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2008 Cadillac CTS

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  • ortegaortega Posts: 57
    I'm sorry...I did not mean to sound rude. You're absolutely right. I know the the link to the order guide has been posted a few times on here, but some may have overlooked it.

    BTW...have you actually driven a car at 150mph? Just curious what that experience is like (don't think I've ever topped 115).
  • 150mphclub150mphclub Posts: 317
    Yes, twice. First time in a Chrysler 300--quite scary. Second time in a Plymouth Superbird (nose cone, giant spoiler wing). The Superbird was more stable and thus less frightening. I guess you can figure out how long ago that was. In recent years I keep it under 90. However, I did push it close to 100 in west Texas last year.
  • sevenfeet0sevenfeet0 Posts: 486
    Looks like some of the "First Drive" CTS reviews are breaking cover (Edmunds, Autoweek, Car and Driver). So far so good...some nitpicks but overall high praise. Looks like Caddy may have a winner on its hands.
  • jpstax1jpstax1 Posts: 197
    Here's MT's first-drive review:

    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0709_2008_cadillac_cts

    I still can't believe that normally aspirated DI V-6 engine can generate 304 HP. Its 0-60 time is also impressive.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    ...but I'm not sure it will have that "must have" attraction to change the overall sales typical for the CTS, 5-6K/mo. Sure, the first few months the sales will be up, but after that it will probably settle back to its historical sales figures. Caddy fixed the main thing lacking in the current CTS - the interior. Other than that it is merely keeping up with the competition.
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    I still can't believe that normally aspirated DI V-6 engine can generate 304 HP. Its 0-60 time is also impressive.

    Not hard to believe...

    The nissan 3.7L VQ WITHOUT DI can generate 330HP. :surprise:
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,020
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  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,733
    The CTS doesn't require premium fuel to do it. This means a much longer lifespan and a decent savings in fuel as well(lower compression tends to have less problems as the engine ages)
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    No, the CTS doesn't require premium fuel. But without the premium fuel, one wouldn't be able to achieve the performance numbers posted from Cadillac.

    Meaning: If you want a 300HP CTS, you have to pay for it at the pump.

    However, I do like this better than other premium brands' "one shall use premium fuel or else" policy.

    Another big plus for Caddy.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,069
    It is keeping up with the competition that was brought to market in 2004 as a 2005 MY.

    My new CTS, assuming I do indeed go that way, will contain somewhat less content than my 2005 A6.

    This, despite what you may think I mean, is MAJOR progress for a US car mfg.

    It is so inexpensive to add content, at least most content, it makes me wonder why not lead rather than follow.

    But, if the price is what it seems it might be, well, it still will be a winner.

    The MT write up was very revealing, encouraging and mixed.

    I would say, the verdict is positive and simultaneously cautiously optimistic.

    "I got a friend in Fremont, He sells used cars, ya know.
    Well, he calls me up twice a year
    Just ask me how'd it go. . .
    Pretty good, not bad, I can't complain
    Actually everything is just about the same. . ."


    John Prine.

    :shades:
  • bingomanbingoman Posts: 373
    On the Cadillac Drivers Blog someone complained about the DRL's as a danger to his fellow motorcyclists. Can anyone tell me how they create a danger. Considering that most cyclist run with their headlights on during the day so as to be seen I do not see what his objection is.
  • pearlpearl Posts: 336
    the multiple reviews of the new CTS sound good; however, none are so glowing as to make any recent BMW buyers have remorse. The one thing that locked me up was the 4000+lb weight of the new CTS. Glad that it has a 300hp motor - it will need it.
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,733
    I guess there's one reason to not have a manual... So much for push-starting it.

    Egads - that's approaching a 1999 S420's weight, and that thing was an absolute tank.
  • 150mphclub150mphclub Posts: 317
    According to GM news releases, the RWD will weigh in at 3872. The AWD weighs in at 4101.
  • edkleinedklein Posts: 33
    I'll be in the market in another year or so and the new CTS is one of the cars I've been waiting to see. I must confess some dissapointment to see them adopting the BMW model - with the base price car being pretty thoroughly stripped and the price of options pushing the price up hard and fast.

    Which leads me to wonder - aside from the badge, what is supposed to make me consider a base CTS or a base 328 a premium car?
  • bingomanbingoman Posts: 373
    Louiswei

    Where did you see any information that indicated that the Direct Injection motor required premium fuel to achieve the reported performance numbers? Premium fuel has no more energy than regular fuel.

    It has a higher octane rating to prevent predetonation (otherwise known as pinging) in a high compression engine and does not add anything to the power rating.
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    From Inside Line's First Drive: 2008 Cadillac CTS

    The 2.8-liter engine has been dropped from the lineup, so last year's port fuel-injected (PFI) 3.6-liter V6 carries over as the base engine, only now it makes 263 SAE-certified hp and 252 pound-feet of torque.

    New for 2008 is a direct-injected (DI) version of the 3.6-liter V6 engine. Variable valve timing on the intake and exhaust cams and an 11.3:1 compression ratio help the new engine put out 304 SAE-certified hp, and 80 percent of the peak torque output of 273 lb-ft is available at 1,000 rpm. This engine feels stout, but there's no place on this winding circuit to verify Cadillac's claim of 5.9-second performance to 60 mph and a top speed of 155 mph.

    The use of premium unleaded fuel plays a role in Cadillac's performance figures, but either V6 engine runs happily on regular. Official 2008 EPA mileage figures are unavailable, but Cadillac expects 17 mpg city and 26 mpg highway from the new DI V6.


    Apparently the 3.6L DI is optimized for premium unleaded but the regular would work as well.
  • ortegaortega Posts: 57
    The Motor Trend first look article talks about it:

    ..." GM global rear-drive chief engineer Dave Leone claims a 15-percent power increase (though you'll only get the full 304 horses if you run it on premium unleaded)"...

    http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0709_2008_cadillac_cts/engines.ht- - ml
  • texasestexases Posts: 5,511
    Same energy, yes, but if it (through the knock sensor/engine computer) allows the engine to run at further advance, it'll develop slightly more power with premium.
  • actualsizeactualsize Santa Ana, CaliforniaPosts: 124
    Where did you see any information that indicated that the Direct Injection motor required premium fuel to achieve the reported performance numbers? Premium fuel has no more energy than regular fuel.

    It has a higher octane rating to prevent pre-detonation (otherwise known as pinging) in a high compression engine and does not add anything to the power rating.


    The reason premium fuel produces more power is this: The usual pre-detonation counter-measure is to retard the ignition timing. Since premium fuel pings/knocks at a higher threshold, more aggressive ignition timing can be used.

    More spark advance generally means more power, better fuel economy, and reduced emissions - as long as the ping/knock threshold isn't crossed.

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