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Changes You'd Like To See in the A3

PFFlyer@EdmundsPFFlyer@Edmunds Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,808
What would you do to improve upon the A3? What features, specifications, or design elements would you tweak?

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  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,282
    That won't ever happen will it?

    How about a 2.0 T Quattro A3 with more aluminum components to equal the exact same weight as the frontrack 2.0T A3?
  • Redesigned cup holders.
    You can't use the fog lights unless the headlight switch is on manual...duh..why?

    Ditto on the #3 comment on the awd issue.
  • my 2 cents from visits and drives (don't own one yet):

    Should go to aluminum block motors to reduce weight, especially in the 3.2 version which is too heavy for its size.

    Add a Non_Sports version of the 3.2 suspension as an option so the 3.2 can deal better with bad roads.

    Also narrow up the interior console. Amazing how many german cars consoles are so wide and enroach into leg room (saturn derived opels have same problem).
  • The europe-based driving test came up with some surprises.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,282
    How about it? And price it at 30K to start.
    Dreaming.
  • Yes, Dreaming, unfortunately. The S3 runs over $50K at present, with a 4 cyl turbo.

    At least the Metalworkers union building Audis and VW's agreed to a slightly longer workweek to help reduce costs.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,282
    That 50K price must be 30K profit.
  • I'd like to see a A3 with a turbo diesel with 150-175hp, that would be plenty speedy, (0-60 under 7.5) and fun to tinker with for the tuners, while giving stellar performance at the pump too (mid-30s combined). Id prefer RWD or AWD in my perfect car but Id settle for FWD, if it had the diesel.

    I drove an A3 after they first came out and it was beautiful. :blush: The sales rep drove it before letting me behind the wheel, she drove 80 and I felt like we were doing 55. That was an amazing feeling but it made me worry. Maybe they can do something to stop the illusion of slowness. The driver needs to be aware of how fast their going or they'll spend a lot of time stopped on the side of the road. :cry: We want to spend our money on gasoline not tickets ;)
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    RWD for me too. From my perspective, the only thing wrong with the A3 is its WWD "Wrong Wheel Drive" orientation.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • I do think that it's one of the best sorted front wheel drive cars on the market today, the Mini being the best.

    Shipo, I know you love rear wheel drive cars, but I prefer any car with a drive train that's well sorted. For instance, 2 rear wheel drive cars I'm not interested in.
    1.Any Mercedes
    2.Any Lexus
    I'd take a front drive A3 over those in a heart beat.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I'm not suggesting that the A3 isn't well sorted, because it's not. In fact, it is one of the nicest FWD rigs that I've ever driven. That said, as the A3 can already be had in AWD trim, it's not a stretch to think that it can also be built as a RWD vehicle. Right, wrong or otherwise, it is my belief that an A3 with a RWD layout would be a more balanced car at the limit than the current FWD offering, and more fun to drive to boot.

    Regarding the RWD cars that you'd rank as less desirable than the A3: Hmmm, I'm with ya on the Lexus thing, no contest. That said, I really like virtually every E-Class since the introduction of the W210, the E320 Bluetec in particular. Of course I like the MB for FAR different reasons compared to the A3. ;)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Posts: 1,986
    I'll take a minor exception to the Lexus ban. Let's say any current Lexus: I took the only one worth owning. Ever. IMNSHO of course.

    And, of course, once they started down the path of driving fun, they abandoned it at the first opportunity.

    Lunkheads.

    A3 as a FWDer is spanking good, but still a FWDer. Pass. As an AWDer, it interests greatly, but is still not RWD, and is heavy with the 3.2. As an S3, I could perhaps forget about the drivetrain layout.

    Yes, I'm almost certain I could...

    BTW, Merry Christmas everyone!
  • agisagis Posts: 2
    I just bought the A3 07 Premium package.
    I love this car, handles great, good pickup and gas mileage.
    My only concern is the steering feels a bit vague when you are driving straight and speeds 60 -70 mph. I feel I need to do some minor corrections to keep it straight. Would making the suspension more sporty like:
    1. Stifer shocks and springs
    2. Stronger stabilizer bars front and rear
    3. Lower suspension ( I am reading from A4 specs sport suspension)
    fix this little annoyance?
    Thanks for your inputs.
  • rlsedition posted this in the Audi AE 3 suspension thread. He found this solution quite acceptable;

    "There is a good solution to ride quality, even with the Sport package A3. It KONI FSDs, with a unique design that favors ride just as much as improved handling. A car with FSDs feels like you just "took the edges off" road imperfections like tar strips and coarse pavement. You can even pair them with Eibach Pro-Kit lowering springs for an improved appearance."

    Sounds like these are even better than the Audi Sport dampers.
  • I usually don't hear people describe Audi's as nervous. BMW's, yeah, Audi's rarely if ever.
  • Europe already has the 2.0 Turbo Diesel 170HP and the 2.0 Turbo 200HP with Quattro AWD. Audi USA just decided not to bring these options to the US. I think the Quattro 2.0T would be the most compelling addition to the US range. The 3.2 is way too expensive for this car. The A3 remains a niche car in the US. I don't think it's sales have been very good over here for whatever reason, so it seems unlikely that Audi will broaden the range.

    So you might think that the Europeans have it all, but they also sell the A3 with an anemic 102HP 1.6 motor. How sad.
  • Actually the S3 is cheaper than the A3 3.2 Quattro S-Line Fastback in Europe, which is the equivalent to the top of the line A3 available in the US. Not $50K. However the S3 only appears to come in the 2 door hatchback shape, which is very popular in Europe, and non-existant in the US.
  • huntzingerhuntzinger Posts: 350
    Things that I would have liked to have seen:

    a) A diesel motor option.

    b) Some exterior color that's NOT on the VW GTI list.

    Currently, the Azure Blue that's supposed to be available for 09 is on a "delayed introduction". No word yet as to what its ETA might be, so we might cancel the order...can save $5K if we buy a GTI, or a 2008 left-over.

    c) Cloth interior

    My wife finds cloth seats warmer in winter, but the 2009's come standard with leather. No word yet on how much the sticker price is going to jump; my guess is around $1500.

    d) Ability to get Xenon HID's without getting soaked with other 'buy extra' optional packages.

    These typically include a package that includes a sunroof, but due to medical issues, a sunroof is a liability for us.

    e) Heated outside mirrors aren't standard equipment, but should be. When you look at the options list, they cost $1000 to add ($700 cold weather package, which requires the $300 convenience pkg) - - yet they are standard equipment at Audi UK.

    FWIW, these sorts of "you must get A if you want B" rules for optional equipment make some sense on a car that's being leased, but there's no accommodation if you're buying the car outright. And if you look at the UK market, the amount of mix-and-match customization is amazing in comparison to the USA.

    Maybe I'll check out the US wiring harness and if compatible, go buy a pair of Audi's electrically folding heated mirrors that they sell in the UK to be refitted on my A3...I doubt that as a 'repair part' they could cost substantially more than $500 per side.

    -hh
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    1) A full leather option on the 2.0T models. Currently the 2.0T leather option only includes leather in the middle seating surfaces, the bolter faces are made out of vinyl and they have a tendency to crack.

    2) The "Valve-Lift" version of the new TSI motor, this feature allows the engine to put out more power and torque than the base motor, and apparently gets better fuel economy to boot.

    3) Eliminate the need for the Open Sky system when ordering other options.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
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