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Hyundai Azera Maintenance and Repair

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  • cwj3620cwj3620 Posts: 14
    Ok, looks to me like you can not access the firewall side spark plugs without pulling the intake manifold!!! Any one see this differently. This may be why Hyundai spec'd a 100,000 mile spark plug change!!
    If this is true I would consider selling. argh
  • cmbairdcmbaird Posts: 2
    Hello, I have changed my plugs on my Azera, went to the Bosch Platinum/Iridium, yes the manifold has to come off, but it "lays over," not to crazy a job, I did it in an afternoon, remember to torque the back bank plugs in, and check for a good cinch. The Bosch plugs made the thing run better, much better combustion. CMB.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    I hope you checked to make sure the Bosch product is compatible with the Azera engine. When I had my Sonata, I wanted to switch to Bosch, but...I was informed they were not the correct plug to use...they burned too hot. I was informed by the service tech that the better plug was the NGK product.

    I did love those Bosch plat +4 plugs in my Camry though...WHEW!!!

    By the way...just how easy is it to remove the manifold???
  • derrelhgreenderrelhgreen Posts: 234
    "my only complaint with the car other than the dark colored oil dip stick is hard to read."

    There is a relatively easy fix for that which works out quite well. :surprise:

    Simply take any solution that contains acid and spread in all over the lower part of your bayonet gauge.

    Leave it on for a short while and then clean it off, and you will have removed that dark
    color, and now you should be able to see where the oil measures much more readily. :D

    HTHs
  • rminorrminor Posts: 40
    Speaking of oil filters I was at Walmart today and checked their little computer for oil filters for my '07 Azera. They listed a Fram CH9999. I checked and there were some on the shelf. Cartridge and "O" rings for $5.48. I talked to the Tire & Lube person and they said they can do the oil changes on the Azera.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    Walmart will do a Mobil 1 full synthetic oil change for about $32., including filter.
  • rminorrminor Posts: 40
    When I've had my oil changed in my Ford diesel truck at Walmart they've charged extra for all oil over 5 qts and filters over ~$2.00 so I think it might be a little higher. Still a good deal for those unable or unwilling to change their own oil.
  • dborthdborth Posts: 474
    Re. 128: I just had the 7,500 mile service at my local dealer.(Ladin Linc./Merc./Hyundai, Thousand Oaks, CA)

    Oil change/filter, fluid top offs, multi point safety check and complimentary car wash for $26.64 otd.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    RE:130
    I doubt that they use Mobil 1 full synthetic.
  • dborthdborth Posts: 474
    RE. 130: I have no clue. Is "Mobil 1 full synthetic" the, or your holy grail for Azera?

    I can only assume since it was done at a Hyundai dealership, the service department used what Korea specifies.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    RE:132
    I have had several contacts with the engineers at Mobil regarding their full synthetic oil. This was initiated because I owned a large, under powered, diesel powered boat which required me to push engines at close to maximum to achieve proper speed. Oil analysis determined considerable metal wear until the introduction of full synthetic oil.
    Not only was the wear reduced, but the fuel economy was improved, proving better efficiency through reduced friction. Different Hyundai dealerships use different oils.
    Hyundai does not specify nor require full synthetic oil, although it, in my opinion, is vastly superior lubricant.
  • derrelhgreenderrelhgreen Posts: 234
    Your opinion is shared by many, especially those of us who have taken the time and trouble to talk to the right people.

    Time does NOT matter.
    I proved that to myself when I left Mobil 1 in my Focus for three and one half years, and when I changed it, I
    took a sample and had it analysised and the report came back that the oil was fine and still okay for service.

    When Mobil 1 first came out, the recommended change interval by Mobil Oil was once a year or 25K miles.

    Mileage . . I am in the process of detemining that.
    Last change was for over 15K and the lab said the oil was still serviceable, so I am going even longer this time.

    I have used synthetics since they first became general available, even prior to Mobil 1, so am
    generally more knowledgeable than the average certified car nut when it comes to their use.

    WalMart does indeed use Mobil 1 and is probably the least expensive way to go.
    I have watched them open quart bottles right off the store shelves so I know that they do in fact pour Mobil 1.

    dborth
    I also doubt that the T.O. dealer is using Mobil 1 when they change your oil, as that price would not cover their parts expenses.

    :surprise:

    :)
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    RE:134
    Walmart offers many oil options in their oil change service area.
    Mobil 1 is not their "standard" oil change.
  • dborthdborth Posts: 474
    Re 134: dborth
    I also doubt that the T.O. dealer is using Mobil 1 when they change your oil, as that price would not cover their parts expenses.


    My original post was informational about what I paid for an "Oil Change" at a Hyundai dealer, compared to what other Azera owners might be paying, you know....sharing information. If the engine wears out because my dealer uses a rope-a-dope oil that falls below the expectations of the Mobile 1 gurus, so be it. With 21 lease payments remaining and the Hyundai warranty, I think I'll be fine.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    RE:134
    Agreed!
    If you lease your car and will turn it in within the warranty period, it makes no sense to buy premium motor oil.
  • alexstorealexstore Posts: 264
    Question for Azera/Sonata owners:
    How many of you take your car to a dealer for scheduled maintenance? Any issues with warranty if you go to a local shop?
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    I change my own oil and brake pads and there has never been any warranty issues. I keep all my receipts and log when I do any type of maintenance to my vehicle. Did the same thing with the '02 Sonata I had over the course of the 4 years I had it. Only time I took it to the dealer was when it was time to get the timing belt replaced along with the spark plugs.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    RE: 138
    If you are able to document Hyundai prescribed maintainence, there are no warranty issues, even if it is a do it yourself program.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Refer to post #141

    (is this better Pat?) :blush:
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Sorry, your post looks a little redundant since I moved it from the other discussion, but the reason I did that is because it includes a little different information than the one you posted here. :)
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Posts: 1,190
    Local dealer is now charging $24.99 for standard oil change using synthetic blend oil.
    Same dealership wants $79.99 for full synthetic oil change.
    As you can buy a case of Mobil 1 full synthetic for under $30.00, it seems like quite a rip off.
  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    :surprise: You think? It would seem rip off would be putting it mildly!!!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,525
    Not necessarily. If you timed how long it takes to drive your car on a lift, drain the oil, fill it, install a new filter, check everything, and drive off, and you calculate that amount of time with the dealer's hourly labor rate, I bet it's a correct charge.

    The problem is that the dealer is doing the standard oil change at an artificially low price to get you in the door. Once on a lift, he can sell you more stuff.

    Why doesn't he also discount the synthetic oil change to an artificial "lost leader"?

    I dunno, seems dumb.

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  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Yeah...IF...it actually took that long. I can change my oil in less than 30 mins. from beginning to end. I mean...if that is the case, they are wrongly charging everyone as it is not a hour's worth of labor being done for an oil change.

    Here in the DC area, the oil change is being done for $35. Not sure how much of a difference it is if you ask for synthetic oil. Never bothered to ask since I do my own.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,525
    Oh I bet your dealer's hourly rate is at least $100, so $50 + the synthetic oil and filter sounds just about correct, doesn't it?

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  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Actually...the hourly rate here is like $75/hr.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,525
    at a DEALER? Really? You must live in a rural area I'd guess.

    In California it's $135--160 (ouch!).

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  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Yes...really and no, it's not a rural area, I live in the DC Metro area.

    Sure glad I don't live in CA any more! LOL
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,525
    Ah, you'll change your tune when the humidity kicks in!

    Hard to believe it's that cheap in a big metro area what with workers' bennies and overhead. Interesting. Is it a very small dealership, like a mom and pop? Maybe I just don't visit Hyundai dealerships enough in general. They may charge less.

    ANYWAY...the difference in price between your dealer's regular and synthetic oil changes doesn't make any sense. He should change that and bring them into some sort of rational proportion.

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  • allmet33allmet33 Posts: 3,557
    Okay...I just called the dealership and the price for a regular oil change on my Azera is $41. Guess it's more than the others since it uses the canister type filter. Anyway, a change with synthetic oil is $55. So even at that price...it's a rip off!
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