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Changes You'd Like To See in the A3

PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 6,088
edited July 11 in Audi
What would you do to improve upon the A3? What features, specifications, or design elements would you tweak?

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  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    That won't ever happen will it?

    How about a 2.0 T Quattro A3 with more aluminum components to equal the exact same weight as the frontrack 2.0T A3?
  • Redesigned cup holders.
    You can't use the fog lights unless the headlight switch is on manual...duh..why?

    Ditto on the #3 comment on the awd issue.
  • my 2 cents from visits and drives (don't own one yet):

    Should go to aluminum block motors to reduce weight, especially in the 3.2 version which is too heavy for its size.

    Add a Non_Sports version of the 3.2 suspension as an option so the 3.2 can deal better with bad roads.

    Also narrow up the interior console. Amazing how many german cars consoles are so wide and enroach into leg room (saturn derived opels have same problem).
  • The europe-based driving test came up with some surprises.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    How about it? And price it at 30K to start.
    Dreaming.
  • Yes, Dreaming, unfortunately. The S3 runs over $50K at present, with a 4 cyl turbo.

    At least the Metalworkers union building Audis and VW's agreed to a slightly longer workweek to help reduce costs.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    That 50K price must be 30K profit.
  • I'd like to see a A3 with a turbo diesel with 150-175hp, that would be plenty speedy, (0-60 under 7.5) and fun to tinker with for the tuners, while giving stellar performance at the pump too (mid-30s combined). Id prefer RWD or AWD in my perfect car but Id settle for FWD, if it had the diesel.

    I drove an A3 after they first came out and it was beautiful. :blush: The sales rep drove it before letting me behind the wheel, she drove 80 and I felt like we were doing 55. That was an amazing feeling but it made me worry. Maybe they can do something to stop the illusion of slowness. The driver needs to be aware of how fast their going or they'll spend a lot of time stopped on the side of the road. :cry: We want to spend our money on gasoline not tickets ;)
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    RWD for me too. From my perspective, the only thing wrong with the A3 is its WWD "Wrong Wheel Drive" orientation.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • I do think that it's one of the best sorted front wheel drive cars on the market today, the Mini being the best.

    Shipo, I know you love rear wheel drive cars, but I prefer any car with a drive train that's well sorted. For instance, 2 rear wheel drive cars I'm not interested in.
    1.Any Mercedes
    2.Any Lexus
    I'd take a front drive A3 over those in a heart beat.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I'm not suggesting that the A3 isn't well sorted, because it's not. In fact, it is one of the nicest FWD rigs that I've ever driven. That said, as the A3 can already be had in AWD trim, it's not a stretch to think that it can also be built as a RWD vehicle. Right, wrong or otherwise, it is my belief that an A3 with a RWD layout would be a more balanced car at the limit than the current FWD offering, and more fun to drive to boot.

    Regarding the RWD cars that you'd rank as less desirable than the A3: Hmmm, I'm with ya on the Lexus thing, no contest. That said, I really like virtually every E-Class since the introduction of the W210, the E320 Bluetec in particular. Of course I like the MB for FAR different reasons compared to the A3. ;)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • wale_bate1wale_bate1 Posts: 1,986
    I'll take a minor exception to the Lexus ban. Let's say any current Lexus: I took the only one worth owning. Ever. IMNSHO of course.

    And, of course, once they started down the path of driving fun, they abandoned it at the first opportunity.

    Lunkheads.

    A3 as a FWDer is spanking good, but still a FWDer. Pass. As an AWDer, it interests greatly, but is still not RWD, and is heavy with the 3.2. As an S3, I could perhaps forget about the drivetrain layout.

    Yes, I'm almost certain I could...

    BTW, Merry Christmas everyone!
  • agisagis Posts: 2
    I just bought the A3 07 Premium package.
    I love this car, handles great, good pickup and gas mileage.
    My only concern is the steering feels a bit vague when you are driving straight and speeds 60 -70 mph. I feel I need to do some minor corrections to keep it straight. Would making the suspension more sporty like:
    1. Stifer shocks and springs
    2. Stronger stabilizer bars front and rear
    3. Lower suspension ( I am reading from A4 specs sport suspension)
    fix this little annoyance?
    Thanks for your inputs.
  • rlsedition posted this in the Audi AE 3 suspension thread. He found this solution quite acceptable;

    "There is a good solution to ride quality, even with the Sport package A3. It KONI FSDs, with a unique design that favors ride just as much as improved handling. A car with FSDs feels like you just "took the edges off" road imperfections like tar strips and coarse pavement. You can even pair them with Eibach Pro-Kit lowering springs for an improved appearance."

    Sounds like these are even better than the Audi Sport dampers.
  • I usually don't hear people describe Audi's as nervous. BMW's, yeah, Audi's rarely if ever.
  • Europe already has the 2.0 Turbo Diesel 170HP and the 2.0 Turbo 200HP with Quattro AWD. Audi USA just decided not to bring these options to the US. I think the Quattro 2.0T would be the most compelling addition to the US range. The 3.2 is way too expensive for this car. The A3 remains a niche car in the US. I don't think it's sales have been very good over here for whatever reason, so it seems unlikely that Audi will broaden the range.

    So you might think that the Europeans have it all, but they also sell the A3 with an anemic 102HP 1.6 motor. How sad.
  • Actually the S3 is cheaper than the A3 3.2 Quattro S-Line Fastback in Europe, which is the equivalent to the top of the line A3 available in the US. Not $50K. However the S3 only appears to come in the 2 door hatchback shape, which is very popular in Europe, and non-existant in the US.
  • huntzingerhuntzinger Posts: 350
    Things that I would have liked to have seen:

    a) A diesel motor option.

    b) Some exterior color that's NOT on the VW GTI list.

    Currently, the Azure Blue that's supposed to be available for 09 is on a "delayed introduction". No word yet as to what its ETA might be, so we might cancel the order...can save $5K if we buy a GTI, or a 2008 left-over.

    c) Cloth interior

    My wife finds cloth seats warmer in winter, but the 2009's come standard with leather. No word yet on how much the sticker price is going to jump; my guess is around $1500.

    d) Ability to get Xenon HID's without getting soaked with other 'buy extra' optional packages.

    These typically include a package that includes a sunroof, but due to medical issues, a sunroof is a liability for us.

    e) Heated outside mirrors aren't standard equipment, but should be. When you look at the options list, they cost $1000 to add ($700 cold weather package, which requires the $300 convenience pkg) - - yet they are standard equipment at Audi UK.

    FWIW, these sorts of "you must get A if you want B" rules for optional equipment make some sense on a car that's being leased, but there's no accommodation if you're buying the car outright. And if you look at the UK market, the amount of mix-and-match customization is amazing in comparison to the USA.

    Maybe I'll check out the US wiring harness and if compatible, go buy a pair of Audi's electrically folding heated mirrors that they sell in the UK to be refitted on my A3...I doubt that as a 'repair part' they could cost substantially more than $500 per side.

    -hh
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    1) A full leather option on the 2.0T models. Currently the 2.0T leather option only includes leather in the middle seating surfaces, the bolter faces are made out of vinyl and they have a tendency to crack.

    2) The "Valve-Lift" version of the new TSI motor, this feature allows the engine to put out more power and torque than the base motor, and apparently gets better fuel economy to boot.

    3) Eliminate the need for the Open Sky system when ordering other options.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • go4davego4dave Posts: 6
    First,, i'd like at least position DRIVER seat memory. The thing i hate the most, (it happened this morning) i took my car down,, to get a really good cleaning, detail and wax. The guy hands me back the keys, i give him a tip (they do a great job, everytime) i go to sit down,, but my seat,,, is as far forward, and UP as it can go. I crack my head on the door jam. I'd like to be able to move it back to that position, i worked so hard to find for around town driving. Position 2 is for those longer drives to far away cities, and then, position 3 is either for winter coat, or i'm sleepy, so i need to stay awake for a few more miles.

    Second, change. The "trunk", the "boot", the "hatch, the "freakin cargo hold", whatever you want to call it, should be 4" (100mm) wider, so, a set of golf clubs can rest sideways in the back,,, and without having to put the seat down,, to haul a set of clubs. Or worse yet, you cannot haul 4 guys, and 4 sets of golf clubs, because the golf clubs, will not lay sideways in the car. Now you have to fold the back seat down, and you can barely get 3 sets of clubs into that space, to take the driver and 2 friends out golfing.

    Third. I like the switch blade key fob thing, But, they need to recess the button, I have poked, to many holes in my pockets,,, because,, the stupid key flips out inside my pocket,, when i am working, and pokes through the pocket liner. Recess the key button,, or make it a slide out, like a USB flash drive.

    Forth, WHY can't i DIM the damn RED led dash, and center console. (plus, don't get me started on that stupid ORANGE "passenger airbag is off" in the middle of the center console) I feel like,, i can tan,, after driving to Los Angeles and back at night. The RED led, is nice,, but it gives off so much extra light,, i completely, shut done my rheostat on the analog gauages,, and still there is more then enough bleed of RED led,, that airplanes follow me.

    Fifth, convenince power, up near the dash somewhere. And maybe a couple of actual circuits in the fuse panel (switched and unswitched) that can have a fuse popped into and then plugged into on the back side of the fuse panel. Because,, we all seem to run wires ourselves,, but,, the whole piggy back off the fuse on the front side is pretty ghetto.

    Sixth,, a way to remove the front grill without having to destroy it,, or remove the entire front clip to get to the grill.

    Seventh, a passage,, with groment from the factory,, from engine compartment through the firewall,, to the passenger compart,, near the fuse panel. Most of us DIYers have to hunt,, poke,, drilll, press and prode,, to get wires into there,,, for our projects.

    Eight, the small sun visor above the rear view mirror. That seems to break,, not stay up after a while. Should actually be part of the rear view,,, and be a slide up (like the inside of the sun visor) or a roll-up (like it is now) only going the other direction. Anyway, it should be part of the mirror,, and be strong enough,, for those of us,, who want to us a radar detector,, to be able to use it as a point to clip to, or slide our mount on to or into it.

    Nine, the rear cargo area,, should have a proper rubber mat,, like the nice rubber mats, that come for the drivers and passengers. The plastic crap,, with the 2" lip,, that they sell it CRAP huge piece of SH(*&T. and why the stupid LIP,,, everytime, i put my golf clubs in the car,,, it bends the dumb thing down,, and now,, it's all tweeked outa' whack.

    Ten, better A/C,,, the air conditioning sucks,,,, but,, i do live in Vegas,, and at 120 degrees,,, it is HOT. But,, my old FORD pick-up ,, will freeze your [non-permissible content removed] outa the cab,,, in mid summer going to a job site. My A3,,, won't get the nipples hard on a crack whore in mid-winter.

    Eleven, Bigger/Better/ crossed drilled BRAKES, we all would like more horsepower,, i would like more TORQUE,,, but i also,, want to be able to stop. This is a great car,, and it's FUN TO DRIVE,,, it needs 14" rotors in the front,, so,, you can lock it down,, when stupid people,, cut you off.

    well,, that's what i have for you.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,313
    Thanks.

    The A3 was my second choice when I bought a new car a couple of months ago. Your post made me feel even better about my TSX -- excellent before, better now.

    Have fun.
  • go4davego4dave Posts: 6
    Ahh,, i've never driven the TSX...... and you have to understand,,, i LOVE my car,,,, it's fun to drive. those 11 things i mentioned are just minor things,, that i would like to see them change, or upgrade you might say. But, i truly, believe,, that i am going to move to the RS4 AVANTA WAGON QUATTRO. It's equiped with all of the above, but of course that's in Europe. It is 5 inches longer then my A3, and 4 inches wider,, so the golf clubs will fit. With the 4.2L V-8... it's gonna be my next ride. But, that will be 2011 or 2012. Anyway, i hope you didn't take my "wish" list of things that could be refined wrong. My Audi Rocks, but i'm glad your happy with your TSX.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    I'm in agreement with the many of the eleven issues listed in the post above.

    However, it's easy to dim and lower the red LED interior light output, there's a dimmer rotating dial/switch right next to the headlight knob left of the steering wheel.

    Most agreed on the A/C sucking. The AC is undersized, and might work in a Mini Cooper, but the A3 is no Mini Cooper size wise. Whenever it gets over 95 degrees, you can forget about the AC getting cold air out before 15 minutes are up. If you are on a longer drive, it should kick in after that..... that is WAY TOO long.

    Also, if it gets over 100 degrees, then it seems overpowered, and My interior is not black, and my exterior is not black... not good.

    The Leather seats should be complete leather, and not just "surfaces."

    They should let you get an S-line in cloth with DSG with the nice 3 spoke leather wrapped steering wheel with shift paddles.

    I don't know why the cloth models had to come with the ugly steering wheel with the softer suspension.
  • go4davego4dave Posts: 6
    I never looked at the S-line,, when i bought mine,, those had not come out yet.. Now that they are out,, i don't want to look,, until i am ready to buy again.
    Regarding the Rotating knob,, for dimming the LEDs,, that knob,, only dims the white light that illuminates the face of the gauges, It doesn't dim,, the digital numbers, or displays in red. If you sit in your car at night, and rotate the knob,, all the way down,, to the lowest setting, the gauges will go dark. Yet the displays, stay the same, i can't make the displays go dark,, and on a long drive,, in the desert,,, with no other lights other then my own car....... the reflection inside my windows,, and the strain my eyes sucks. I wish,, i could choose the color,,, if i can't dim them,, i could change the color,, then,,, my eyes would not be so exhausted.
  • nomowhalenomowhale Posts: 17
    I have only been driving my 2006 A3 for a about a week, but I love the 2.0T engine. I like it much better than the 225hp V6 I had in my 2003 530i that I traded in for the A3. At the top of my wish list would be a TDI engine. I had a 2004 Jetta TDI and loved the low end torque in the 100hp 1.9TDI. I have not driven the new Jetta with the 140HP TDI but I would think that engine would work well in the A3. I think the new A3 and the new Jetta will be pretty close in weight so I think the engine can get the A3 where it needs to go. 236lbs of torque will do it fine in my estimation. I know you have to drive at least 50,000 miles to get your investment back because of the additional cost of the diesel engine but I love the performance and fuel economy. I am very interested to see who brings a 4 banger diesel to the US first, BMW or Audi (if ever).
  • go4davego4dave Posts: 6
    Wow! Congrats on the A3,, and an '06 as well, that's what i have. To be honest, and straight up,,, you'll be so thankful you did. 2 things you NEED to do. You'll get better gas mileage,,, and better performance. #1 APR 91 octane flash, #2 Cold Air Intake. The first one,, got to APR website and find a dealer in your area,,, then contact them,,, it takes about 20-30mins,,, and its the best investment for your 2.0T. then, the second, do some research,, and see which you like best... i choose the Neuspeed Pro-Flo Intake, with Race Extension, and i added a GREEN Air Filter, and HYDRO SHIELD. Once you do some research, that will make sense. Since my car needs to run 91 Octane from the factory, (if you run less, there are some funny little characteristics it starts to do) my mileage went up 2.3 miles per gallon. I didn't learn about the APR flash,, until i had 11,000 miles on my car,,, and with every tank of gas,, i checked the mileage. So,, you'll love these upgrades. Have fun!!!!
  • nomowhalenomowhale Posts: 17
    Thanks for the info. I will definitely take a look. What kind of gas mileage are you getting with your car now?
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    I get a pretty consistent with my driving style (aggressive) 25 miles per gallon in mixed driving.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "I like it much better than the 225hp V6 I had in my 2003 530i that I traded in for the A3."

    I'll bet you $10,000 that your 530i did not have a 225hp V6. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, BMW has never (and hopefully will never) build a V6 engine of any size or power rating.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
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