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I am looking for Sport 6 MT and no tech package etc. Just leather seating.
Have you ever driven an Acura?
I own an 06 MDX.
You're wrong.
There's a trigger like button behind the wheel... smartly placed, I may add.
Pull the trigger once and the system is now listening.
(You'll hear a tone)
You say...
"Call 555-123-4567"
The voice asks you to confirm and you then hit the button again and say "Yes" or "Call"
Yes, that's 2 button hits....
Imagine the calories burned!?!?!
Acura has by far, beaten the competition in regards to Navigation... read any review.
And let's not forget the Bluetooth functionality.
Flawless in the Acura, people can't even tell I'm in the car.
Let's hear you say that about the G.
With all that being said, the 07 G is beautiful, and plan on giving it a very fair comparison while looking for a second car this Spring.
Since I'll be looking for a G35x, I very much hope the brake issues are corrected this year.
Just wanted to comment on the Acura, it's a fantastic system which shines compared to Lexus, Infiniti, BMW and the likes.
With that out of the way, i dont think u understand my point. Yes you could say the number like that in an infiniti as well. but my point is that lets say you want to break it up into threee parts. then for each part, you gotta press a button. know wat i mean ?
also for the example u used, you need to press the button for the confirmation right, in the infiniti you do not. point proven
as far the bluetooth. they work fairly well in both. however, the TL is a much less noisier car ( the infiniti is more sport oriented, trade offs) so it has better outgoing sound...
Yes the acura are nice cars but too plain for my taste. its just a matter of preference. I loike the sportier, better looking infinitis also that TL is not available in coupe form these days neway.
i dont think nething shud b taken personally, these are just opinions. i personally like hte infinitis and their tech, you might prefer the acuras. its all cool.
Paul
El Cajon, CA
All in all a very cool car and a worthy option to the almighty 3 series. Now if Audi can join the horsepower war I'll be happy....
"The 2007 G35 strikes the perfect balance between the BMW 3 and Lexus IS."
Remember where you heard it.
http://photos.freshalloy.com/gallery/v/infinitiinsider/PG1.JPG.html
if these are the actual prices, then its an amazing deal for the stuff they are offering. i was thinking of dropping the technology package from mine, but i think i mite keep it if it is that low price.
After seeing the car up close, I agree with what some others have posted. The interior is nice, I actually like the washi aluminum. Better leather, nav is pretty awesome and quick(I was calculating different routes in the showroom), composite video in the center console(salesman confirmed it's not for music at all but wouldn't confirm if you could plug dvd player or whatever in there), seats have side lumbar adjustability, and rear seatroom seamed pretty good (I hated the rear seats on the '06 because they felt hollow due to the reclining feature).
On the downside, the interior still not as nice as BMW or Lexus, but the difference is a lot less now. Center console can fit a radar detector and sunglasses, and that's about it...still better than the IS 350 though. The driver seat feels a little tight on the side legs and isn't adjustable(I'm not a very big guy 5'8 170lbs).
The last two complaints really piss me off because they would be so easy to fix. The front grill is made of plastic. Why? :confuse: :confuse: :confuse: I own an I30 and have owned a Q45 and G20...all with metal grills, why move to plastic now? It looks cheap and will get rock chips like no tomorrow I'm sure. And, if they use plastic for the grill, an obvious piece of the car that everybody will see, to save costs, then what else did they cheap out on? This just has me worried about the car 8 years down the road, because that is how long I like to keep my cars. I'm not one of those guys that is going to keep my car in pristine condition or gets the clear bra in the front, but plastic...my girlfriend's civic has a plastic grill. Give me a break. Lastly, this is my gripe with Infiniti and several other manufacturers. What exactly is supposed to be able to fit through the ski pass through? Yeah, skis, but hasn't anybody heard of snowboards? :mad: This thing will not fit a snowboard to save its life, and there's no reason for it not to. Expand the hole by a few inches and you're good; I do not see any reason why they couldn't do that. Are they trying to get me to buy a ski rack or something? I like to go snowboarding a lot, and this small passthrough could cause me to look elsewhere when it's time to replace my car as skiracks don't really look sexy to me.
Other than that, looks like some nice improvements...I think I left some drool in the car when playing with the touchscreen nav.
All I can say is Thank You Infiniti!
My criticism of the car is little to none. I don't like the chrome wing/thing on the rear, I didn't realize that had the trunk buttons on it. Also, don't care for the paddle shifters - they just look big and akward, although they felt like they'd be functional enough. But that's pretty much it.
On the plus side, I really like the Nav and touch screen controls. The lines of the car are so much better than the '06 it's not even worth doing a point by point on that. Finally, the interior quality is now up to par with the price point. Not quite the fit and finish of a Lexus, but also not quite the price of a Lexus. I will post again, after they call me for a test drive.
I am of the opinion that the 3-series and Lexus IS area overpriced. Reason is: I drove a 2004 G35 and it reminded me of my old 3rd gen RX7. I know... not quite - by far - but it was much more sports car than I expected. Can't say the same about the 3-series unless we're talking M3, which is in another league altogether.
Since I'm a responsible adult now... I can't wait for the 2007 G35. Was going to get an STi or an Evo... but I don't think I can afford a new pair of kidneys as well.
At $30K a no options G35 6MT is a good deal.
audio:
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You can toggle through the sources to access the changer(in the trunk), the cf card, the music box hdd or the in dash cd.
when you are playing a cd, you can press the Record button to rip it onto the hdd. when i did that, it started playing the first track and writing it to the hdd. i did not figure out yet how to rip specific tracks and how to rip at a faster rate without playing the track at the same time.
there was also xm in the car. you press the xm/fm switch to toggle between the radio sources. you rotate the infiniti controller to toggle between presets. to seek through stations you press the radio buttons on the lower part of the console. the screen can display the apropriate the info about as well such as rds for regular radio.
you can press the audio button on the side of the controller to cadjust the sound settings which are typical bass, treble, balance and fade.
did not have chance to turn volume really up to comment much on sound quality
navigation:
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the voice entry for destination worked fairly well. and i wont go through the typical nav options.
once a route is set (through the usual poi, dest, interesection and so on ) you have several intersting options. you can choose the preview option which goes over the directions with you before you begin your journey. there is also a simulate mode which , yep, simulates the journey for your. when using the poi to find the destination, like the lexus you have the option to call the place as well which is very useful.
to zoom into the map you can rotate the controlloer and the maps are very crisp and clear.
auxilary:
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yep its confirmed. the aux supports video. you can press the aux button to toggel to the aux screen. you have the option to set the video feed to cinema, wide and regular modes. the video wont play when the car is in motion but i am sure there is a hack for that as on the M.
settings:
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pressing the settings button takes you to the settings screen. there you can view several important things. the display does a nice job of displaying the average mpg and how many miles left on the current amount of gas. you have hundreds of settings that you can play around with for example how long the lamps stay on, selective door openining, disabling the intelligent key, and many many more. basically you can really customize the car the way you want.
the centeral instrument panel screen:
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here you can enter settings for tire pressure alerts and mantainance alerts. seemed interesting but i was too occupied with the main screen to pay too much attention.
misc notes:
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*the trunk opener is on the ugly silver lip spoiler
* there is new lil slot with blinky lights where you can store the intelligent key (its optional to put it there)
* the trunk cd change is place on the top front of the trunk. i think its a convenient location but kinda makes the entry space of the trunk a lil smaller on the left side.
* the car is supposed to be quiter than the old one.
* amazingly, the leaked pricing was correct.
will add more if i think of nehting i have forgotten
Thanks.
As it was dark and the cars were outside (after all this is Phoenix and if you can't be outside in late October, when can you be outside!
I too noticed that the paddle shifters were huge! Not sure if that is a good or a bad thing and won't know until I drive one. I do know that they had better work a whole lot better than the paddles on my current Saab, or there isn't much point in going with the sport model. On the Saab, the levers are tiny, hard to use as they are mounted on the steering wheel and it takes forever to change gear after hitting the lever.
As for the other toys on the G35, I would rather they deleted the trunk mounted CD player when upgrading to the NAV and HDD MP3 player. I would rather have a clearer opening into the trunk and a bit more space, as with the HDD player and the single slot in the dash, there really is no need for the 6 slot in the trunk at all.
I was a little disappointed with the washi trim. The online pictures and the brochures displayed an interesting texture that looked far better than it does in real life, but again, that may just be because it was dark outside and the colored spotlights made everything appear flat. I'll reserve full judgment on the trim until I see it in the daylight when I test drive the car.
There were no prices on the cars, as they all came with a sample invoice sticker that only listed the specifications and options installed, but the rough prices quoted by the salesmen from the various Infiniti dealers around the valley, all seemed to be in line with the link posted earlier.
Next step is to see if it drives as well as it looks! If it's anything like the 2005 coupe, then I won't be disappointed. Hopefully, it sounds like the coupe too. I just love the sound of that engine. So much so, that when I took the coupe out on it's test drive, I turned off the radio, lowered the windows and just listened to the engine rumble.
Test drove the Sport model and liked everything very much except for the paddles (which I really dislike and wouldn't be using anyway), different size tires, and the trim on the deck lid (which I think is on all models). Will miss the seats in the Sport model.
the accel pedal does not come down as most cars, its actually mounted on the floor. something like the accelerator pedal you would see in the arcade or using the steering wheel/pedal set wiht video games. a good example is like using a guitar foot pedal...
i think its kinda cool because sometimes when you being lazy and using the edge of your toes, the foot the can slip and cause the car to jerk. this setup will avoid the slipping
We have one of the very first 2003 G35 sedans which we bought in Mar of 2002, Our car has been terrific so with that good experience we wanted to test drive the new high tech 2007 sedan.
Off we went! On launch I noticed that the car had much more snap than our old one but also noticed that the motor tended to rev much more while accelerating. I also noticed that the engine turned faster at cruising speeds, I am sure the engineers have all this figured out so I don't think this is a bad thing being that the new G is supposed to get better gas milage than the old one. The car with the normal suspension was great in the curves so I will not opt for the sports suspension. I would also get the standard 17 inch wheels because they can be rotated and would last longer. As it is the handling was wonderful! The body seems tighter than our old one and Infiniti did a great job in designing this car. Watch out BMW! All the high tech stuff is fun and I will get a car with everything on it, love their new navigation and voice commands!
Our present car is a red garnet fire color and we were thinking of getting another red one but we didn't like the new fire engine red so will have to look at other colors. To each his own on this one.
Overall the new sedan will find a good home with us and we are excited about the new future addition.
Did I say that she is pretty on the outside? Well she is!
Paul
San Diego
1. Alot of the interior materials looked great, but felt 'cheap'.
2. When you punch it, the engine sounds strained and 'angry', and it does so often and sometimes needlessly. I caught the same unpleasant sound and feel from the new V6 Passat. I think the transmission is doing alot to save this car from being annoying to drive.
3. Try as I might, I could not find a comfortable driving position. I spent lots of time adjusting everything, and popped between the Journey and the Sport model, but it just never happened.
4. I love the NAV system's jog dial and touchscreen, but the overall look and usability of the screens were a turn-off. I often design user interfaces for software here at work, and consider the Honda/Acura NAV systems to be the benchmark of perfection. Others may have more features, but I don't think any NAV can beat the usability and intuitiveness of the one offered in the TSX.
Since I didn't get the 'I gotta have it' itch from a lengthy test drive, and because this is our second car that we really should cut costs on, I'm probably going to leave this segment and go for a Jetta GLI instead. The much lower sticker price, lagless turbo four, and lovely DSG transmission will suffice for me. Again, I'm not saying that a Jetta is better than a G35, it just happens to fit my personal requirements better...
I'm am so happy to hear you say this. I too could not find a comfortable position no matter how hard I tried. May I ask how tall you are? I a 5'5" and I am convinced that the headrests are made for someone taller then me. I just figured I would figure it out once we took delivery - but now I'm thinking I need to go back and work it our BEFORE we order the car.
Other then that, though, I loved the car - except where they placed the 6 CD changer. How stupid is that! I'm going to smash it with a suitcase or a set of golf clubs!
The driver's seat is almost too adjustable.
Try it!
The car stuck to the road and acclerated like a dream...with great braking!
Tom
Oh, and hey, congrats on the new rocket ship. One day, that might be me pulled up beside you at a stop light, revving my engine and smiling.
But of course let me note some negative nits which needed a few days to surface, and which reflect my personal bias and taste:
1) trunk lid is awkward to raise/close without a handle/grip somewhere. The ugly chrome trim on the lid is not shaped for gripping, is slippery, and retains fingerprints.
2) turn-signal clicker is too soft. I can't hear it over normal road and radio noise. With the corresponding blinking indicator lights being a little small in my view, several times the turn-signal has been off or on when I thought it was on or off.
3) no digital clock anywhere if no Navigation Package. This really irks me. I often want to easily know the hour and minute. The analog clock in the center console is useless for me.
4) intelligent key ergonomics. I am getting nicely adjusted to its being in my pocket untouched. But its buttons should be better distinguishable by feel, the alarm button should be better protected from being accidently pushed, and the buttons should be "higher" on the key (and move the Infiniti emblem to the bottom) so that one's thumb rests directly on them.
5) LCD info on instrument panel should be bigger/better. What I want to see there most of the time are just the digital time and the odometer mileage. What I now see in the various panels are a variety of numbers and letters (much of which doesn't excite/interest me) that are somewhat difficult for me to read in just a quick glance, being somewhat small and in a weak red color.
6) poor map storage. The door pockets and the center console storage box are all too short by an inch or two to hold maps. All that's left is the glovebox which is often already filled. So my maps now have an extra fold or two in them.
I'm quite pleased with Elk Grove (CA) Infiniti ... reps Jim and Eric, manager Russ, and the several service folks I just questioned about the type/vendor of the oil being used (and I was surprised to learn that they are using normal instead of synthetic 5w-30 oil).
The final sales process was comfortable aside from all the paperwork that can't be avoided. Before signing anything I was shown all the car-prep documentation, and went on a test drive of "my" new car just to be sure that a) it worked, and b) I was still sure. But there were two negative moments for me:
1) my trade-in value was printed nicely on a piece of paper while at the rep's desk. After my agreement to, and signature on, this and other various preliminary documents, all the paperwork then went elsewhere while I went to the finance guy's desk. This desk is where all the officially printed sales-documents appeared for my official signature. On the sales contract I noted that my trade-in was now listed $150 less than before. This was of course quickly corrected with apologies for an accidental error/misunderstanding by somebody somewhere in the past few minutes. On my previous car purchase eight years ago at a VW dealer, there was an "arithmetic error" $150 in their favor on the contract. Go figure.
2) In the midst of all the official signing at the finance desk, I was suddenly presented with an "opportunity" to purchase an extended warranty, a Simonizing treatment, or a Lo-Jack device, then and there ... and this was the only "pressure" time during multiple days at this dealer. I would have appreciated at least a day or two's lead time to first think/research these costly items.
Actually, 2 questions on points 3 and 6.
Point 3, you do not like the analog clock and wish for a digital clock because you often need to know the hour or minute.
Why do you need a digital clock? I don't understand.
Looking at an analog clock, I immediately know the hour and minute.
Point 6, you do not have enough room for all of your maps in the map pockets.
If you have the need for so many maps, and if the Navi offered a digital clock, why didn't you just get the Navi option, which would have given you the digital clock and lessened your need for actual paper maps.
Was the Navi not available to you?
Also, has any current 07 owner tested your bluetooth yet?
Previous G owners have complained about how aweful the sound quality is (even if it's the other party complaining)
Has this been improved?
Car..............MSRP...........Invoice
G35 Base..........$ 31,450...$ 28,930
G35 Journey......$ 31,900...$ 29,343
G35 Sport AT....$ 33,450...$ 30,763
G35 Sport 6MT..$ 44,450...$ 30,763
G35x AWD........$ 33,950...$ 31,221
Option.......MSRP......Invoice
Premium Pkg....$ 2350......$ 2025
Technology.......$ 1100......$ 948
Navigation.........$ 2100......$ 1810
4W Steer..........$ 1500......$ 1293
Sirius/XM*.........$ 300........$ 259
Sunroof**..........$ 1000......$ 862
Wood Pkg........$ 450........$ 388
Spoiler.............$ 550........$ 474
Perf. Tires........$ 400........$ 345
* = Included in Nav Pkg, cost only if separate
** = Included in Prem, cost only if seperate
The did not have one with all the options so they are searching the future allotments for Nov./Dec. and get back with me this week before placing a order. I put in for black with Graphite trim, and also the Blue Slate with Graphite. so I have a few days to decide on color if we have to order it.
Any opinions on Color for those who have seen 07's? By the way the Blue Slate is closer to charcoal/ dark graphite, it's really hard to see any blue in the color.
:confuse:
Bottom line does anyone have any real complaints? Even looking at the excellent post a few back from someone who owns one, can only come up with the tiniest points to address.
So far I've test drove the car 4 times for over 90 minutes of road time and 50 miles, and spend about 2 hours combined time in the seats and I myself can't come up with anything more then trivial complaints... I wish the cup holder in the center console was an inch deeper.
It's really great that we can not honestly find any issues with the new 2007 G35... we'll see as more get sold, but I can't imagine it's going to get any worse excluding major mechanical failures, seems nearly every ergonomically and environmental (cockpit) issues have been addressed, and address very well.
And in contrast to competition and even outside the direct competition I can come up with plenty more gripes against BMW 3 series, Acura, Audi, VW, and the god-awful Mercedes.
I think it may be silly to travel 50 miles to a dealer... is that where I have to get my free oil changes?
Other than that, if the brake and bluetooth issues have been addressed, I'm really liking the G and can't wait to see one in person.
In a word: Yes. $40,000 for a car is alot of money, and to buy one, then not be able to transport my kid in it because of the trunk's design - that's a problem.
The issue isn't the changer per-se, but the elaborate and bulky 'housing' they created for it. There was a trunk-mounted DVD drive in my TSX that was just strapped on with some bolts n' brackets. It looked less 'integrated' but didn't prevent my stuff from entering the trunk.
Now, I'm not here ranting "This car sux0rs!!!!111oneone" because of the changer location, but I am saying that a small design flaw like this could force me to cross this car off my list. If that's my own fault for having kids and also wanting a nice car, well then shame on me.
Unfortunately, I'm forced to 'trunk test' my cars against my baby strollers - parents gotta sacrifice, yaknow? Fortunately, I'm not a blind fanboy to any brand or model, so I've got plenty of options.
To show that I haven't drank the Kool Aid there are 2 minor issues I have. 1. the rear chrome spoiler does collect all the prints and 2. the home link buttons should've had a light because you can't find them at night. By no means are those deal breakers.
I asked the Sales Manager at the dealership who he considered the competition to this car to be and he said "no one, there's nothing in it's class at that price." And he's right!
The most serious nit to me is the low-volume turn-signal clicker because of the resulting safety exposure that has occurred several times. I will be asking the dealer's service department to research the possibility of boosting the volume. I think that my hearing is properly normal.
Taste/bias-wise, I just don't want to make a quick glance to the side and think that it's maybe 1126 or 1127 or possibly even 1128. I would like 1127 shown clearly in front of me in the instrument display area, as it has been in my previous cars. I have performed computer hardware/software support all my life, starting at NASA in 1966. So I think/need/like digital info in general, not analog info. Other's taste/bias in this area may vary.
There's enough capacity for my maps (which are few in number) in the door pockets or center console, but not enough length for my maps in these storage areas. I previously did not have to fold my maps when storing them close at hand.
For me, I couldn't justify the cost of the Nav unit. Others feel correctly for them that they must have it.
Those tires should definitly last you closter to 35-50K miles, even under "fun driving conditions, only if you beat on the car will it even approach 20K miles.
My Acura MDX allows me to ask what time it is.
I hit the button on the wheel and say "What time is it?" and the voice responds with, "It is 11:28 am"
Does the G have something like that?
If not, you may be stuck going to the local Walmart's auto section for one of those silly stick-on digital clocks. (LOL)
http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/highway1/la-hy-neil1nov01,1,7289802- .story