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Toyota Matrix Tire/Wheel Questions

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  • penyokpenyok Posts: 2
    Rocky101
    Will this repair void the balance of the warranty? Is there a fix for the back? I have a 2006 matrix xr fwd with 14000miles on it and have the same problem as the other folks. The dealer says continental tires are problem, but they say it is alignment problem. Thanks for your info and help.
    penyok
  • We have two 2005 Matrixes with Continental tires and both sets were replaced at less than 15k with Yokohamas. With 35 to 40k on both cars, they seem to be doing fine.

    Thanks,
    Chris
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    Everyone with the Continentals had problems and had to replace them super-early, everyone with the Goodyears and other replacement brands made out fine. Could it be the tires and not the car?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • skc51skc51 Posts: 4
    Similar problem to Rocky101. Have a 2006 Matrix XR and noticed noise about 7K miles. Tires were rotated at 5K miles and again at 10K miles. After second rotation noise really became obvious. Replaced tires at 11,400 miles on a car that was 14 months old. Tires wearing on the inside. Tried 3 tire dealers as well as the Toyota Dealer where I got the car. No one ever saw this problem before....as well as the this car has a sporty suspension and is hard on tires. Put a set of Continental tires back on the car and than took it to a shop that specializes in suspensions and alignments. They installed a set of camber adjusting bolts and while the car was within the factory specs, they backed off of the negative camber. Just like Rocky101 the car now needs less gas pedal to keep it moving and there is no noise. Amazing! The shop I had the work done is working with me and wants me to bring it back in later this year to see if anymore adjustments are needed. They also told me any car with this type of front suspension will be prone to these problems - sadly Toyota can not stand behind their warranty or their reputation. This was my first and last Toyota. Cost was $216 including parts and labor. Oh - and a new set of tires from America's Tire for $400. Anyway there is nothing wrong with Continental Tires, the struts or any of the other stuff folks are being told. This is just a quality control problem and while not an extreme safety issue a pain in the butt for owners who have to work with an unresponsive and uncaring automobile company and their dealerships. If anyone needs the settings where the shop set my tires, hit me up and I will send them to you. Not sure yet, if this is where they need to be however I can feel and hear the difference right now.

    Steve
  • skc51skc51 Posts: 4
    You can get a shim installed on the back wheels to adjust the camber. If you do this, make sure you take it somewhere that specializes in alignments and suspensions. I had similar problems however I did the front end since the back end was okay. The shims are not expensive however you need to have someone who knows what they are doing to get this done correctly.

    Steve
  • I just bought my XR Matrix 07 in December. Up to a month or so ago everything was fine with the car. Then the tire pressure light when up I tried to reset (as the manual indicates)but it kept coming back on. Finally I took it to a tire shop to get it checked out they told me that the tires were low. About 3 days later the indicator light came back up again.

    This time I took it to the dealer as I was also due for maintenance so they rotated the tires. They also set they set the pressure on the tires (something like that) and reset the little light that kept going on. Well, about a week later the light comes up and I did nothing about it until my front tire became totally flat. Ok so it was due to a nail in the tire :blush: Hopefully that is it. I have less than 5K on this car.

    Still, I'm going to keep a close eye on the tires because I've read too many "horror stories" (as my sister called it) regarding tires and Matrixes. :confuse:


    Anyone have problems with 07 Matrix I have only read about previous models.
  • Am also having the same problem as Rocky101. 2006 Matrix XR with 17,000 miles has severe cupping on inside of all four tires. Am beginning the tedious process of trying to convince Toyota that the problem is the car and not the
    Continental Tires. Very much appreciate reading about the experiences of others and hope that it will shortcut the arguments with Toyota.

    Can you please send me the settings you ended up with? Thanks.

    Carey
  • Rocky101,

    I have a 06 matrix with the same tire wear issue.
    I have conties on my car
    Where can I get teh kit to fix the rears

    Appreciate your help bro

    Michael
  • wmconewmcone Posts: 2
    Steve Had the same problem with my 06 Matrix XR Short life with the Continental tires and very noisy after 9000 mi.I ran them to 25000. But interested in settings so I do not wear my new tires out. WmCone
  • Steve:
    Can you supply me with the settings that the shop set your tires. I also have a 06 Matrix XR FWD and I replaced my Contenentals at 18K. Thanks.

    Bill
  • Hi,

    I'm happy/unhappy owner of Matrix 2006 with tire/alignment problem/story. Big disappointment with Toyota Motor Company and local Toyota Dealers - they do nothing. Finally I order front&rear camber kit and I setup an appointment to next week.
    Is this solution really works?
    The factory aligment setting are ok?
    Do I need any corrections to factory settings?
    Is the Matrix still driving well after all setup?
    Could You give me answer by my email?

    Thanks

    Paul
    apmidura@gazeta.pl
  • Hi Guys,

    Our Matrix now has 29,000+ miles, 15,000 on the Yokamaha tires. The original tires lasted less than 15,000. Yes, Toyota was ABSOLUTELY no help. Three times in the shop, no resolution.

    I have rotated the tires 3x since installing the new tires, with no excessive wear or other problems. The shop used the factory camber and toe settings. I replaced only the front camber bolts. I do have a minor pull to the left. May be the rear end geometry, but I have not had the rear aligned yet.
  • Rocky: is your Matrix FWD or AWD?
  • skc51skc51 Posts: 4
    Hi,

    Sorry for the late reply, I do not always check this stie. Installed two 17mm EZ CAM XR adjusting bolts, one on each front wheel. Here are the results:

    Initial Final

    Caster Left 3.12º 2.98º
    Right 2.94º 2.93º
    Camber Left -0.91º -0.44º
    Right -0.78º -0.31º
    Toe Left -0.06º 0.00º
    Right -0.19º 0.02º
    Total -0.25º 0.02º

    Not 100% sure if this has solved the problem since I only have about 2,500 miles on the new tires, no adjustments were made to the rear wheels however if I see any more wear problems, the car will go.

    Steve
  • skc51skc51 Posts: 4
    Hi,

    Sorry for the late reply, I do not always check this stie. Installed two 17mm EZ CAM XR adjusting bolts, one on each front wheel. Here are the results:

    Initial Final

    Caster Left 3.12º 2.98º
    Right 2.94º 2.93º
    Camber Left -0.91º -0.44º
    Right -0.78º -0.31º
    Toe Left -0.06º 0.00º
    Right -0.19º 0.02º
    Total -0.25º 0.02º

    Not 100% sure if this has solved the problem since I only have about 2,500 miles on the new tires, no adjustments were made to the rear wheels however if I see any more wear problems, the car will go.

    Steve
  • careypcareyp Posts: 2
    At 15,000 miles, had severe cupping on inside of all four tires. Although Toyota has taken no responsibility for the problem, my dealer in San Bruno, CA has helped out of "good will". The front end is apparently ok. The back end has been realigned with shims. All four tires have been replaced at the dealer's expense.

    Will monitor wear closely.
  • 06 Matrix with alloy wheels. (Has anyone had this problem with steel wheels?) At 5,000 slight shimmy in the steering wheel after rotation. After the 10,000 mile rotation it was a little worse. By 12,000 miles I was noticing the noise and was thinking they should insulate the car better. Took it to dealer early at 14,000 miles and they found all 4 tires cupped bad enough they needed replaced. They charged me for 2 and gave me 2 Yokahama tires checked the alignment that needed only slight adjustment. They blamed the Continental tires but I suspect the new tires will do the same. Will post again sometime after I have 5,000 miles or more on them.
  • I filed a report with nhtsa on the tires. If enough complaints get filed with the transportation department they might do something. It takes a little while to file a complaint and you need to have vehicle info at hand but worth it. (VIN number, mileage, dealer information. It is Continental tire of North America if you had Continentals,- it asks).
    Here is the web site address for filing a complaint:

    www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm
  • louylouy Posts: 2
    Has anyone mentioned TSB DL002-07 that deals "abnormal noise from rear differential' on 06 AWD Matrix?
    Quote "The source of the noise may be damaged transmission coupling assembly and 2 ball bearing assemblies."
    Wonder this has anything to do with the premature wearing out of tires?
  • I see Toyota Matrix all over- I plan to print links to this site and to the suggested sites for retribution and leave them under the wipers of each Matrix I see. Perhaps this way we can alert others to the common issue we are having. I just found this because I plan to purchase new tires tomorrow after being told for the past year that there is no problem with my car...yada yada.. bottom line-they are in denial at the dealership service. I will re-read all of the posts and take the same action...
    I'll post my print text once its created so that you can re-create the same and pass them out too-
    Im fired up, they made me feel like I was crazy
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