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Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon Engine Problems

KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
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  • Looking to hear from anyone that has experienced that their engine suddenly had a mind of its own.
    About 4 or 5 month ago m wife told me that after a right hand turn and acceleration the truck had gone into 4 wheel drive...did not know how long it had been in 4 wd Drive. This happened again....still was not sure what had happened.
    Last week, after slowing down and a right hand turn, and the consequent acceleration to get going again, this vehicle seemed to have a mind of its own.
    The engine started to revv, no way to steer this vehicle, locked the brakes and knocked transmission into nutrual to bring the truck to a stop.
    Wiped out the side of the truck and a mailbox as the truck came clean across the hiway, luckily no oncoming traffic.
    Truck has be diagnostically checked by Chevrolet dealer, nothing is apparently wrong....
    If you have any info on how to proceed or if something like this has happened to you, please get in touch with me.
    Thanks
  • I`ve had the 4 wheel drive to engage after a turn 4 times but nothing else happened. You have to get it to do this when the dealer is in your truck but I couldn`t so it will just have to get worse before they can fix mine. I have had my truck 2 yrs with no other problems.
  • 2004 Colorado ext cab truck auto transmission.
    34,000 miles. pulled in our driveway twice recently after driving the truck. Immediately tried to start the truck again, and engine sounded like it wanted to turn over and start, but never started.
    has occurred 2 times in last month. dealer says nothing wrong.
    I dont buy this. next time it happens, I am towing it to dealer, and attempting to use Lemon Law. dealer says it must happen 3 times documented separately and then can apply to use lemon law.
    has any other owner had this same problem?

    My ID is ChevyDetective.
    :mad: image
  • vatakvatak Posts: 8
    If the engine didn't turn over at all it could be a starter going bad. Although 34,000 miles is way too soon for that. If it did turn over and just wouldn't start, may be a fuel pump problem? Just a couple things I had experienced with my S10 that you may want to check.
  • Just over 30,000 miles on it, yes I know I drive alot, and my truck just loses power sometimes. The last time it happened I had to put it in nuetral and acutally revv the engine before it came back to normal. Not sure if the fuel filter is going or it is the pump itself. Also I am not too sure what the mileage is to change the filter. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    in the old days that was about max mileage for a fuel filter change but who knows with these new filters and fuel injection. Of course the injectors require a clean fuel. Doing it yourself it shouldn't cost much to change. Could also be dirty injectors too.
  • 2005 Chevy Colorado Extended Cab Z71 4WD with 26,316 miles. No major problem. Only problem I have had is that they forget to tighten the powersteering fluid hose at the factory and had to return to dealer to get it fixed. I am not sure if this is a problem, but I noticed in the road that there are many Chevy Trucks that has only one working headlamp. I have had to change my driver side low beam head lamp 3 times in the last 2 years and my passenger side low beam head lamp just went out. Anyone has heared any problems about a potential electrical issue with the headlamp? It seems to be happening everywhere. Though its minor. Only $10 per bulb.

    Chevy recently had a recall regarding brake light problem that affects a host of different parts like braking, powersteering, etc... Although they have not sent out the notice to individual owners, you can find the notice in NHTSA or mygmlink.com. I found out from the dealership. I have not ran into that problem on my truck.

    Regarding your engine sputtering... since you are now at 30,000 miles, did you do the 'fuel filter replacement' requried at 25,000? That could be your problem. The fuel filter is designed only to last to 25,000 so that may be whats causing your engine to sputter. As far as locking up, it could be due to the recall.
  • jlb2jlb2 Posts: 18
    Heads up, 05- Z-71 crew, 13,000mi, Got the notice had the switch replaced and it was not properly adjusted.A few miles down the freeway[ Very hot breaks].Got a free tow and break job.Otherwise the trk has been a good one. JB. :D
  • FYI, as you all know your engine is the same one used in the H3 which is the L5 3.7 5-cyl
    There has been a recent discovery by GM & owners of Colorado, Canyon & Izuzu that the valves in the head if this engine type are somehow defective meaning that either the entire head & valves need to be replaced. Has anyone else experianced valve ticking problems or has anyone already gone through the recall process for this engine type? I know of one person in the S.F. bay area who is currently having their "H3" repaired with a 2-3 week turn around. I have not seen any official announcement over the internet but have received 2nd hand information from the owner of the H3 in which the Dealerships is prepearing for the recall. My truck is a "07" 4x4 crew cab "LS" and I have noticed a bad ticking noise in the engine with only 4k in the meter. Im in the process of seeking out more information before it gets worse.
  • hainahaina Posts: 6
    I have a 2005 4x4 I5 and have been experiencing what I thought was the Exhaust valve problem what other trucks have been experiencing. But what turns out the BUZZING and lifter knocking sound is #PIP3811 "Rattle Noise form bottom rear of engine at 2000-3000 RPM--KEYWORDS: accelerate bellhousing buzz clatter detonation end hot housing idle knock load lower ping shaft spark." Another words on rare occasions, a light detonation/rattle type noise may be experienced around 2000-3000 RPM under light load/acceleration with the engine at operating temperature. I can hear a light buzz sound when the engine is cold and I can hear a light knocking sound, like a lifter knocking at around 2000-3000 RPM only on acceleration in drive. CANNOT duplicate the sound when it is in neutral reving the engine to 2000-3000 RPM . The Dealer is aware of the Service Instruction "PIP3811" and a repair is being developed to address this noise; They have not yet found a cure to fix the problem.
    As for the Service Bulletin #04-06-04-081C Exhaust Valve Springs, they said it only applies to the I4 engine not the I5. Can someone concur with that SB?
    I hope this info can help out with anybody else experiencing this buzzing, vibration problem I now have 30,000 miles on my truck...
  • hainahaina Posts: 6
    I have also have had this problem. It has happened to me twice aswell, about 4 months apart and it has not happend in the last 6 months now. When I called the 1-800 #, they asked me if my "passlock" was lit. and I said yes. What it sounds like is there is a glitch in the anti-theft system. Both times I had to wait approximate 15 minuits before I could get it to start. I followed the manual on resetting the anti-theft system, but after numerouse attemps it finally started. The dealer told me if there was an attempt to steal your car it takes 15 min. before it can reset itself or there is a glitch in your computer that operates the anti-theft system "passlock" I hope this helps because I am too conserned on how the dealer does businesss, but if you get it documented at the dealership that there was a problem, then there is history documented you can be covered by your warranty even after it expires. And maybe they get enough complaints the engineers can look into it. I now have 30,000 miles on my truck with no real concerns...yet! Hope this helps...
  • hainahaina Posts: 6
    I came across this website that will help to see if a Service Bulletin applies to your truck or at least help in your diagnostics. www.ownersite.com I also came across the SB: "SERVICING THE IGNITION SWITCH AND/OR PASSLOCK SENSOR. *TT" That might help with our problem in the trouble of starting. I also at first thought it was my fuel pump or a clogged fuel filter, but that was not the case. Hope this helps. I have a 05 I-5 Colorado, which has 30,000.
  • Got a 2004 Canyon 5-cyl. w/ 41000 miles on it. The check engine light came on and it feels like it's running on 3 cylinders. Took it to the dealer and they said that there is a problem with the valves. The entire head and valves needed to be replaced at a cost of $3200. The warranty expired so basically I would have to pay for the repairs. However the service advisor told me that GM knew about the problem with the valves but didn't issue a recall (I guess because it would cost GM a bundle). I argued this point. Why should i pay if GM knew they had a faulty engine. The service advisor discussed it with the manager and they agreed to stand behind their product and pay for the repairs. I am supposed to get the car back this wednesday, so we'll see if they fixed the problem. I will not buy a GM product again. I bought an Envoy at the same time I bought this truck. I traded in the Envoy after so many problems came up from the CD player breaking to loose screws on the lights that i had to tighten myself. I have a Pilot in place of the Envoy. It's a world of difference when it comes to fit and finish between the honda and the GMC.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    All vehicles have problems. Honda has had theirs too. Toyota is having big problems with the new Camry and is not standing behind them, putting off the customers and saying nothing is wrong. It is supposed to drive this way. I can remember Honda doing the same a few years back. At least the General stepped up to the plate. I had a Chevy Tracker that was almost 2 years out of warranty when I had shifter problems. They had to drop the tranny as it is mounted into the top of the trany. $400 just to drop it to see what was the matter. About $1600 later it was fixed. While it was down I called GM and explained that the vehicle though was out of warranty time wise it was still about 10,000 miles under warranty. I also told them it had had all maintainance, even stuff like drain and new fluid in tranny even though it wasn't ready and they covered all but $360. I was impressed. I bet a weeks pay none of the foreign makers would go that extra mile. Heck sometimes you can even get them to step up to the plate and fix what is wrong during warranty. Check here on the Camry 2007 forum and listen to them cry big tears.
  • Well the Canyon and the Envoy are the first GM cars I've ever purchased. I've only driven Honda's Acura's and BMW's. The Canyon and Envoy are the first cars I've had that have had problems before 130k miles. Service wise though the worst car company is Volkswagon. They are complete jerks to deal with when it comes to warranty repairs or any service for that matter. BMW is the greatest when it comes to service. They even give you a loaner car while your car gets serviced.
  • I have a 2004 Colorado 5-cyl. w/46000 miles, and am having the same problems you described. I was told yesterday that the head is on back order from GM, and is not expected until March 1st. Does this seem like a reasonable wait time? As you experienced, the cost is not coming out of my pockets, but the inconvience is. This is not my first GM product, but this is the first time I have had any problems like this. I will withhold final judgment until I see how the whole scenario play out.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    My question is can you still drive the truck? If not did they give you a comparable vehicle? If it is driveable I wouldn't worry. If not and they gave me a small piece of crap to drive than I would be upset. It does seem a little long of a wait too. Have you called the GM line to see if they can hurry it up. Just be nice when you call.
  • I took my Canyon in Jan 11th i think. The service advisor said that he should be getting the head next week and the repairs should be complete Jan 28th. So if i do in fact get my truck back on time then your wait time of March 1st is ridiculous. My big question is did GM fix the problem and ship us a revised head or are they just going to send us an original head that I will have the same problem 10k miles down the road. I am betting on the latter happening that is why I will be trading in the truck once the repairs are done.
  • The truck is torn down for repair, the head is off so it is not driveable. The Chevy dealership doing the repair work does not have loaners, and the dealership where I bought the truck, not a GM dealership, is helping a little.

    I called GM customer service, with no luck. GM politly said they could not help because the dealership is not GM.

    Do you, or anyone have a better number for GM? It would be nice to know when the head is being shipped. Also, if they are shipping a new head, or just replacing selected parts.
  • ckameyckamey Posts: 2
    I am having similar problems. After 2 months the check engine light came on and I had the following work done on my engine: SPRING, CAP AND/OR SEAL, VALVE REPLACED. I've now owned the vehicle for 2 and a half years the check engine light recently came on again. This time the entire Cylinder Head has to be replaced at a cost of nearly $4,000. Of course the vehicle is out of warranty. I've been fighting with GM customer service for 3 weeks now, and they tell me that they may pay for some of the costs if I get it done at a GM dealership, but they can't make a decision until after I've paid GM for the work. Sounds like BS to me, but it's good to know that my Colorado isn't the only piece of crap out there.
  • I have the same engine and it's in the dealership right now. I have 80000 miles (95% freeway)and the check engine light came. They diagnosed and I was informed that it needs a new head. Two days before, my friend who I pushed to buy the same model brought the truck in and was diagnosed with the same problem only her's has 35000 miles on it. I went to check on my truck and found out that there was another Colorado that has the same problem. I called GM and was informed that since I have 80000 miles on it, there is a slim chance that they will cover the expenses. But I will fight them. It will cost me $4000.00 to fix the problem and that's a lot of money.
  • :mad: Well my truck has been at the dealer for 3 weeks now waiting for the head, with no set date for arrival of the part. My service advisor told me that 4 more canyons came in with the same problem these past 2 weeks. I'm so glad I didn't recommend this piece of GM crap to any of my friends. I use this truck for work so this has been a huge inconvenience to my business, having to use my 2006 civic to haul around supplies.
  • Good for you. Now I'm a bit embarassed when I see my friend. I am now using my 87 Toyota P/U 4 cyl, with 250,000 miles on it. Never burns oil, runs good and I get better mileage.
    As soon as the Colorado is repaired, I am trading it with either a Frontier or Tacoma.
    I thought that 5 cyl technology came from the Europeans, BMW, Mercedes and Volvo, then the Colorado would be on the same plain but as you said it is a piece of crap!
  • Well it's been 3 and a half weeks and I just got back my canyon from the dealer. They replaced the head and some other parts and warranty covered the expenses. The truck is not the same. The check engine light is off but it doesn't have the same acceleration and response as before. The engine sounds horrible. Well I sold it to Carmax about 2 hrs after i got it back from the dealer. They actually gave me $11500 for it, I was pleasantly suprised by the amount. I am so glad I got that liability of my back. I can't imagine paying 4k to repair a truck that i still owe 10k on.
  • :mad: My Colorado is still in the shop; it's been 4 weeks now and they still don't have a shipping date :mad: ! One major change, they did finally cough up with a rental (on their dime) until they get my truck done. It is my intention to ensure everyone I know NOT to waste their money on a Colorado. I am thankful I am not having to pay for the repair, like stated earlier, the cost is around $4100.
  • Mine is going on its third week. They said that it will take another week for the head to arrive. Meantime, I'm using a rental too.

    Thanks for the info about the rental.

    I wrote GM a letter of complaint. I also spoke to the General Manager of the dealership here told him about my situation. I hope he can do something to get GM to pay for the repair.
    I am thinking of trading it even at this stage. I am not sure if I'm going to get another Chevy.
  • j420j420 Posts: 3
    I purchased my 06 reg cab 4wd canyon in December. This is my first Truck and I was not sure what to expect. The Canyon has good looks and drives nice,(or at least I think)so I purchased one.
    I had the Truck 2 days and as I was driving on the highway and the 4wd L light started to flash. I thought since the location of the 4wd L button is relatively close to the radio that maybe I hit it while adjusting the radio. I pull off the highway and turn the truck off and the light reset s.
    The next day (day 3 after buying the truck) the 4wd L light begins to flash again after driving on the highway for about 40 miles. I then drive to the dealer and talk to a service tech, while talking to the tech in my truck the engine light comes on. They tell me to bring it back the following monday.
    I bring the truck back and leave it with them all day. I pick it up that evening and the dealer informs me that the 4x4 TCCM and the ECM are bad and need to replaced. The dealer orders the parts but cant get them until after the New Year. So they rest the engine light and tell me to make sure I use gas from a high volume gas station to prevent the chance it was bad gas. So I accept this and take the truck, about 3 days later we had a unusually warm day so I decide to run the AC only to find it does not work. I took the truck back to the dealer after the parts can in and informed them the AC did not work and left it with all day again. I come back and pick up the truck and they say it is fixed so I get in and drive away.
    One week later while driving to go skiing the 4wd L light starts flashing again, needless to say Im starting to get irrated now. I take sharp turn and found a atv trail dropped the truck into 4wd L and start flinging mud around and climbing hills I thought if it was going to break I was going to break it now. After I had my fun and got out my frustration I got back on the road and would you believe that this particular problem is gone now(go figure).
    Now three weeks later the engine light has come back on. I took it back to the dealer and kept it for a day and told me that it was a misfire code PO300 they rest and said that there is bulletin found Doc#1885534 (which I cant find) and they open a track case #9370405 for my vehicle. The dealer told me to monitor the truck and again told me to use good regular fuel. I had the truck back a whole day and the engine light came on again. Im going back to the dealer tomorrow and see what they say now. Has anyone else had anything close to these problems or is just my luck to pick a dud for a truck.
  • cdf1cdf1 Posts: 3
    It all started with the eng service lite,It a 05 canyon crew sle with 63k. The dealer said it needed a head that was 5 weeks ago. I did have warr. In witch I think is only helping with the rental (5) days the truck sat the rest of the time and I used a spare at work until the head came in. (1000 back orders in Canada) there is a service note on the motor and all involved should push your dealer about it. Hope you got it serviced at the dealer. Its been in for 9 days and I thought I was getting it back fri. but the crank seal started to leak thats because they dropped the timing chain and had to take the front cover off. I hope to get it back at noon today. More to tell if interested. Overall love the truck.
  • j420j420 Posts: 3
    Well it looks like the tech at the dealer has found the problem to be the valve springs and is ordering a new head as well. They were able to find the problem doing a leak down test on the engine which found 3 leaks in the engine. So this is a old problem from 04-06 Canyon and Colorado trucks.
  • Finally got word from the dealership and GM is taking care of everything including my car rental. I did a lot of arguing, about two weeks, but it paid off. So for those of you who are still having problems with GM, don't lose heart. I think they're finally realizing that this is not an isolated case. So keep on pounding at GM's doors. Good Luck!
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