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Honda Accord Tires and Wheels

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  • I know this has been beat to death in many forums, but has anyone had personal experience dropping to a T from a H? I tried searching the forums, but seemed to find opinions and not anyone who actually has done this with a 08 or newer Accord. I have a 08 sedan w/5speed manual that I want to replace the stock 215/60 16H Dunflop 7000's at 39k. I really would like to get Hankook H727's, but they only have T's. I like the Dunlops handling but they have been noisy from the start, and get worse the more they wear. What I'm looking for is a quieter tire, a little better ride, decent life (60k), and won't break the bank. I know, picky aren't I? I just wanted to know of anyone with firsthand experience on the safety aspect and how their car handled with a drop in speed rating. I'm looking at spending not much over $500, so that cuts out a number of popular tires. Kelly Navigator Touring Golds or BF Goodrich Advantage T/A's are in my price range and both come in a H. I've got another week or so before I'll be able to have the moolah to spring for a set. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    There is a silly notion that you can't ever go down a speed rating. If the car comes with an overrated tire there is no reason you can't go down. My Accord came with V rated tires good for 150 mph. I will certainly replace them with H rated for 130 which is much closer to the top speed of the car - and even that is overkill as I will never drive that fast.

    Going to a T is a little dicier because you are down to 118 mph and the car could potentially go faster than that. If you are comfortable it is your car - go for it. 118 mph is go directly to jail in every state even Montana now.

    Also, as far as speed rating go, I run Q rated winter tires which are only good to 98 mph a speed almost every new car on the road can best, yet most winter tires are Q rated.

    You should look at consumer reports, they test tires and Michelin makes the top rated touring tire and it is H rated. Primacy MXV4 Sams club sells them and there is a $70 rebate if you buy 4. I will get these in the spring when I take off the snows.

    I also have a stick - keep shifting and don't turn to the dark side.
  • Dudley - thanks for the reply. I just wasn't sure because this is the first car I've owned that has H rated tires as OEM. Actually this is my first Accord. As far as driving to the top end of T's - 118mph - 'taint gonna happen as long as I'm behind the wheel! I got over that a long time ago. I still like to throw it around the clover leaf and wind the v-tec up to get to the speed limit quickly :) It was a blast driving up Big Thompson Canyon out in Colorado this last summer with the manual tranny. How does your car ride and handle with Q rated tires? Michelin is a little out of my price range. I am going to buy from a local shop, a person I trust with anything I drive. He can order most anything from several wholesalers in the area. I've heard too many horror stories from the chain stores. Heck, I even had my tires rotated at the Honda dealer once and the guy over torqued the lug nuts! I found it out when I had a flat tire, unfortunately.
  • Dudley, I just found this Consumer Reports article. link title They make it sound like I had better stick with H's. :confuse:
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    The Q's I have are not the greatest on dry roads, the Accord looses some of its edge, but that is because they are snow tires, not because of the Q rating.

    Any official publication is going to recommend the most conservative choice as they don't want to get sued on the off chance some yahoo goes too fast. Here is where I am coming from. If the base model has T rated tires and the mid model has H rated tires and the top model has V rated tires are you really obligated to put back V rated tires if they all have the same top speed? Pros don't want amateurs to make decisions so they will say put the same rating on. But intuitively if it is the same car with the same engine and transmission then it can use the same tires as the base model.

    Not sure what the base Accord had for ratings, but I know in my case the SE had V and the LX has H so I am fine with H I have a 2007 SE 4 cyl stick. You could take a peek and see what the most basic Accord has for speed ratings at the dealer and you should be fine with that.

    If you are not confident then just go with an H - tires are relatively cheap and tires like the Michelin will save you money with low rolling resistance.
  • I have the base model LX, so H it is. It will be a couple of weeks before I have enough moolah to get them put on. I managed to injure both my thumbs, not at the same time mind you, so am on workman's comp awaiting a specialists appointment. It does pay better than temp. disability, but still not 100%, hence the $500 spending limit. Hopefully my right thumb won't be too sore after surgery or it might be painful to shift. Might have to settle for driving my old Camry with the awfulmatic. Ack!! :P
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,444
    See if your local guy can get continental tires. They have a new low rolling resistance model that CR also liked a lot and it is cheaper than the Michelin. I think About $85 or $90 per tire.
  • Thanks Dudley, I'll look into it.
  • Assuming the tire of choice is the Michelin Primacy MXV4 -- an expensive choice, no doubt -- the question is V or H rated. Here in Detroit (Discount Tire) the difference is about $100 for the set. Now, 100 bucks is nothing to sneeze at, but...

    I'm not entirely convinced it is simply a matter of how fast you intend to drive. If it were, I'd go with the H, since 80 mph is just about tops for me, generally speaking. But, having read through the 450 or so reviews at Tire Rack, the V rated tire does appear to provide the more stable ride, even at moderate highway speeds, and especially in windy conditions. Something to consider when I'm ready to buy.

    Then again, I may just decide that I don't need Michelins after all. H or V, it is a lot of money, and I could get by with something cheaper. Still undecided...
  • Although the higher speed rated tire may handle better, you do loose a little when it comes to ride comfort. The stiffer sidewall does effect ride quality.

    I still have the OEM Michelin tires on my 04 Accord, and when I replace them I will be looking for a softer tire to get a smoother ride. I really like the car except when driving rougher roads.

    Mrbill
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    In that case you want to consider the Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tread Tire. The most comfortable,quiet,smooth,and bump absorbing tire I've had on my 02 Accord V6. Slight loss of mpg and handling. GACT Touring for more mpg and better handling. Get 'em at Discount Tire. Free rotations,balance,air. Keep up with the 6,000 mile rotations and get a prorated credit on your next set of tires. Warranty 80,000/6years. Hope this helps.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    I concluded the load index is more important than the speed rating.
  • Yes, you are right, it would be nice to get less road feedback with the Accord. And it may be that the H rated tire gives better gas mileage as well (some market watchers see $5/gallon just around the corner).

    And, since your OEM Michelins are six years old, chances are you'll be replacing before I do (mine are only 4 yrs/17,000). I'd be very interested if you do decide to go with the Primacy H option. If you get the better ride you're looking for, you may very well make my mind up for me. To get the overall better tire and spend less money doing it makes good sense, to be sure.
  • Well, since you have previously defined yourself as "an unexciting person," we are probably on the same page when it comes to tires(!)

    What's the speed rating on the Goodyear ComforTreds you chose? At the Tire Rack site, I see that the V-rated Goodyear is about the same price as the H-rated Michelin Primacy.
  • mrbill1957mrbill1957 Posts: 818
    edited January 2011
    As others already mentioned, Goodyear makes a "Comfort Tread" branded tire.

    I had recommended that tire to a family member for his SUV which rode very rough. He installed the Comfort Tread tires and was thrilled with the difference in ride. The difference was substantial and they decided to keep the vehicle longer now that it rides much better.

    The Comfort Tread tire is at the top of my list so far as a replacement tire for my Accord. I only have 40K miles on the car (I have an older truck I mainly drive) and the OEM tires look like new yet, so it may be a while before they are replaced. I'm willing to sacrafice a little handling and maybe a mpg or two, and with the max speed limit in WI at 65, I don't see the need for high speed ratings.

    Mrbill
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    The previous set of CTs were 92t,i think. The current Tourings are 94h. The Cts are quieter and more comfortable than the Tourings but don't handle as precisely, or get as good mpg. The Oem Michelins always last about 45k for me. The Cts last about 30k for me. Just keep up with the required 6k rotations with DT and you will get a prorated credit when they wear out early. My last credit was $288.
  • I don't find that there is any model of the CT's but the Assurance CT Touring that is currently available. At Discount Tire the tire is rated at 91V, and sells for $120. Here in Detroit, the "out the door" price for the set is $584, which sits well with me. V rated Primacy's would cost me 200 bucks more.

    This is all planning ahead for me, probably by a year or two, so it's a tire on my "watch list," for the time being.

    One minor complaint I've noticed is that the tire does not have a rim guard, which means (I guess) that the rim is more exposed than it would be with most other tires. I'm not sure what to make of that. Maybe it's just nit-picking.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Just checked the dt site clicking "tires by brand". 92t for CTs and 94h for the Tourings.
  • "Just checked the dt site clicking "tires by brand". 92t for CTs and 94h for the Tourings."

    Those specs are for 15" (LX). For my car (EX, 16"), the options differ. Only the Touring model is listed.
  • packer3packer3 Posts: 277
    edited January 2011
    Stay with the Dunlops, I know people who have the Michleins and they are noiser. I use to work at a tire shop up until around 10 years ago part time I never liked Dunlops hard rubber poor grip. Until I leased an 08 Accord with the Dunlops boy what a difference unreal grip in the rain and snow, turned the car in with 25,000 miles and the thread was still deep I would say there was another 20 to 25 K miles left on them.
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  • Packer3, the Dunlop 7000's on my car have given respectable service for only being rated at only 320. They have worn evenly, and the dry traction and cornering is good. When it comes to snow they are like banana peels. From brand new they were noisy on quite a few roads in my neck of the woods. Yesterday I had a tire dealer order me some Goodyear Comfortred Tourings. Out the door was $612.04 - $80 rebate= $532.04. They have a 30 day like em or return em guarantee. They also throw in lifetime rotation for free which is always a good deal. I'm hoping for better snow traction, less noise and a bit better ride perhaps. I run Dunlop SP60's on my old 97 Camry, and I really like their snow grip and ability to stick to cloverleafs. Noisy as heck unless I'm on smoothest roads. I'll post after I get them installed. They have them on backorder, but were going to try to get them from another source.
  • I forgot to mention that I had to give up hope for the Michelins due to the price. My pockets weren't deep enough. Tire rack had them for a pretty good price with that rebate that just expired. I would rather get my tires closer to home though.
  • I've used Tire Rack several times and completely satisfied with the experience. That said, I have had good and bad experiences with almost every tire brand out there. Currently have 3 accords, 2 have Kumho KH16. One set (16inch) is acceptable. The other (15inch) has been outstanding. My other accord has Michelin Primacy's (2nd set) and have had great experience with them, although not sure if I want to spend the $$ the next time.
  • I ordered a set of General Altimax RT's once from Tread Depot. 3 tires were made in Mexico, only a couple of months old, but the 4th was about a year and a half old and made in Brazil. Kind of soured me from buying online. I did consider the Kumho KH16's before deciding on the Comfortreds. I did get them put on yesterday finally. They are quieter and ride better than the Dunlops. Kinda like comparing apples to oranges I guess. High performance all-season vs grand touring. On the negative side they aren't as responsive and the snow traction isn't a whole lot better. I have only put on about 50 miles on them so far, so it's a little too early to say if I really like them or not.
  • rose007rose007 Posts: 2
    edited January 2011
    I have Honda Accord 2003 LX, and purchased my car in San Francisco Bay Area in California.
    I want to go to Reno/Tahoe this winter, but I have never drove my car in snow, and I was wondering if my tires are all seasoned tires, or will be required to purchase the tire chains when I drive in snow. If so, I would like to know what "size and type of tire chains" I should buy, and I prefer something easy to put on. but it would be depending on the price. (I also would like to know the Tire chain price). Where can I find the source(s) to look up the information?
    I searched Honda dealer web site, Wikipedia, and this Edmunds web site/forum, but I couldn't find the information.

    Thanks for your advice in advance.
  • JCwhitney.com should have chains that fit your car...I think you actually want "traction cables" not true chains. I believe there is some information about them in your owner's manual. They are sized by your tire size. Walmart/Kmart/Sears typically has them also. Winter tires will perform better than all season tires in snow and ice but it may not be necessary for 1 trip. Newer (lots of tread depth) all season tires might be fine.
    In "chain up" areas, typically people will install your chains/cables for you for a fee. I did it myself but I practiced installing them in a warm location so I'd be able to do it quickly in the cold.
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    As was already suggested, check your owner's manual for chain recommendations. You can also go to an auto parts store for help with the correct size. Since you are in the Bay Area, you can visit a Les Schwab store (as one option) for help. They have a return policy that lets you take unused chains back for a full refund in the spring.

    You may or may not need them on your trip. If you encounter snow, slowing down and taking it easy may be all you need. Your car will do okay with all-season tires if the snow isn't too bad, especially if it is mostly flat. Chains might be necessary for mountain passes or extreme conditions.

    As for price, you'll probably pay somewhere around $70 for chains. Again, call a reputable auto parts store and give them your tire size to get a more exact price.

    This is a link to Les Schwab's chain page for more info but you may want to check other places too. There is a video here that shows you how to put them on and it gives some fairly good advice about chains in general. Less Schwab Chains
  • Thanks for your great advice. I just checked and found my tires/wheels specifications from owner's manual. I will check out the both suggested local stores soon.

    Thanks!!
  • aamixyaamixy Posts: 69
    Hi all, the tires on my 2007 Honda Accord SE v6 almost reach their lifetime. I am looking for some inexpensive tires to replace. On Discount Tire's website, I found a band called Riken. Has anyone tried this brand? The reviews on the website have high and lows and I am a little concerned about the "grip" ability, as the stock tires slips badly. Thanks for your input!!
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