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Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon Engine Problems

KCRam@EdmundsKCRam@Edmunds Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,497
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  • Looking to hear from anyone that has experienced that their engine suddenly had a mind of its own.
    About 4 or 5 month ago m wife told me that after a right hand turn and acceleration the truck had gone into 4 wheel drive...did not know how long it had been in 4 wd Drive. This happened again....still was not sure what had happened.
    Last week, after slowing down and a right hand turn, and the consequent acceleration to get going again, this vehicle seemed to have a mind of its own.
    The engine started to revv, no way to steer this vehicle, locked the brakes and knocked transmission into nutrual to bring the truck to a stop.
    Wiped out the side of the truck and a mailbox as the truck came clean across the hiway, luckily no oncoming traffic.
    Truck has be diagnostically checked by Chevrolet dealer, nothing is apparently wrong....
    If you have any info on how to proceed or if something like this has happened to you, please get in touch with me.
    Thanks
  • I`ve had the 4 wheel drive to engage after a turn 4 times but nothing else happened. You have to get it to do this when the dealer is in your truck but I couldn`t so it will just have to get worse before they can fix mine. I have had my truck 2 yrs with no other problems.
  • 2004 Colorado ext cab truck auto transmission.
    34,000 miles. pulled in our driveway twice recently after driving the truck. Immediately tried to start the truck again, and engine sounded like it wanted to turn over and start, but never started.
    has occurred 2 times in last month. dealer says nothing wrong.
    I dont buy this. next time it happens, I am towing it to dealer, and attempting to use Lemon Law. dealer says it must happen 3 times documented separately and then can apply to use lemon law.
    has any other owner had this same problem?

    My ID is ChevyDetective.
    :mad: image
  • vatakvatak Posts: 8
    If the engine didn't turn over at all it could be a starter going bad. Although 34,000 miles is way too soon for that. If it did turn over and just wouldn't start, may be a fuel pump problem? Just a couple things I had experienced with my S10 that you may want to check.
  • Just over 30,000 miles on it, yes I know I drive alot, and my truck just loses power sometimes. The last time it happened I had to put it in nuetral and acutally revv the engine before it came back to normal. Not sure if the fuel filter is going or it is the pump itself. Also I am not too sure what the mileage is to change the filter. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    in the old days that was about max mileage for a fuel filter change but who knows with these new filters and fuel injection. Of course the injectors require a clean fuel. Doing it yourself it shouldn't cost much to change. Could also be dirty injectors too.
  • 2005 Chevy Colorado Extended Cab Z71 4WD with 26,316 miles. No major problem. Only problem I have had is that they forget to tighten the powersteering fluid hose at the factory and had to return to dealer to get it fixed. I am not sure if this is a problem, but I noticed in the road that there are many Chevy Trucks that has only one working headlamp. I have had to change my driver side low beam head lamp 3 times in the last 2 years and my passenger side low beam head lamp just went out. Anyone has heared any problems about a potential electrical issue with the headlamp? It seems to be happening everywhere. Though its minor. Only $10 per bulb.

    Chevy recently had a recall regarding brake light problem that affects a host of different parts like braking, powersteering, etc... Although they have not sent out the notice to individual owners, you can find the notice in NHTSA or mygmlink.com. I found out from the dealership. I have not ran into that problem on my truck.

    Regarding your engine sputtering... since you are now at 30,000 miles, did you do the 'fuel filter replacement' requried at 25,000? That could be your problem. The fuel filter is designed only to last to 25,000 so that may be whats causing your engine to sputter. As far as locking up, it could be due to the recall.
  • jlb2jlb2 Posts: 18
    Heads up, 05- Z-71 crew, 13,000mi, Got the notice had the switch replaced and it was not properly adjusted.A few miles down the freeway[ Very hot breaks].Got a free tow and break job.Otherwise the trk has been a good one. JB. :D
  • FYI, as you all know your engine is the same one used in the H3 which is the L5 3.7 5-cyl
    There has been a recent discovery by GM & owners of Colorado, Canyon & Izuzu that the valves in the head if this engine type are somehow defective meaning that either the entire head & valves need to be replaced. Has anyone else experianced valve ticking problems or has anyone already gone through the recall process for this engine type? I know of one person in the S.F. bay area who is currently having their "H3" repaired with a 2-3 week turn around. I have not seen any official announcement over the internet but have received 2nd hand information from the owner of the H3 in which the Dealerships is prepearing for the recall. My truck is a "07" 4x4 crew cab "LS" and I have noticed a bad ticking noise in the engine with only 4k in the meter. Im in the process of seeking out more information before it gets worse.
  • hainahaina Posts: 6
    I have a 2005 4x4 I5 and have been experiencing what I thought was the Exhaust valve problem what other trucks have been experiencing. But what turns out the BUZZING and lifter knocking sound is #PIP3811 "Rattle Noise form bottom rear of engine at 2000-3000 RPM--KEYWORDS: accelerate bellhousing buzz clatter detonation end hot housing idle knock load lower ping shaft spark." Another words on rare occasions, a light detonation/rattle type noise may be experienced around 2000-3000 RPM under light load/acceleration with the engine at operating temperature. I can hear a light buzz sound when the engine is cold and I can hear a light knocking sound, like a lifter knocking at around 2000-3000 RPM only on acceleration in drive. CANNOT duplicate the sound when it is in neutral reving the engine to 2000-3000 RPM . The Dealer is aware of the Service Instruction "PIP3811" and a repair is being developed to address this noise; They have not yet found a cure to fix the problem.
    As for the Service Bulletin #04-06-04-081C Exhaust Valve Springs, they said it only applies to the I4 engine not the I5. Can someone concur with that SB?
    I hope this info can help out with anybody else experiencing this buzzing, vibration problem I now have 30,000 miles on my truck...
  • hainahaina Posts: 6
    I have also have had this problem. It has happened to me twice aswell, about 4 months apart and it has not happend in the last 6 months now. When I called the 1-800 #, they asked me if my "passlock" was lit. and I said yes. What it sounds like is there is a glitch in the anti-theft system. Both times I had to wait approximate 15 minuits before I could get it to start. I followed the manual on resetting the anti-theft system, but after numerouse attemps it finally started. The dealer told me if there was an attempt to steal your car it takes 15 min. before it can reset itself or there is a glitch in your computer that operates the anti-theft system "passlock" I hope this helps because I am too conserned on how the dealer does businesss, but if you get it documented at the dealership that there was a problem, then there is history documented you can be covered by your warranty even after it expires. And maybe they get enough complaints the engineers can look into it. I now have 30,000 miles on my truck with no real concerns...yet! Hope this helps...
  • hainahaina Posts: 6
    I came across this website that will help to see if a Service Bulletin applies to your truck or at least help in your diagnostics. www.ownersite.com I also came across the SB: "SERVICING THE IGNITION SWITCH AND/OR PASSLOCK SENSOR. *TT" That might help with our problem in the trouble of starting. I also at first thought it was my fuel pump or a clogged fuel filter, but that was not the case. Hope this helps. I have a 05 I-5 Colorado, which has 30,000.
  • Got a 2004 Canyon 5-cyl. w/ 41000 miles on it. The check engine light came on and it feels like it's running on 3 cylinders. Took it to the dealer and they said that there is a problem with the valves. The entire head and valves needed to be replaced at a cost of $3200. The warranty expired so basically I would have to pay for the repairs. However the service advisor told me that GM knew about the problem with the valves but didn't issue a recall (I guess because it would cost GM a bundle). I argued this point. Why should i pay if GM knew they had a faulty engine. The service advisor discussed it with the manager and they agreed to stand behind their product and pay for the repairs. I am supposed to get the car back this wednesday, so we'll see if they fixed the problem. I will not buy a GM product again. I bought an Envoy at the same time I bought this truck. I traded in the Envoy after so many problems came up from the CD player breaking to loose screws on the lights that i had to tighten myself. I have a Pilot in place of the Envoy. It's a world of difference when it comes to fit and finish between the honda and the GMC.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    All vehicles have problems. Honda has had theirs too. Toyota is having big problems with the new Camry and is not standing behind them, putting off the customers and saying nothing is wrong. It is supposed to drive this way. I can remember Honda doing the same a few years back. At least the General stepped up to the plate. I had a Chevy Tracker that was almost 2 years out of warranty when I had shifter problems. They had to drop the tranny as it is mounted into the top of the trany. $400 just to drop it to see what was the matter. About $1600 later it was fixed. While it was down I called GM and explained that the vehicle though was out of warranty time wise it was still about 10,000 miles under warranty. I also told them it had had all maintainance, even stuff like drain and new fluid in tranny even though it wasn't ready and they covered all but $360. I was impressed. I bet a weeks pay none of the foreign makers would go that extra mile. Heck sometimes you can even get them to step up to the plate and fix what is wrong during warranty. Check here on the Camry 2007 forum and listen to them cry big tears.
  • Well the Canyon and the Envoy are the first GM cars I've ever purchased. I've only driven Honda's Acura's and BMW's. The Canyon and Envoy are the first cars I've had that have had problems before 130k miles. Service wise though the worst car company is Volkswagon. They are complete jerks to deal with when it comes to warranty repairs or any service for that matter. BMW is the greatest when it comes to service. They even give you a loaner car while your car gets serviced.
  • I have a 2004 Colorado 5-cyl. w/46000 miles, and am having the same problems you described. I was told yesterday that the head is on back order from GM, and is not expected until March 1st. Does this seem like a reasonable wait time? As you experienced, the cost is not coming out of my pockets, but the inconvience is. This is not my first GM product, but this is the first time I have had any problems like this. I will withhold final judgment until I see how the whole scenario play out.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    My question is can you still drive the truck? If not did they give you a comparable vehicle? If it is driveable I wouldn't worry. If not and they gave me a small piece of crap to drive than I would be upset. It does seem a little long of a wait too. Have you called the GM line to see if they can hurry it up. Just be nice when you call.
  • I took my Canyon in Jan 11th i think. The service advisor said that he should be getting the head next week and the repairs should be complete Jan 28th. So if i do in fact get my truck back on time then your wait time of March 1st is ridiculous. My big question is did GM fix the problem and ship us a revised head or are they just going to send us an original head that I will have the same problem 10k miles down the road. I am betting on the latter happening that is why I will be trading in the truck once the repairs are done.
  • The truck is torn down for repair, the head is off so it is not driveable. The Chevy dealership doing the repair work does not have loaners, and the dealership where I bought the truck, not a GM dealership, is helping a little.

    I called GM customer service, with no luck. GM politly said they could not help because the dealership is not GM.

    Do you, or anyone have a better number for GM? It would be nice to know when the head is being shipped. Also, if they are shipping a new head, or just replacing selected parts.
  • ckameyckamey Posts: 2
    I am having similar problems. After 2 months the check engine light came on and I had the following work done on my engine: SPRING, CAP AND/OR SEAL, VALVE REPLACED. I've now owned the vehicle for 2 and a half years the check engine light recently came on again. This time the entire Cylinder Head has to be replaced at a cost of nearly $4,000. Of course the vehicle is out of warranty. I've been fighting with GM customer service for 3 weeks now, and they tell me that they may pay for some of the costs if I get it done at a GM dealership, but they can't make a decision until after I've paid GM for the work. Sounds like BS to me, but it's good to know that my Colorado isn't the only piece of crap out there.
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