. After a couple days they called me and wanted to add a whole new slew of parts. I said no...I refused to spend more money on the problem! That kind of problem can go on and on until you've replaced everything under the Jeep and you could still continue to have a problem! My gut feeling is that these Cherokee Jeeps have always had this problem...probably a design flaw. Although I don't think Jeep will ever admit it...it may even be one of the reasons this particular design was discontinued. Anyway I had had enough! I took my Jeep and traded it for a new Kia Sportage which I absolutely am in love with! The ride and feel of the Sportage is soooo much better than the Jeep and it handles like a sports car! Plus a 5 year 50,000 mile warranty! I love the look of the Jeep but they need to get their act together or they will continue to lose good customers to other brands. Best of luck to you guys who continue to have the problem.
  • woody67woody67 Posts: 2
    I just bought a 97 Grand Cherokee Laredo with the same "death shake" at 55-60 mph. I drove for several days without noticing the problem but was generally driving 35-45 on city streets or 70+ on the interstate. The problem first happened at about 50 mph on a gravel road & I thought it was just the washboard surface, but it has since happened numerous times on concrete & asphalt roads. Tonight after earlier experiencing the problem while going to a meeting, I drove mostly 70+ on the way home without a repeat of the vibration. This is clearly a manufacturer defect and needs to be recalled and repaired soon or a class action suit needs to be initiated. This kind of safety problem is not tolerable on a modern-day vehicle.

    Perhaps one of the network news channels needs to be informed, also.
  • bakulajbakulaj Posts: 1
    Two months ago I bought a 98 Grand Cherokee TSi. This car was assembled here in Europe and I experienced the same problem with shaking at the speed between 80 to 100 km per hour. My garage mechanic exchanged lower control arms bushings, but without significant result in better drive. I am affraid which parts should be replaced next time to solve the problem.
  • I know how you feel! I felt the same way after I discovered the shake problem in my Jeep. I wanted Jeep to be accountable. I felt as though I had been sucker punched. No one likes to get a lemon. It drove as smooth as glass at lower speeds and also at speeds over 60 mph but when you got to around 50-55mph it would begin shaking. Mine never shook violently more like the tires were out of balance but annoying nonetheless particularly after I had already spent so much time and money trying to fix it. Mechanics were perplexed but always offered their own solutions...none of which worked. the bottom line is I traded mine off, something I would have never done had it not had that problem. My biggest fear was that whoever ended up buying it would come back to me and complain. But it took me well over a year after I bought it to figure out that the problem was not the tires!
  • pahefner01pahefner01 Posts: 202
    I've read a lot about the Jeep "death wobble" on the Colorado 4X4 forum website. The people on that site are hardcore Jeepers and know how to take a Jeep apart and put it back together. I know I've read they have the solution to the death wobble. I have a 99 Cherokee and have not had this problem. I would suggest that you might want to check out the Colorado 4X4 forum and pose this question to them.
  • tebertsteberts Posts: 18
    I have had the death wobble in 2 different 4 x 4 Jeeps. Both Cherokee's, 94 & 97. Both times it was fixed by changing the trac bar. My mechanic told me that is the problem and he has seen it in many Jeeps. I do live in the Colorado mountains and here are many Jeeps up there.
  • 90xjgirl90xjgirl Posts: 3
    well i'm going threw this same problem with my 90 4inch lifted xj. i just got an alignment done due to heavy duty tie rods! yay! but after the alignment my jeep went into the death wobble. i have the rancho lift kit on there and am very dissapointed with the trac bar. very small and doesn't fit correctly. so I'm assuming thats what the problem is, after doing some major research, many jeep owners (not just cherokee) get the death wobble and start with balancing their tires, if that doesn't help they go straight to replacing the track bar"> with bushings and so on. i will let everyone know if this helps! spread the word about the trac bar it seems to do the trick. :sick: :mad: :confuse:
  • I have a 2000 JGC limited 4.7 it seems to be making wining sounds when i make sharp turns or if i make a 3 point turn. It sounds like the steering pump and the power steering fluid is ok. Any ideas on what is causing the noise and what can be done to fix?
  • nachojeepnachojeep Posts: 5
    I have a 2003 and I'm having the same problem. Any luck fixing it?
  • tuggajbtuggajb Posts: 646
    turn up radio mine has done this sence 35000miles and now have 1600000miles still no prob
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    and now have 1600000miles still no prob

    I suspect you put an extra 0 in there! :)

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  • tuggajbtuggajb Posts: 646
  • mossbackmossback Posts: 2
    I guess it's time to join the crowd. I had not had an issue with my 1987 Cherokee's front end until two weeks ago. Now it shakes violently as the rest of you have described. The car has 190,000 miles and has not been modified, lifted, etc. and has oem shocks. I have noticed that a "repair kit" was installed with an eccentric spacer at the small end of the "A" arm by a previous owner.

    I'm going to get as much information as possible before I get into a chain of unnecessary expenses, since repairs and especially parts are expensive here in Hawaii. After reading all the reports, it looks like the first thing might be to rotate the tires (because it's free) and then look at the track bar. Any discoveries out there??? I can sure use the help.

    Mahalo
  • tebertsteberts Posts: 18
    Mossback,

    I have had this problem with 2 different Jeeps 10 years apart. I am sure the balancing of tires will not help. Do not spend any money except get a new TRAC BAR put in. It will be a minimal cost of about $175-$200. Do not let your mechanic talk you into costly repairs. This will fix the problem. If for some reason it does not then move on to other expensive fixes. Tell them to replace the Trac bar and that should fix it. Please email me and let me know how it works out.
  • texas76texas76 Posts: 1
    ....the ol JGC was driving well, then the steering wheel started to shake, a tiny bit of rough idling and a burning smell coming in the cab. When I put on the brakes, it pulled some to the left. I put on the brakes once pretty good. As I got down the road, it started to drive okay again, but the smell was still in the air somewhat. Help or advice is appreciated. Great forum also!
  • tuggajbtuggajb Posts: 646
    sounds as if you have a capaler hanging up prog left side if so change both sides calapers, roters, pads, use good one N0t OEM
  • mgielowmgielow Posts: 1
    02 JGC 4.0L with 85000 miles. At low speeds the turning effort is quite high -- dangerous if turning is necessary for avoidance manuever. Any thoughts on what problem is?
  • offroadpepoffroadpep Posts: 11
    :sick: A little info from an Old Man, :>)
    Been Jeep`en and off roading for years, and have had a similar problem myself.
    With an old 1996 JGC that I run off road and on road here in Arizona.
    We also pull our Quads with it.
    Brake Pads can ware uneven and cause a brake caliper hang up. Or it can happen for other ware related reasons. This will give the ABS a big fit. It will cause one hell of a
    shimmy in the front end and could happen in the back also.
    In short, pull the fuse out of the ABS to disable it. Then drive it for a wile and see if that cures your problem.
    No worry, the brakes will still work just like in the old days, but if you slam them on hard the wheels will lock up and slide, just like they used to before ABS.
    If this cures the problem, have the brakes repaired or do it yourself if your up to it.
    Best of luck with your problem.
    Cactus “PEP” :>) :)
  • cheapxjcheapxj Posts: 2
    I have driven Jeeps in one form or another for over 30 years i have yet to drive one that does not have the WOD. It is a problem that comes from a straight axle mounted to a vehicle with coil springs. You can decrease the amount of wobble with a trac bar and poly bushing and a good stablizer. If you want to get the least amount of wobble replace the trac bar with one that has hiem joints and use poly bushings on all the control arms. Even with this you could feel a small amount of wobble (like an out of balance tire). My 92 xj has poly control arm bushing and a trac bar with hiem joints and a double stablizer this combination has reduce to wobble to nothing. Just remember it is a jeep thing... If you don't like the quirks they have buy an SUV not a JEEP. The above mentioned mods will make the jeep a little harsh for ride but when you use it like a jeep you can't beat it. Most of all enjoy your Jeep it has a very proud heritage.
  • New here, thought maybe I can find the info I'm looking for here. I have tried other forums and did not get much help. I have a 95 xj sport 4.0 HO with a AX15 manual tranny and need to swap to a AW4 due to bad knees. I found that this is a fairly common swap and from the info I have gathered it does not seem to hard to do. What I could really use is a guide or write up on this swap. Anyone know of one? I think I have figured out all of the hardware I need (i.e. Transmission, Flex plate, Cooler and lines...) what is tripping me up is the electronics, do I need a ECU from a auto equipped xj or does mine already have the connections? Where is it located on mine? If I do need an ECU for the auto, what years can I salvage one from? Will the TCU have to be from the same year/year range as the auto tranny or the same year xj as the ECU? If anyone is knowledgeable on this swap I would love to pick your brain for info.
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  • jeepag24jeepag24 Posts: 1
    My 2001 is doing the same thing (with the shaking) and the same thing with the AC/heat....I've had balance, allignment, bearing stuff, etc. worked on in the past year (dont remember exactly but its been over $800), took it to the dealership this morning and they said I needed 4 new tires and the steering damper replaced?? I don't know....I didn't realize until I starting looking up information about the steering damper thing, how many people's jeep had the same problem....Did you ever get your fixed?
  • tebertsteberts Posts: 18
    I do not know how many times I have to tell guys. TRAC BAR! Do not spend one more nickel until you get a new TRAC BAR! I have this 2 times in my own Jeeps and I know 3 other guys personally. ALL WERE TRAC BARS. It is relatively cheap to fix. Try it!
  • svotsvot Posts: 4
    I brought my 2000 jeep to a mechanic last week with the same problem. He could not figure out what was was wrong. He had suggested replacing the cv joint. I asked which one and he said guess. I told him that this was not a game I want to play. I then brought the vehicle to another mechanic today. He just called me and told me he too does not know what is causing the vibration. I will tell him tomorrow to replace the Trac Bar and let you know if it fixes the problem.

    What I stll do not understand is why does it shake sometimes and not others? Why is it difficult for mechanics to locate this issue? He looked at the trac bar today and did not see any sign of damage.
    Cheers
  • svotsvot Posts: 4
    When I stop at lights I notice that my driving lights shut off and turn on. My RPMS drop to 300-400 at the same time so I suspect it is a electrical drop due to lack of alternator spin. My mechanic replaced the spark plugs and now suggests a fuel injector cleaning. Between the mechanics within the shop they seem to disagree whather this will correct my problem. Has anyone else experinced this problem?
  • tuggajbtuggajb Posts: 646
    before i would spend upwords of 800.00 dollars to find the prob i would change the battery first
    most of the prob can be traced back to battery volts not stable jeeps like stable voltage
  • mikeyp53mikeyp53 Posts: 55
    Here's a good one for you Chrysler owners. My 2004 Grand Cherokee developed a clunking sound in the steering wheel and you could feel it in the wheel. Felt like it was comin up through the suspension. Took it to 3 different dealers over a 2 year period. The third dealer replaced the upper steering wheel head and U joint, cured the problem. Its a silent recall and they will fix if you [non-permissible content removed] enough. No charge as car was still under B to B warranty. One year later, still is OK. Anyone else experience this one?
  • svotsvot Posts: 4
    Okay, finally solved this mystery.... The answer does not lie in the Trac Bar. My story like others... I have taken my vehicle to two well known mechanics.... The last one was Fountain Tire; they diagnosed the two problems that I have; 1st stalling at low rpm when braking and number 2, the shaking at 80km. Number 1- The stalling is likely a misfire. Replaced spark plugs at $200. Number 2 - Shaking, the front end is solid, take it to Jeep to figure out. $100 Diagnostic Charge. Likely a warped rotor. (slightly rotor wobble at high speeds) Better than the previous mechanic Midas, they wanted to replace the cv joints one at a time till the problem fixed itself. I then brought the vehicle to a friends father who teaches mechanics, within five minutes he diagnosed the problems and fixed within the hour. Cost me $50 in parts. #1, rpm loss - throttle body build up, spray air intake cleaner in the throttle body. $5.00 #2, Death Wobble - Steering Stablelizer. Jeep uses a hydraulic stablelizer much like a shock. When it wears out it will have play. THe play allows the wheel to fall into a groove within the roadway and it will bounce back with the broken stablizer and continue to vibrate back and forth due to the fliud within the stablelizer cycling. A working stablizer will pull the vehicle out of the groove in the pavement. Simple removal of two bolts pulls out the stablelizer, if there is play it needs to be replaced. Fixed for $50 cdn.......... In addition the braking vibration was caused by the stablelizer not the roters, wrong again..

    Find yourself an experienced mechanic they are well worth the money....
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