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2008 Cadillac CTS

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  • golfnut5golfnut5 Posts: 202
    I noticed in pictures of the 08 CTS the leather seats look stretched where the driver has been sitting. I had a 03 CTS and the leather seats also got stretched on the seat bottom. The leather seats in the CTS are the only leather seats in a car that seem to have this stretched look. This is not a problem, I just don't like the look. It doesn't look normal. :confuse:
  • thebugthebug Posts: 294
    knotem - When I ordered my 03 CTS, there was no deposit required, on the 08 CTS they wanted 2K (different dealer) and it appeared that they just pulled the number out of the air. The negotiations were after the car arrived, but it was pretty much clean cut with the Costco discount (2K over invoice). That's the going rate for Costco and the CTS because it's such a hot item.

    Get your figures together before you go to negotiate (they hate that, but it's works to your advantage). It helps prevent the four squares game that they play. When ordering make sure they enter everything you ask for and get a copy of the order request. Request a build date about ten days after your order is placed.

    My friend, I tell you the car is awesome, very much improved over the first generation.

    thebug...
  • thebugthebug Posts: 294
    pao - Don't beleive them when they say they are going to hold the check. I was told the same thing, but three days after I wrote the thing it cleared the bank (not an issue because it was part of my cash payment). They had to have sent it the same day that I wrote it. You can negotiate the deposit as well because they are not having trouble selling this car. These cars are flying off the lots everywhere.

    thebug...
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,526
    One thing I noticed in comparing R&T’s acceleration numbers to C+D’s:
    R&T typically published the least quick numbers of the “big 3”.

    R&T’s 0 – 60 number is a 6.0 = 2 tenths slower than C+D ( 5.8 )

    BUT.
    R&T’s Quarter Mile numbers are 14.5 at 98.2, while C+D reported 14.6 at 95.

    What I find most interesting is that the R&T test car was an automatic – and R&T recorded a quicker Quarter Mile at a higher terminal velocity than C+D recorded in a car with the six speed manual trans.

    One factor here may be gearing. Though both the manual & automatic clear 60 in second gear, the manual trans. requires an additional shift ( at 95 MPH ) just before the end of the Quarter – while the automatic does not need to shift from third to fourth until clearing the lights, at 105 MPH.

    Interesting . . .

    - Ray
    Thinking 14.5 for the automatic version is respectable . . .
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    this one dealer will...the 06 solstice was a hot item too when it came out.....and he held the check for six months, order the car in May, accepted by GM for production in July and didnt get it until Dec...he could have cashed it as well.....but again..with order times of 6-8 weeks, subject to constraints for the CTS.......its not so much a big deal...
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,526
    Edit:
    C+D Quarter mile = 14.6 at 97 MPH,
    not 95 as I (mis-)typed.
    Hence the 95 MPH shift in the manual trans. version is an issue...
    My apologies...
    - Ray
  • Has anyone had a pin stripe painted on their new 2008 CTS?
    My 2004 had a pin stripe, it looked good.
    I have held off doing pin stripe on 2008 CTS.
    Cosmo13
  • knotemknotem Posts: 62
    Pao, thebug
    Thanks for the helpful information. I’ll probably order the PDW, PDR and U2S with the DI Engine.
  • arby1arby1 Posts: 83
    You can check in the show room how a pinstripe looks . They often do one to show customers .
  • jpennjpenn Posts: 68
    Cosmo13

    Saw a Black Cherry CTS the other day. It was going in the opposite direction so I didn't get a long look. It had a gold pin stripe which to my mind was not very attractive because the stripe was too far down due to the front fender vent. My opinion is to leave the striping off of this model.
  • There are several people who own the car that post in this thread. The bug just got one so it may be too early. But can any of you post your feelings about the car now that you've had it a month or two?
    Are there any irritating things? Noises, rattles, I know someone mentioned brake dust. Is that really a problem? Are the ac vents bothering you?
    Is the car living up to your expectations? Is bluetooth really a reason not to buy the car? For me it doesn't matter. It would not in the least stop me from buying a car I fell in love with. Although undoubtedly I would prefer to have it.

    I showed the review from R&T to my fiance and she frowned at the blandness of the Infiniti. Me too. The CTS is drop dead sexy.
    Perhaps the G is a better car or a BMW any version may be a better car but are there any regrets amongst owners of the CTS?

    Someone early on metioned that there will be a large buy american group out there that will buy the car. Count me as one of them. But I still have some weird feeling that I may be giving up to much in comparison to get into the CTS.
  • Thanks, I feel the same.
    Pin striping was no charge from my dealer. I believe this model because of high belt line does need pin stripe.
    Cosmo13
  • vic10vic10 Posts: 188
    Not so sure a pinstripe would be a plus...but sure wish it had a door-ding bumper strip down the side.
  • golfnut5golfnut5 Posts: 202
    beerme1,

    I owned a 03 CTS and thought it was a blast to drive, but had several problems with it. Rear end diff noise, CD player problems, speaker problems and finally tranny problems. I have a weird feeling also. I am interested in the 08 CTS, but will wait to see if problems surface. A spare tire is an option, that is goofy. Why two sound options regular Bose and 5.1, its a Cadillac put your best in and forget about it.
  • Beerme1,
    I'd ordered mine (DI engine, all options minus AWD, Nav, Sunroof) after looking at the competition. I'm still waiting for delivery, so I can't offer feedback on those items you're asking for...sorry.

    But, the thing is this car looks Damn Good inside and out, and drives well enough (a 3'er drives best, but the interior design leaves me repulsed...the G35 is quicker and is right sized, but agree with you on the interior blandness and lesser available options) that the rest will not be missed.

    Many posts written on Bluetooth, but I don't care. I work in an office not a car, and I'd rather not talk while driving anyway.... I understand the complaint from the other side, but come on, it's a car

    It's a fun game. You say you're engaged, so you've already answered for yourself the question of defining your priorities; Do you marry the beautiful woman that's good between the sheets, or marry the less attractive woman that's amazing between the sheets and have to sneak peeks at the beautiful women when you think she won't notice? Looks are superficial, but let me suggest that a life without beauty would be lessened.

    I've got a few more weeks to go before my Caddy arrives.

    Happy Motoring. I also would like to hear from current owners.
  • I have owned mine for about 3 weeks now. Mine is black, with all the bells and whistles, minus AWD. I have owned two BMW's previously, but the new models don't appeal to me, and the other contender's, the Infiniti G35, G37, and M35, while excellent vehicles, were just far too bland on the outside for me. I like my CTS a lot, and can't walk away from it without turning to look at it two or three times. :) The curb appeal is the exact reason I chose it over the Infiniti models.

    However, I have found one extremely annoying thing, but I'm not sure I can explain it properly. It seems that on the driver's side, on the door handle/arm rest, and on the center console side, the leather/upholstery cover is very thin, and covers two fairly sharp right angles of steel underneath the leather. It might be nothing to most drivers, but this just happens to be where my knee and leg area naturally falls while I'm driving, and over a fairly short period of time it becomes irritating and painful.

    It's not an issue when the car is on cruise, which is a great deal of time for me, as the bulk of my driving is interstate driving, but when I am on the pedals it's a different story. I am still hoping to find just the right seat positioning to alleviate this, but haven't had much luck yet.

    I still love the car though, but I wish they had put some more padding in those specific areas.
  • Agree about the Bluetooth...unless you work in your car...what's the difference...you can get bluetooth add-ons or do the Verizon OnStar option which is what I'm going to do. People complaining about $10 a month? Please.

    What I'm mad about is that my car is actually at my dealer right this second..but I'm out of state until November 17th! I told my salesguy he could take it for a spin, but nobody else! I have to live vicariously through him for now!

    Mine is a DI, Red with Cashmere with Luxury II..everything but the tire upgrade, which I would have done if I had custom ordered. THis car was on the way and it had everything I wanted but that. So....by the way, is anyone actually getting the spare tire? What's the consensus on that?
  • I've had my 2008 CTS 3.6DI RWD (all options except AWD) for almost a month. I ordered it in August and took delivery eight weeks later. So far I've racked up about 1,800 miles. This is also my first Cadillac.

    I have two small disappointments. First, the car has a high-pitched wind-noise whistle around the driver's door. It's usually present at about 55 mph and above. There is also a quarter size paint flaw above the left-rear wheel. I've not yet asked the dealer to repair either.

    Unlike the post above, I've not noticed any interior problems, or thinness in the leather on the armrests. I have had no brake dust problems; but this may be a problem with the performance brake package with the FE3 suspension or AWD. The AC vents are also not a problem (for me) as some feared. The lack of Bluetooth is not an issue because I don't have a Bluetooth phone and don't plan to have one. Not a negative, but the car has a firmer ride than I expected.

    Now the likes: The NAV system; a very nice 5.1 DTS surround sound system with DVD player; the radio TIVO function and internal hard drive; very comfortable seats; tight turning radius; 304 hp on regular gas and real world 21 - 25 mpg; ambient lighting; love the light pipes, swivel HID lights, remote start, ventilated seats, and the large sunroof. Bottom line is this car has exceeded my expectations. No regrets here.
  • adnanzadnanz Posts: 10
    I've ordered the Permormace Package (FE3), RWD, Premium Luxury package 08 CTS. Anxiously waiting, just wanted owners feedback for this set up. I'm in the norhteast, so i know i have to get winter tires but i just wanted feedback from owners who are driving FE3 already. THANKS.
  • knotemknotem Posts: 62
    I found this website's very helpful, mostly people already bought or test drove the 08 CTS; It's a user reviews. Most of the objections are from sunroof shade, plus various complaints from a variety of little problems here and there, and some very satisfied owners:

    http://autos.yahoo.com/cadillac_cts-reviews_user/
  • I've only had mine for a couple of weeks, but I have been able to put almost 1000 miles on it. I have been spending a lot of time in the break-in of the car so it has seen a lot of highway and city stop and go driving. I ordered the Red Crystal with all of the goodies including AWD. I did lot of test driving before purchasing because I wanted to see the differences between and rear wheel and the AWD. I tested the F1, F2, and the F3. I found the F1 way too soft, besides, I don't think you can get the Dl engine with that suspension. The F3 was a little too firm for me. I wanted it to be more of a family car than a sports car. The F2 is still quite sporty for a car of this size and to me it was the perfect compromise. I went with the AWD because it seemed to have a little better handling in less than perfect road conditions. You are supposed to lose a mile or two per gallon with the AWD drive, but I cannot complain. I am averaging about 18 to 19 in the city and I one trip of 300 miles, I averaged almost 26 mpg. I should get even better as it breaks in more.
    I have found none of the problems stated by others such as an air leak over the driver's door and the sunroof and I have had it over 100 mph in a couple of stretches of deserted freeway for short bursts checking for that very thing. I also haven't found any problems with the air vents. The climate control works flawlessly and the navigation system is awesome. This is the third Nav system I have owned and by far the most sophisticated and yet easy to use that I have experienced. Those air conditioned seats are pretty cool to (pun intended!)
    I guess I would rate the CTS at 4.5 stars out of 5. This is just an awesome car. I can't wait to take it on a real trip in the next month or so.
    Do yourself a favor and get one on order. I talked to my salesman the other day and he told me that the CTS now close to a 3 month wait. I can't verify that, you might no to wait too long before making up your mind.
    Good luck.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    all good reviews..waiting till after the first of the year to order...beleive some of the delays are due to constrained items...P63 polished wheels..and the wood inserts for the shift know and the steering wheel B20.....

    my salesperson is still telling me 6-8 weeks...looking at red, with DI, PDQ, Performance all season Y42, P63..... will be an after New Years order for me.....
  • I want to thank those of you who responded to my question. It has been nothing but positives.
    I drove an f2 and an f1 equipped cts and was quite surprised at the difference between the two.
    I am most likely going to order an f2 di awd but will be in Jan. or Feb. I am very curious to see how this car handles winter as we do tend to get just a little bit of snow where I am each year.
    Thanks again to all!
    Willy
  • Read the article. I am wondering why Edmunds thinks the EPA rating for the G35 is 19/26. I checked the EPA web site, and it says 17/24.
  • puckspucks Posts: 47
    Could the 19/26 be the 07 they tested? While 17/24 is the new 08 number?
  • I'm going to order a CTS in January for a March delivery and am having trouble picking a color since my dealership hasn't had any in yet to look at. I like the black and red but also curious about the gold and bronze which look good in the tiny pictures in the brochure. Taste is personal of course, but what do people think about those metallic colors if you've seen one in person?

    Greg
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    the red is stunning with highly polished wheels....I normally stay away from black....to hard to keep the swirl marks out of the clear coat over time.....gold and bronze areny my favor..but the white is a good looking car too....

    go over to cadillacforums..and then into the 08 CTS forums..lots of members have posted pics there...and you can get a feel for colors there....

    cant beleive your dealership hasnt gotten in any yet....or have they just sold them faster than they can keep them in inventory.....if they havent gotten any in yet at all..I would find another dealer to order from ...as this dealer as a very low allocation
  • I had a similar problem...I was already set on the black, but wanted to see what the other ones look liked as well. I saw a White clear-coat, and Red, both of which were gorgeous, but not what I wanted.

    However, according to the dealer, the colors offered for the Escalade, which he had a wide variety of, were the same offered for the CTS. So, I was at least able to see what the color looked like, although on a different vehicle. Maybe that would help you as well!
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