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2008 Cadillac CTS

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  • nextone1nextone1 Posts: 15
    What city and dealer?
  • jblaze13jblaze13 Posts: 152
    orland park, illinois. rizza.
  • fueledupfueledup Posts: 64
    just placed order for 08' cts pretty much loaded with msrp of apprx $ 46,000. paid $ 44,000.
  • jpstax1jpstax1 Posts: 197
    I ordered a 2008 LaCrosse Super last month and was told by my dealer to expect manufacturer to customer incentives, even though the car is a brand new model that Buick thinks will be a pretty good seller. He was right because Edmunds is showing a $1000 Cash to Customer rebate that's good until 9/4/07. Yes!!!

    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2008/buick/lacrosse/100900863/incentives.html
  • jpennjpenn Posts: 68
    Hey Fueledup,

    Can you give us an idea of what "pretty much loaded" is? I think 46 for 44 isn't bad if it really is a loaded CTS.
  • Camargo Cadillac somehow ended up with three new CTS's, and ONE brochure. I pulled in, got behind the wheel, didn't have time to drive it, damn!

    CTS is very attractive, darn near beautiful.

    I configured two of them IDENTICALLY, as I would order it:

    1. DI engine $48,240
    2. "regular" engine $47,240.

    This is a no brainer.

    I picked BlackCherry, Cashmere leather, DI engine, AWD, Premium, Performance tire/wheel upgrade and a tick here and there on the option sheet. Zipped up to about $12K of options in no time.

    There are about 20 of them in the parking lot of the country club that adjoins my subdivision here in sub-urban Cincinnati -- alongside Mercedes, BMW's and last year's CTS-v's.

    Dealer training starts on Monday and the cars are completely approachable, not guarded -- so I have pretty much examined the testers in addition to the ones at the dealership.

    The interior "fit and finish" and the trout mouth front grill, reminds me of the C6 Audi A6's -- only chisled and square jawed rather than rounded.

    For the MSRP, the Cadillac would seem to be a winner.

    I'll say a little Bluetooth prayer since I can wait 8 months (longer if I keep the lease payments up after the contract end.)
  • nextone1nextone1 Posts: 15
    How about grabbing some photos and posting them? Please!
  • I placed my order in early June for a loaded CTS.

    It was built on July 30th and was shipped last Tuesday. (All CTS's were held at the factory until at least Aug 8th when they began shipping them) I expect mine to arrive at the dealership next weekend, give or take a day or two.

    I ordered every option expect all wheel drive and the summer tire performance package. Everything else, including white diamond paint came to $46,770. I got this bought for $44,440.

    I also had the unique opportunity to tour the Lansing, MI assembly plant where most Cadillacs are made, and actually saw my car being built. It was amazing. I saw every color of the CTS's as they were being built. I even got to drive one around the factory grounds. I've even got photos of it as it is being produced. I cant wait to get mine next week!

    My only disappointment is that the "aftermarket" bluetooth that appears to be available is some retrofit thing that will look pretty tacky when its installed. They cut a hole in the overhead console and insert a speaker the "kind of" matches the interior. It doesnt look like it integrates with the audio system, etc.. I'll probably pass on the aftermarket and "hope" that when a built in option is available, I can retrofit the electronics in the car to accomodate Bluetooth at that time.

    I'll post my impression once I have it for a couple days.

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  • nextone1nextone1 Posts: 15
    Thanks! That's like the one I ordered--white diamond with the 18 in sport wheels.
  • When do you get yours?

    Mine should come in this week. It was ordered with almost all options but it was built without the wood steering wheel or shift knob because they were not in stock.
  • puckspucks Posts: 47
    Did any of you guys who already ordered look into an extended GMPP warranty? Just curious what they are going for on an 08.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    LaCrosse Super has an invoice of $29,558? Oh wow - that's going to be a silly ride. With 300HP, it's a poor man's CTS(first gen CTS suspension and brakes, btw).
  • fueledupfueledup Posts: 64
    pretty much loaded, premium lux pck, fe3, auto,blue chip,no spare, no awd. msrp 45,938, paid 44,000 no dealer fees.
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,514
    "LaCrosse Super has an invoice of $29,558? Oh wow - that's going to be a silly ride. With 300HP, it's a poor man's CTS(first gen CTS suspension and brakes, btw). "

    Um.
    No.
    LaCrosse = FWD.
    And no relation to the 1st gen CTS.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,738
    Same power(well, more, actually), same suspension, roughly the same size and weight.

    It's a lot like the Lecerne - a lower cost FWD version of the DTS. IF you can live with FWD intead of RWD, it's a good car for not a lot of money.
  • Buicks are the same as Cadillac's??? The Lucerne and LaCrosse have NOTHING in common with the Cadillac's. No drivetrain, suspension, etc... They are completely different vehicles.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    actually the 3.6 in the lacrosse is a detuned version of the CTS' engine. The Lucerne has LOTS in common with the DTS as I'm sure you know. The Lucerne uses the same northstar in the DTS that used to be in the old STS and ETC.

    The Lacrosse isnt as sporty as the CTS but it is of similar size and weight and costs less.
  • I am spoiled. I've gone beyond my "best if used by date," I know this.

    But for Pity's Sake (as my mom used to say) is it too much to ask of the dealership to have some avenue into product information beyond the brochure?

    Here is why I am spoiled: after buying Audis and a couple of VW's and two BMW's since 1976, I expect the dealership to be "full of car guys" (men and women) in the sales department, in sales management and even at the service management area.

    I ask, "what, when, how much, how does it work, what does it look like, how does it drive, etc etc etc," at either the Bimmer or Audi store here in River City, and I literally get a chorus of "pick me, pick me, I know the answer" from the sales and management of the dealership.

    The service writer at the BMW store is an absolute S4 fan and also a BMW 335i fan and can quote chapter and verse the various configurations.

    The head BMW sales rep seems quite taken with A8's and the junior Audi sales reps keeps up on EVERYTHING so it seems.

    Stump the German Car dealers is not a game to play, unless you want to lose, or so it seems.

    Point is, I ask some questions of the Cadillac dealer pertaining to combinations and permutations of the new CTS -- and the rep didn't know. Indeed, none of the reps seem to know much about their products.

    I would ask things pertaining to features I would hope are "standard normal" questions and the helpful response was "I'll look into that."

    Anyway, where was I?

    Oh yea -- I read SOMEWHERE that the "oversight" regarding Bluetooth wasn't really an oversight at all, and in fact the Cadillacs bound for Europe WOULD have factory Bluetooth and that commencing in month 7, the US cars would have it.

    Was I dreaming? Where is or was this written and is the source credible?

    The folks at the dealer are very pleasant and in terms of knowing the TRANSACTION are, no doubt, fine.

    They seem to know very little about the CARS they sell however.

    Same thing happens at Best Buy and Circuit City, no one seems to know a damn thing about the stuff they sell either.

    "Just once. . . ."

    Bye-gones. :surprise:
  • nextone1nextone1 Posts: 15
    6-8 weeks. Just ordered it on the 14th.
  • nextone1nextone1 Posts: 15
    I agree 100% I had this same experience with my dealer, explaining why the salesman needs to be much more informed about their product. But they say they're used to the old-time customer just pointing and saying: "I want that one." So I explained why I wanted a CTS over a BMW, a Mercedes, or an STS. Shouldn't it be the other way around? While GM obviously doesn't provide nor require extensive product education, a salesman can learn a lot by reading the internet and reading the car mags. Heck, just read the owner's manual! If GM is going to compete with the imports, it's got to compete on the showroom floor and provide a complete buying experience. Folks aren't just buying a car; they're buying an experience. That said, I'd probably starve as a car salesman.
  • GM announced today a $500 DEALER rebate on the 2008 CTS. A well informed shopper should be able to get that passed along to them.
  • puckspucks Posts: 47
    What does dealer rebate mean? It is not announced to the public and pads the dealer's profit margin assuming the public doesn't know about it? Where did you find the news and when is the rebate in effect until?

    Thanks.
  • 150mphclub150mphclub Posts: 317
    In the long run, a people person will sell many more cars than a techie. Techies have trouble making a living selling cars. So the techie you want to talk to will probably be at the bottom of the sales charts month after month. Not good for the techie or the dealer.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,256
    This is sadly reminiscent of what Lincoln LS enthusiasts had to deal with. Granted, 95-99% of the people who ended up driving an LS had no clue which two wheels drove the car, but for the ones who did know (& care, passionately), it was crystal clear that the dealer network had not a clue.

    Lincoln did a big training thing prior to the rollout of the car & required that each dealership had at least one "specialist" who was supposed to know the LS inside-out, as well as the competition. In the course of many visits at several dealers back in '00, I ran into only one of these guys, and he was good. The others spent all their time trying to talk me out of ordering a car with a manual transmission.

    So far, the CTS seems to have avoided the LS's fate, but tales like yours make me wonder if it's all just a matter of time. The people who actually care about a car like the CTS have several other choices, and having a dealer that understands "car people" is certainly part of the equation. It's largely why I'd never consider a CTS. Once is enough.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    autoblog has a very positive review posted today.
  • belvbelv Posts: 8
    Having seen this car in person I have to admit I was stunned by it, it's simply beautiful. I'm waiting for the 2.9 liter diesel that is to arrive in the U. S. in 2010. I might buy two of them, one to drive and one to put in storage so I can sell at barret jackson in fourty years for millions.
  • There are two kinds of rebates: consumer rebates direct to the car buyer and dealer rebates that may, or may not be, passed along to the consumer.

    My CTS is due to be delivered this week and my dealer called to let me know he will be dropping our agreed upon price by $500 because GM just announced $500 dealer cash on the vehicle.

    I havent seen it in print anywhere, but since my purchase price just dropped, I have to think its accurate!
  • puckspucks Posts: 47
    Thanks and good luck with the car. I actually found the rebate on Edmunds. Expires on 9/4. That's about the time I figure to be placing my order. Maybe they'll be something going on when mine comes in, but I doubt it.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,256
    "I'm waiting for the 2.9 liter diesel that is to arrive . . ."

    Is this diesel an engine that's been proven elsewhere in the world? If so, in what vehicles? GM is much of why most Americans think diesel engines in cars are horrible, thanks to the offerings in the late 70's & early 80's.
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