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Toyota Tundra Owner Experiences

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  • I took a guess what trailer size you pulled.
  • ken0ken0 Posts: 29
    515 of 571 I towed 3500 lbs 3000 miles by mike77000 Dec 30, 2000 (12:51 am)
    I towed a trailer with my Tundra from NY to LA and kept the speed over 75 in the rural areas. In some places I hit 100 without any problems. The truck is strong and stable. In the rockies I could hold 65 up any mountain on I70.

    Since I didn't know about this chat line untl this month I just read this Mike - are you kidding or what? If you actually did that even with out getting a ticket , I'm sure glad I was way down in Texas at the time
  • I've been told by the "guys" in Salisbury, Maryland that Toyota does NOT make a Tundra 4x4, regular cab, long bed any longer. They could only find them in the 2000 model year. Also, they wanted to charge me $23,200 for the truck and another $300 to bring it in from WV. hats up with this? Are these guys serious or just morons that don't know what they are selling?

    I like the TRD 4x4... but the extended cab back seat room is VERY limited and I want a FULL SIZE BED.... not that short bed. Had that with a Z71 Chewy and could never haul that much with it.

    Can someone set my record straight please?

    Thank you!

    TGinOC
  • According to edmunds, they dropped it. However, I have a 2001 Tundra brochure that has it in there. Kelly Blue Book says there is one, too.

    I have only seen one ever in existence and it was a 2000 model.

    I agree with you wanting a regular cab longbed because that is what I got.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    After a long absence from the Tundra topics I'm going to give it another try. I stopped posting in the Tundra topics because of the personal attacks and general level of silliness that used to abound here. From reading the last month's worth of posts, I can see a dramatic improvement.

    Now Ken, you have an interesting question that people are missing the particular problem you have. The Tundra is a fantastic tow vehicle and requires nothing more than a hitch and wiring added to it in order to get up to its capacity. There are no options for different rear end ratios and the transmission cooler is standard.

    The problem you have is payload with a 5th wheel. Unlike conventional trailers, you put a huge amount of weight on the rear axle. This counts against your payload capacity. Typical tongue weight on a 5000 pound trailer is 350 to 500 pounds and that doesn't hurt you much with a 1500 (roughly) pound payload rating.

    With the 5th wheel, your "tongue" weight can easily exceed 1000 pounds. This means that you can't have more than 500 pounds worth of people and gear in the truck. This is why most 5th wheel trailers are hauled with a 3/4 or 1 ton truck which Toyota does not make.

    I currently tow a 4200 pound boat and am very pleased with how it handles. Braking is solid, sway is minimal and acceleration is great. I'd be a bit leery about a 5th wheel on it though unless I took it to a company who could modify the thing to handle it.
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    Welcome back - its good to have a Toyota salespersons perspective on some of these questions.

    What about Toyota dropping the 4x4 reg cab long bed? Both people who bought them want to know (lol). Are they coming out with a X-cab long bed? Toyota could sell maybe 10 of those per year (if they came with a $6,000 rebate).
  • I agree that sometimes thingss get silly on these boards, but we'll let that be.
    I was wondering if you know of Toyota's plans for 2002 Tundras. Will a Access Cab long bed be available? Will we be able to get Sequoia options like sunroof, compass, outside temp, and heated mirrors?
  • grazkgrazk Posts: 18
    I miss the utility of having a truck, so I am thinking about getting a Tundra later this year. I love the look, feel, quality, and ride of the Tundra. I believe it is the best truck out there for me (I am not comfortable with large trucks...too unwieldy). My problem is whether I should get a 4x4 with TRD package or not. Does the 4x4 w/TRD have MUCH better traction than a 2-wheel drive? Is the TRD worth getting also? I like vehicles that handle well and so I was leaning towards a 2-wheel drive (I need a truck, so please don't tell me to buy a sports car), but my boyfriend recommends a 4x4. I have driven both for short test drives and they seem to have the same acceleration. The 2-wheel drive handles a bit better than the 4x4, so I wanted to know whether it was worth the decreased handling ability to get the security of 4-wheel drive. I live in the Southeast. The roads are crappy and the people down here can't drive when the weather is bad (Yes, I am from the North and I don't know why the milk and bread disappears so quickly when the weather people mention the word snow :) ).

    I currently own a 2001 BMW 330ci and I have owned a 1999 Dodge Dakota R/T which I enjoyed driving, it handled very well for a truck. Unfortunately, the truck had a few quality issues and one very big towing issue. Dodge offered a Dakota R/T buyback because of the towing discrepancy (being told your truck can tow 6400 lbs and then finding out that it is only rated for 2000 lbs is a pretty big surprise). Anyways, I enjoy vehicles that handle well. So now you know how much I value handling. I would like the security that a 4x4 offers even though I would use it only about 4 or 5 times a year. I am one of those people who buy a feature "just in case". Is the 4x4 worth the tradeoff? Is the 4x4 worth the $3000 difference?

    Thank you for any help you can give me.
  • bamatundrabamatundra Posts: 1,583
    I would go for the 4X4. I own a SR5 access cab 4wd and I love it. I did not opt for the offroad suspension. A friend of mine has the same truck with TRD suspension. When I rode in it - I was amazed - I could tell very little difference in ride. I think that the Bilstein shocks and progressive wound front springs help the handling. If I were you - I would drive both.

    I also opted for the ABS. It works great! All my stops are straight and well controlled regardless of the road conditions.

    The 4WD in combination with the ABS make the Tundra an amazingly competent snow vehicle. You will be glad you have it the first time it snows. 4WD trucks also have better resale.

    A full size pickup will never handle as well as your beemer of course, but I don't think you will be disappointed with the Tundra.
  • I have the TRD LTD 4X4 with ABS, bedliner, bedbars, trailer hitch, leather, woodgrain. The best handling vehicle I've owned, (other than a motorcycle),is a 1997 Honda Accord. NO truck is anywhere near that, especially on a banked freeway curve or a twisty, hilly country road. The Tundra with TRD has progressive-rate front springs which ride gently for the first part of travel and get very stiff for the last part of travel. These are similiar to aftermarket off-road springs available for most trucks. The handling provided by Bilstein shocks is a gentle ride when confronted with smooth bumps or undulations and a very damped, (stiff), ride over sharp bumps. This combines for a smooth ride on the highway, and a smooth ride at high speeds, (25 mph), over ditches or very harsh terrain. If you ever go off-road, the Tundra TRD is already equipped with a tuned suspension which will make it ride better than any similiar stock vehicle. How does that translate to the highway? If you enter a curve gently the TRD will lean and appear to have too soft suspension to handle quickly, but if you get more agressive the truck doesn't lean as much because of the design of the Bilstein's. Read about those shocks to understand why that is true. The non-TRD Tundra doesn't have progressive rate springs or Bilstein's and though the two have similiar ride, the handling is quite different.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Sorry about the delay in responding. I must have goofed on the subscription function.

    As far as I know, the 2002 will be pretty much unchanged. Current rumor is that we will have a second, more powerful V8 coming within the next two years but I have no details. I'll post them here when I lean more.

    I also suspect we will have a double cab but that is only a guess and not something I've heard from official sources. I would doubt we will get a longer frame before the new engine is out.
  • Tginoc, they do build a 4x4 Regular cab Tundra. I have sold 4 of them since 2001 models were built so far. I order build them for folks and they arrive within about 90 days. It can be done.

    Dianne
    (the same Dianne with tundrasolutions.com)
  • rooster9rooster9 Posts: 239
    I have a question about the Tundra's stainless steel exhaust. How come it rusts? I do know about the different grades of stainless. A stainless with a grade such as 430, is magnetic and will rust. A 304 grade is not magnetic and won't rust. Does the Tundra have the higher grade stainless? Mine is rusting, but I don't blame it for all the salt and water it gets hit with. For a comparison, I looked at a brand new 2001 Ford F-250 dually at the local Ford dealer today. It had a nice price tag of $41,900. I looked at the exhaust and it was rusting all over. Just wondering.
  • amyg1amyg1 Posts: 1
    I have tentatively worked out a deal to purchase a 2000 Tundra V8 4x4 with 6,000 miles for $24,300.00. This is more than Edmunds guide says I should pay but significantly less than the prices I am seeing in the classifieds. What do you think of the price? I am also trading in a 1990 4 Runner V4 4x4 with 193,000 miles and significant rust. I just had to put $1000 in it to replace the rear brake line. The same dealer wants to give me $900.00 as trade in on the Tundra. This is less than Edmunds trade-in amount when I entered info on the poor condition and high miles. What do you think of the trade-in amount? I am signing papers on Wednesday and would appreciate feedback from anybody before then. amyg1
  • duckcallerduckcaller Posts: 107
    I traded a 1990 4Runner with 98,000 miles on it for a 2000 Tundra - they gave me 7,000 on the trade in, but my 4Runner was a V6, loaded and in perfect condition. I "negotiated" (if you can call it that) a final price of 28,750 for my 2000 Tundra V8 Limited 4x4 with a small handful of options. Tundras just don't have a lot of negotiating room because the novelty is still there.

    900 dollars seems low to me unless the 4Runner is in terrible shape - though you did say "V-4" and I'd assume it was a 4x2. 24,300 seems to be a reasonable (not great) price on the Tundra IF it's free of all dings, scratches, etc... that is, IF it looks like new.

    900 dollars is not worth messing around with the dealer over (in terms of a monthly payment). You could certainly do better selling it yourself - take your time and somebody would probably give you more.

    I'd say close the deal on the Tundra and sell the 4Runner yourself.
  • I agree with duckcaller -- selling yourself will always net you more, but it sounds like he lowballed you even more than normal. Kelley book trade-in value ought to be at least $2000. If you can't get him up, sell it yourself.

    However, look around and see if you can still find a NEW 2000 Tundra. I just bought a new 2000 V8 4x4 Tundra LTD for $26.5K (MSRP $31.2K). I just made him an offer assuming $2200 depreciation ($1500 per year) taken from invoice price (approx $28K).

    For some good car buying/selling advice, visit www.fightingchance.com
  • frankno1frankno1 Posts: 68
    Was over at the Toyota dealer this morning getting a refund on my 75,000 mile warranty policy and was in the business offfice talking to the accountants. I told them I did not want to trade my Tundra off for a larger truck but it would not pull a reasonable size trailer (7000#). He told me I should have waited because Toyota was coming out with a one-ton diesel this next year. Well this was news to me and I have looked all over this internet for Toyota upgrades and have never found one. Its to late now as I had already taken delivery on a F250 Ford with a V10. Sometime being secretive can also hurt you.
    I don't know if what he told me was true but it sounded good. Keep on trucking.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    The dealer was messing with you. I know that Toyota is developing a larger gas V8 which should be out in about 2 years but have heard nothing about a diesel. I also asked my district manager about a 3/4 ton and he hasn't heard anything about that, but I wouldn't rule it out with the bigger engine.
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    From what I have read here on Edmunds many Tundra owners got a better deal than the one you are considering on a new truck. (or so they claim).

    If you are financing the deal be careful - the interest rate on a used car (truck) loan will be higher than the rate on a new truck loan. Which means you could pay more for a new one and your payment would be about the same. Based on the way you are being treated I would guess they will also try to screw you on the interest rate.

    Why does someone buy a new truck and then trade it in after only 6,000 miles? Always makes me wonder. Was it a lemon? Did it have the shake problem? or maybe the owner could not afford the payments. The only way I would buy a truck with 6,000 miles is if the deal was very good, for the price you are being ask to pay you may as well get a new one.
  • horsegalhorsegal Posts: 1
    I am interested in buying a Tundra. I was planning on getting a Ford truck, but my husband (my mechanic) wants me to get a Toyota. I am worried about towing my 2 horse trailer with 2 horses with a Tundra. Have been driving my 3/4 ton Chevy since 1985, but need a new truck now! Most of the time I drive on country roads without towing, but need to tow up to the mountains in summer. Any ideas from horse people?
  • bamatundrabamatundra Posts: 1,583
    The Tundra will pull a 7000 lb load as well as any other 1/2 ton pickup. It sounds like you really wanted a 3/4 ton.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    The Tundra will handle a 2 horse trailer quite well. It isn't a 3/4 ton truck and shouldn't be used for one but I suspect your total trailer weight should come in under 5000 pounds and the 1/2 ton Tundra will handle that with no problems. The Tundra should also be much more comfortable during your normal driving without the trailer.
  • frankno1frankno1 Posts: 68
    I really wanted a Tundra and bought one, but what I really needed was a 3/4 or 1 ton you are right. I loved the Tundra because of the smooth engine quiet and comfortable ride and no maintenance problems. But GVCR was 11,800 lbs and right now I am bumping 14,500 lbs and I decided there wasn't any use in destroying a perfectly good truck by overloading and burning it out. Pleasant dreams to all and to all a good night. Woops is not XMAS yet.
  • Over 500 posts- wow... I am looking to buy a '01 Tundra 4x4 SR5 with convenience package. Some one back me up, or set me straight. I don't plan on towing much or hauling tons of stuff. Just your normal day to day driving to work and weekend homeowner's chores. TRD package worth anything? Am I going down the right path? Tundra owners let me know and tell me what sold you! Other sites out there to help?
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    I personally like the TRD package, even if you are not doing any off roading. I lust think you get better tires and shocks, plus the fog lights are nice.

    I'll give you one other site to check out but a word of caution is in order. www.tundrasolutions.com is a great source for Tundra owners and shoppers. There are hundreds of people who post there who are very happy with their trucks. There are a few who are not. Even some of the happy ones have had a few problems. This site is a resource for Tundra owners to resolve some of those problems.
  • markg92markg92 Posts: 21
    You'll be happy with any of the 1/2 tons out there, at least initially. If you are concerned about your truck lasting more than 3 years, most discussion groups place Dodge dead last, followed in order by GM, and Ford, with Toyota at the top. I've owned them all and I agree. Buy yourself a Tundra TRD -- you'll be very happy with it.
  • toddstocktoddstock Posts: 268
    I bought a brand new 2000 Tundra 4x4 V-8 Access Cab... Has bedliner, tape and cd player, running boards, the alloy wheels, automatic everything, sliding rear window, upgraded battery,heater.... Doesnt have the TRD... I traded in my 1999 Honda Odyssey with 30k on it for 25,800... I only paid 26,500 for it in 99, but I paid the full MSRP of 29,500 for the truck.. Think that was a good deal? I am very happy with it... I have 900 miles on it and I got almost 19mpg... Does anyone that has gotten a bed cover for it have any recommendation's... Not sure if I should go hard or soft, or what brand to get... Any idea's would be greatly appreciated.. Also, wanted to get a bug guard for it, but the toyota one looks really crappy on it... Anyone find a bug guard you like that look's good on it? TIA
  • I am considering buying a 5 speed v6 Tundra access cab. Anyone have one? Happy? How many miles per gallon?
  • bamatundrabamatundra Posts: 1,583
    I would suggest getting the V8 auto. The price difference in the two trucks is not that much, the resale will be better, and if you later decide you need more payload/towing capacity - you will be set.

    The V8 runs like a watch, is torquey and runs like a bat out of He**. You will not be disappointed.
  • tundradudetundradude Posts: 588
    "I am considering buying a 5 speed v6 Tundra access cab. Anyone have one? Happy? How many miles per gallon?"

    I have a 5 speed regular cab. It averages between 16 to 20 miles to a gallon. It averages 11.5 to 13.8 when towing my camping trailer. The price difference is close between the V6 and the V8 access cab models as bamatundra said above. However, if you want the manual, I would get the V6. If you plan to tow(over 4800 lbs.)in the future, I would spend the extra money and get the V8. However, if extreme towing is not in your future, I would get the V6. You may have a slight problem in finding one though. My V6 model was a no-brainer when I bought mine in July 99. I paid 16,300 for it.
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