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Changes You'd Like To See in the Matrix

PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,892
edited March 11 in Toyota
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  • Any more info on 2008 redesign?

    My dislikes of current Matrix are:

    1.Steering wheel too far forward and no telescoping offered.
    2.Center console/stack mounted shifter protrudes and reduces available right knee room.
    3.Noise.
    4.Ride comfort could be better - a bit too stiff riding for my taste.
    5.Ugly styling. (I prefer Vibe's styling.)

    I'm guessing #1, #3 and #5 will be improved with the 2008 and the rest will either be the same or worse.
  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,411
    It is not clear that there will be a redesign. For the Corolla, yes, but maybe not for the Matrix.

    Pontiac has said in a press release, they'd be dropping the Vibe "towards the end of the decade", whatever that means. Keep in mind that the twins were a GM project, and Toyota only added the Matrix after they saw what the car would look like and thought it would be a good idea. That was before Scion got started.

    I've been keeping my ear to the ground and have heard nothing about a Vibe/Matrix redesign.

    -Mathias
  • This could have been my list about our 2003 Matrix except that I like the stiffness of the ride. Changes have been pretty minor in the last 5 years.

    There are Matrixes all over the place in New England. Are sales not great elsewhere in the country? I have read that Pontiac wants to reinvent itself in a way that explains discontinuing the Vibe. But I think Toyota would be wise to continue the Matrix (with a roof rack option please). I don't think the Scion models are taking away consumers fromthe Matrix.
  • Got it. Thanks for the info.

    Heard if the new Corolla will be available as a wagon?

    I find it frustrating that in other parts of the world there are many models of great hatchbacks/wagons/microvans available, but here in the USA we're stuck with mostly SUVs. :(

    I want something with similar dimensions to the Mazda5. The smallest size car I would want would be something the size of the Nissan Versa. The Yaris Liftback is just too tiny. I wish they made a Yaris WAGON based on the Yaris Sedan's wheelbase. That would be cool! :shades:
  • There are Matrixes all over the place in New England. Are sales not great elsewhere in the country?

    There are TONS of Matrixes here in Southern California. The dealers are flooded with them, and people are buying them now more than ever.
  • And from Auto Week: The Inside Track...

    Matrix: The redesign will come at the same time as the Corolla's, meaning the 2009 model year. Toyota wants the Matrix to be a destination vehicle for Scion owners.

    http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060815/FREE/60814015/1041
  • Changes to the Matrix? Wow! This could be a long entry. I may have to come back later when even more things occur to me. Don't get me wrong, I like my 2006 Matrix; but there are sooooo many things that need improving.

    The clutch and brake pedals need to be farther apart.

    We need rain gutters on top so we can roll down the window without getting soaked in wet conditions.

    The gauges need to be moved to the middle as with the Echo/Yaris.

    The base model of the Matrix needs to be availible. I had couldn't locate a single one when I went to buy - and I even employed an auto broker!

    Cargo area needs to be carpeted. Gear slids around everywhere if it's not lashed down.

    Speaking of lashed down, we need some kind of tie-downs on the exterior of this rig for folks that car top, without a rack.

    Eliminate all them senseless/annoying alarms.

    Eliminate those Daytime Running Lights.

    Redesign those uncomfortable seats.

    Offer the thing in Yellow.

    That will do for now. I'll probably be back with a new batch. :D
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,892
    It's a wish list. t's ALLOWED to be long! ;)

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  • I guess that's my biggest gripe. Side visibility seems to be an issue particularly when the driver is tall. Rear visibility is not great for any size driver.

    Regarding the list in posting 8, I'm in favor of keeping the running lights. And I hate the gauges in the middle and didn't consider cars for that reason. Otherwise I can agree with everything.

    BTW, a guy at my church has (or had) a bright yellow Matrix. Don't know what year it was, but it was nice-looking.
  • gasman1gasman1 Posts: 321
    That would help me a great deal. It would also be great if they would fold and had the option to be heated.

    Oh yes...better paint that can take some raod debris without chipping. You know, that's not a bad ideal for ALL cars.
  • jtomjtom Posts: 26
    I have a 03 xrs, but I'm pretty sure most things are the same.

    - more comfortable seating, headrests hurt my neck
    - arm rest/console weird placement
    - shifter...place it closer!
    - notchy stickshift on xrs, but that's no longer avail in 07
    - offer optional carpet for rear and stock roof racks
    -

    Things NOT to change
    - great styling, don't care what you vibe lovers think!! :)
    - great engine/gas mileage
    - overall, I think it's the best small wagon out there if you don't need AWD, then go subaru (soo fun to drive, but ohhh the maintenence)
  • Difinatly a bigger engine. (The 2.4L from the Rav-4 would be perfect especially in the AWD models.)

    Stiffer suspension. (the XRS suspension was perfect. It rides very smoothly and it feels much more stable than the soft base and XR models.)

    Standard traction and stability control.

    Standard 4 wheel disc ABS brakes

    Better tires (or bigger)

    Standard 6 speed manual transmission and optional 5 speed auto tranny.

    Less touchy gas pedal.

    An inch or two taller

    Standard telescoping steering wheel.

    Standard side and curtain air bags.
  • Hmm . . . I know this is all subjective, but I'm afraid I don't agree with most of these. (See comments below.)

    The clutch and brake pedals need to be farther apart.
    CM: I can't speak to this one, as I have an automatic.

    We need rain gutters on top so we can roll down the window without getting soaked in wet conditions.
    CM: Okay, nice idea, but hardly essential.

    The gauges need to be moved to the middle as with the Echo/Yaris.
    CM: Why? What's wrong with them where they are?

    The base model of the Matrix needs to be availible. I had couldn't locate a single one when I went to buy - and I even employed an auto broker!
    CM: Can't speak to this one either, as I bought an XR.

    Cargo area needs to be carpeted. Gear slids around everywhere if it's not lashed down.
    CM: It is -- at least mine is. I don't recall if it was standard or an option, but either way, it's available.

    Speaking of lashed down, we need some kind of tie-downs on the exterior of this rig for folks that car top, without a rack.
    CM: Agreed. In fact, a roof rack option would be nice.

    Eliminate all them senseless/annoying alarms.
    CM: Like what? Key in ignition? Lights on? Personally, I like these reminders. I think a way to turn them on or off would be nice, though, that way everyone could set them to their personal preference.

    Eliminate those Daytime Running Lights.
    CM: Again, why? First of all, aren't they required by law in many places? But second, how is this even noticeable when you're driving?

    Redesign those uncomfortable seats.
    CM: What? I think the Matrix's seats are quite comfortable.

    Offer the thing in Yellow.
    CM: They do (or did) -- I own a yellow Matrix! :) As much as I love the yellow (I never would have imagined I'd own a yellow car), what I really wanted was an awesome electric blue. Wish Toyota would have offered that. (I think they have a shade close to that now, though.)
  • My matrix has roof racks. You can get them as an assesory.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    I will put in a vote for more spacing between clutch and brake. It is just barely acceptable as it is.

    I think the suspension strikes a good balance between sport and smooth ride. If anything, I would want it a touch more sporty, with perhaps slightly larger sway bars, but I quite like it just as it is.

    Folks wishing for a 2.4L engine may get their wish. Seems that "folks in the know" have info that this is indeed the plan for the '09 Matrix. I assume fuel economy will suffer quite a bit, and that would reduce my interest in the car.

    I like the seats, but wish the height adjustment for the driver would be the normal method, lifting the rear of the seat bottom, rather than the existing design that ratchets the whole seat up and forward.

    I think that if Honda can put 6 standard airbags and ABS in every model including the little $14K Fit, then the Matrix should have those standard too. I wouldn't mind seeing standard VSC as well, but as long as it is a readily available option (which it isn't now in Toyota models that offer optional VSC) that would be fine. Actually I have heard that Toyota expects to make VSC standard in all its models by 2009.

    And I wish they would bring back the XRS. That's one fun ride. Put in the 2.4L with the TRD supercharger that's available in the Scion tC, and it would be a BLAST!
    Alas, the early info on the '09s indicates that the XRS is not going to make a return. :-(

    And oh yes, the manual on the next model should be a 6-speed.

    The new model is only about a year away. Is everyone going to be sad when their car becomes "the old model"? I might be a little...

    :-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • I wonder if the new matrix will come with AWD as an option. I hope so
  • Yes, the only reason we have a Matrix is because it came in AWD. I have read speculation that the AWD is to be discontinued. I see a lot of AWD Matrixes in New England and I hope Toyota isn't going to concede the small-car AWD market to Subaru.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    they dropped the AWD and the XRS for the '07 MY, and the info is pretty solid that there will not be an XRS after the redo. I too hope AWD makes a reappearance.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • It would be really cool if they put ice blue guages on the new Matrix.
  • moosmoos Posts: 17
    According to the dealership the Matrix is being replaced with the Toyota Blade...just google Toyota Blade and you'll see it. It's already being sold in Japan it's to be competiion with the Mazda 3 wagon. I don't get why they just don't fix the flaws with this and leave it alone...too many "look alikes" anyway!
  • I was dissapointed when I heard the Matrix was being replaced with the Blade. I think they should put the Matrix on a shortened Rav4 chassis and make it an entry level SUV since thats why most people buy them for anyways and bring over the Blade to compete with the 3
  • Since they are going to replace the Matrix with the Blade, I might get a Rav4 since thats what I wanted from the start. I love those SUVs, they're awesome
  • 1. I'd like to see yellow fog lamps, that would add to the cool factor.

    2. Move the fan control away from the automatic shift.

    3. Add an ejector seat for the mother-in-law.
  • mikusmikus Posts: 109
    Matrix is a Corolla hatchback, full stop. It is/was a perfect car, but Toyota listens to idiots who wants bigger, bigger, bigger. Toyota already screwed up the new xB by blowing its size and by installing huge 2.4 liter from the Camry. Older xB mileage was about 35, new xB is rated only 25MPG. Global warming, bring it on.

    Current Matrix has a perfect engine for its size, don't make it bigger. And bring back XRS, this is one fun car. I don't want to change much besides fake aluminum trim, it is ugly and well, fake. Either put the real thing, or make the dash clean and simple like on Corolla.

    And those of you who want an SUV, go get a RAV-4 or Suzuki SX4. There are many SUVs around, Matrix is just a compact hatchback and should stay a compact and fuel-efficient hatchback.
  • I agree with mikus. When I was car shopping, I was specifically looking for a car that had a fair bit of storage, but wasn't the size of an SUV, even a small SUV. Basically, that meant a wanted a wagon. I've had nothing but exceptional reliability from the Toyotas I've owned, so that's where I looked. It turns out that the only wagon Toyota makes is the Matrix (not counting the Scions, which I considered, but ultimately didn't like the style of). It's a shame they discontinued the Camry wagon, or I would have looked at that, too. But I like the Matrix. It suits my needs.
  • otis12otis12 Posts: 160
    1. bigger engine (2.4) with a 5-speed auto transmission -- please ditch the 4-speed.
    2. return of AWD - maybe with a driver-operated switch to go from front-wheel drive to four-wheel drive or the option to let the car automatically select -- I like to have driver control at times
    3. fold-down passenger seat with hard backside for hauling long objects.
    4. optional raised suspension package for greater ground clearance
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    sounds like you want to "Outback" the Matrix... :D

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • sales2010sales2010 Posts: 33
    I would like standard VSC, stability control, ABS, side curtain airbags, and fog lights. I think the paint should be of better quality. Better fit and finish since the Matrix suffers some rattles.

    I would like the engine to stay the same. Possibly, I would like a 5 speed automatic transmission
  • If i'm understanding your "#3" correctly, that's already a part of the Matrix, at least it's in my '07. The front passenger seat folds forward completely flat, and has a hard back. It even has a cup holder :-).
  • suydamsuydam Posts: 980
    My '04 Vibe also has a fold forward front seat with a hard back.
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