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Hyundai Elantra: Reviews & News from the Pros (Edmunds, C/D, CR, MT etc.)

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  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    You call 6 airgags minor difference? :sick:

    Did the Elantra get crashed DURING the review? No.

    The number of airbags is not going to affect the way the car drives.
  • but missing the airbags certainly contributed to the reviewer's conclusion that it "feels cheap". Besides, i wouldn't be surprised if the aussie models differ in other aspects that may affect its handling.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    but missing the airbags certainly contributed to the reviewer's conclusion that it "feels cheap".

    I disagree about the airbags contributing to feeling cheap.

    I also disagree that the car feels cheap overall. There are only two small items in the interior that I would consider cheaply or poorly done. The storage compartment on the top center of the dash and the storage compartment on the center console (below the climate controls) opening mechanisms both felt cheap to me.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    If I wanted to nit-pick, I'd say the non-damped coin box/ashtray (was damped in the '04-'06 Elantras) and the plastic (vs. metal) interior door handles feel a bit cheap--until I remember the price point of the car and the fact that not even a $30k Azera or Santa Fe has metal door handles.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    If I wanted to nit-pick I could make a long list of faults.
    I'm fully aware of the class that Elantra is in and it's competitors Corolla, Mazda3, Sentra, Rabbit, Cobalt at similar price points have certain items that may be improved upon.

    I like the Elantra and am a fan of several recent Hyundai products, yet I am not so thin skinned that I am offended when viewpoints not worshiping Hyundai products are made.

    The only car in this class that I feel would be offending to own would be the Cobalt. Cobalt (or Crapbolt) is the topic of a different discussion....
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    I think you are under the misconception that my post was somehow directed at you. It was not. It was my exercise in picking nits on the interior, to add to the list of issues you mentioned.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    edmunds now has their full test on the elantra ready to be, well read. Interesting points, i will say i was impressed with the hyundai's performance, but it seems that even edmunds has noticed hyundai's trend for identity crisis; corolla comparisons abound and a reference to the guage's being 'just like volkswagens' in coloration is also noted. As is the interior plastics that woud never find their way into a civic. ;)
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Muchas gracias pat! Se aprecia mucho.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    So having blue interior lighting like a Volkswagen is a bad thing? Some people have carped about the green lighting on the old Elantras (other than the GT, which always had purplish-blue lighting). So Hyundai changed it. The reviewers seemed to like it.

    If it looks like a current-gen Corolla, it's the best-looking Corolla I've ever seen. No Corolla has the upswept greenhouse in back, the windows behind the rear doors, and the wave-ish character line on the sides. No Corolla has the aggressive front-end styling of the Elantra. Someday I wish Hyundai would make a car with six wheels, a lightbar across the front end, and a huge fin on top of the car. It would look hideous, but no one would say, "It looks just like [name of Japanese car]."

    BTW, the comment about some plastics not finding their way into a Civic is because the platics in the Elantra are far too tasteful to fit in the Civic's weird interior. ;)

    While the review was overwhelmingly positive, the comment about tricky clutch engagement was puzzling, since no other review--professional or otherwise--I have read about the car have mentioned that. In fact other reviews have praised the smooth clutch and shifter. So I wonder if Edmunds got car with a glitch in the clutch?
  • it seems that even edmunds has noticed hyundai's trend for identity crisis

    There is no such thing as a completely original set of ideas. Humans tend to favor recognizable influences. This happens in all areas - car design, arts, music, etc. Comparisons are made to Corolla because people recognize Toyota as a quality manufacturer. VW's gauge lighting has been copied by virtually every car maker to some extent over the last 6 years. The reason for this is simple - people like it.

    ...is also noted. As is the interior plastics that woud never find their way into a civic

    I read the review twice, and must have missed that comment. Could you site that reference for me, or did it come from another review elsewhere? Here is what Edmunds did say about Elantra's interior.

    the 2007 Hyundai Elantra has a cabin with a surprising combination of good design and good materials.

    and

    Hyundai hasn't got the image Honda has in the U.S., but once you take a test-drive, you'll realize that the Korean company is trying hard to deliver the same spirit of practicality and fun that you find in every Honda Civic.

    In fact, the only time any form of the word "cheap" appears in a comparison with the Civic can be found here:

    Consider that the '07 Elantra SE is:

    $580 cheaper than a comparably equipped Civic LX ($16,960)


    Just for the record, I have had 3 Civics, and all of them had cheap plastic interiors. (Although at least one of them had decent cupholders ;) )
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    The comment on the plastics was a caption on one of the photos.
  • Thanks, I missed that. I was looking in the review itself. I almost never read the photo captions (too busy looking at the pictures)
  • http://www.nctd.com/review-intro.cfm?Vehicle=2007_Hyundai_Elantra&ReviewID=1987

    Quite positive overall, and in some ways contrary to what Car and Driver says in their comparions review. They praised Elantra's handling, and also liked how it drove at 80 mph on the highway, with 5-speed manual.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Yes, that's very interesting that they didn't think the noise at 80 mph/3500 rpm was too high, nor the engine "buzzy" at that speed, contrary to a couple of other reviews. Sometimes I think people see/hear what they are looking/listening for.
  • nodulenodule Posts: 118
    Well, lets he honest here...why the heck is anyone
    drving 80mph anyway? Last time I checked, its illegal!
    Also, very unsafe and irresponsible, im my opinion.
  • bamacarbamacar Posts: 749
    See the sign in Texas.

    Speed Limit Sign
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,253
    Plus there are now many rural interstates with 70 and 75MPH speed limits. Doing 80 in a 75 would be common for a passing manuever.

    I'm in Chicagoland and while the posted highway limit is 55, traffic usually moves at either 70+ or 15-. Hitting 80 is not hard to do if one simply opts to go with the flow.
  • tsgeiseltsgeisel Posts: 352
    I drive 80 all the time. I've even been known to do so *on* 80.

    Illegal? Sorta. Usafe? Not really; it's just cruising along the freeway, at a speed comfortable for me and the car.

    Irresponsible? Completely subjective.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    This is not the "illegal/unsafe/irresponsible speeds" discussion, is it. ;)

    Anyone read any more reviews or reports on the Elantra you'd care to share?
  • http://cars.about.com/od/hyundai/fr/ag_07elantra.htm

    In short, the reviewer says Elantra is an excellent car, except for the styling.

    To be honest, 2007 Elantra looked a little out of ordinary at my first glance(especially from either side), but the more I look at it, I find it rather surprising to realize myself that it does have an understated, unassuming look to it.

    Perhaps Hyundai feared that giving it a venturous styling could be more of a risk than a benefit?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Styling is subjective, isn't it.

    Keep in mind that the Sentra, praised by the cars.about.com review, was roundly bashed by C/D et. al. for its styling. And we all know how hard it is to sell cars that have boring styling. Look at the sedan sales leaders, what do you see? Cars with pedestrian styling like Accord, Corolla, Camry (more daring for 2007 but it sold great with more mundane styling), Impala, and Malibu. Hmm, maybe Hyundai saw a trend there?
  • I think the about.com review is funny. He mentioned Elantra's "bad" styling so many times and called Civic/Corolla/Sentra/Elantra a "subcompact" car class.
  • I did some more googling and found this first drive article.

    http://www.autoweb.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_id_in- t/2243

    Again full of praises and few complaints. Loud engine noise under (hard) acceleration is mentioned, but that's about it. (Styling sure seems to be a subjective matter after all)
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Aggressive styling? I would hardly call the elantra 'aggressive'. Lets not talk about tasteful interiors backster. You want aggressive? Look at the civics interior, its bold and very new and fresh and regardless of what you think, no one else is doing. That just cant be argued. And its one of the civics selling points, and honda has no problems selling this car despite its very original interior.

    Having blue lighting is not a bad thing. I know you like inserting words here and there, but i didnt even insinutate that its a bad thing. Copying vw is lame imo. The civic has blue lighting, but it doens't copy vw.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    exactly. Very run of the mill.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    were any of your civics current generation? because those seem to be the ones we are discussing...it makes no sense to compare the brand new elantra to an older civic, although the idea is very flattering towards the civic. Honda isn't known for cheap plastics. Ever. But uh hyundai well has. So if you want to carry that argument further we can.

    Theres no need for me to be lectured on familiarity and why people imitate certain ideas because they are well recevied. I have mentioned before that hyundai just has a really obvious trend of doing so with many of thier vehicles, more so than other brands in my eyes.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Copying vw is lame imo.

    I agree-especially if it means copying VW's lame fuel economy, thrashy 5-cylinder engine, or poor reliability. ;) I've noticed from photos of the Elantra's gauge cluster that it actually looks nothing like the Rabbit's gauge cluster. Since other cars such as the Civic have blue lighting too, I'm not sure how it can be claimed that Hyundai copied VW with the Elantra's blue lighting. It's not like VW invented blue dash lighting--or did they?

    I know you will bring this up, about how copying VW is lame, the next time someone we know suggests that Hyundai copy VW and offer ESC and traction control on the Elantra.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    So...what are you trying to say? That the elantra identifies with these so called 'boring'styled sedans? Does that not negate your 'aggressive front end' argument?
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Who said they looked like the rabbits? They mentioned the colors being the same. Don't splice my comments backy: i used the civic as an example to show exaclty that: that not eveyone copies vw with blue lighting. I think they meant blue lighting with red needles as on the elantra is exaclty what vw does; therefore the civic doesn't copy vw's with blue lighting alone.

    Don't bring up traction conrol, if the elantra offered it it would be a nice addition.

    As far as fuel ecomomy goes, a lot of rabbit owners are getting much better than sticker, including myself. Remember i used to own an 06 civic, it took a lot to sway me, i know what good fuel ecomomy is and the rabbit does good for a car of this weight and engine displacement and amount of cylinders. I know you have said you have driven the rabbit, but the engine is hardly thrashy, it actually very very smooth and since both the elantra and rabbits engines are iron blocks, you can rest assured that a smaller engine is going to have to work harder and thus as a general rule of thumb, be louder and whinier. The vw is not thrashy, its far from it. My rabbit has held up very well. No reliabilty problems at all. You cant call it unreliable in the here and now, because you are judging the previous generation, not the rabbit.
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