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Hyundai Elantra: Reviews & News from the Pros (Edmunds, C/D, CR, MT etc.)

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  • http://cars.about.com/od/hyundai/fr/ag_07elantra.htm

    In short, the reviewer says Elantra is an excellent car, except for the styling.

    To be honest, 2007 Elantra looked a little out of ordinary at my first glance(especially from either side), but the more I look at it, I find it rather surprising to realize myself that it does have an understated, unassuming look to it.

    Perhaps Hyundai feared that giving it a venturous styling could be more of a risk than a benefit?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Styling is subjective, isn't it.

    Keep in mind that the Sentra, praised by the cars.about.com review, was roundly bashed by C/D et. al. for its styling. And we all know how hard it is to sell cars that have boring styling. Look at the sedan sales leaders, what do you see? Cars with pedestrian styling like Accord, Corolla, Camry (more daring for 2007 but it sold great with more mundane styling), Impala, and Malibu. Hmm, maybe Hyundai saw a trend there?
  • I think the about.com review is funny. He mentioned Elantra's "bad" styling so many times and called Civic/Corolla/Sentra/Elantra a "subcompact" car class.
  • I did some more googling and found this first drive article.

    http://www.autoweb.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_id_in- t/2243

    Again full of praises and few complaints. Loud engine noise under (hard) acceleration is mentioned, but that's about it. (Styling sure seems to be a subjective matter after all)
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Aggressive styling? I would hardly call the elantra 'aggressive'. Lets not talk about tasteful interiors backster. You want aggressive? Look at the civics interior, its bold and very new and fresh and regardless of what you think, no one else is doing. That just cant be argued. And its one of the civics selling points, and honda has no problems selling this car despite its very original interior.

    Having blue lighting is not a bad thing. I know you like inserting words here and there, but i didnt even insinutate that its a bad thing. Copying vw is lame imo. The civic has blue lighting, but it doens't copy vw.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    exactly. Very run of the mill.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    were any of your civics current generation? because those seem to be the ones we are discussing...it makes no sense to compare the brand new elantra to an older civic, although the idea is very flattering towards the civic. Honda isn't known for cheap plastics. Ever. But uh hyundai well has. So if you want to carry that argument further we can.

    Theres no need for me to be lectured on familiarity and why people imitate certain ideas because they are well recevied. I have mentioned before that hyundai just has a really obvious trend of doing so with many of thier vehicles, more so than other brands in my eyes.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Copying vw is lame imo.

    I agree-especially if it means copying VW's lame fuel economy, thrashy 5-cylinder engine, or poor reliability. ;) I've noticed from photos of the Elantra's gauge cluster that it actually looks nothing like the Rabbit's gauge cluster. Since other cars such as the Civic have blue lighting too, I'm not sure how it can be claimed that Hyundai copied VW with the Elantra's blue lighting. It's not like VW invented blue dash lighting--or did they?

    I know you will bring this up, about how copying VW is lame, the next time someone we know suggests that Hyundai copy VW and offer ESC and traction control on the Elantra.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    So...what are you trying to say? That the elantra identifies with these so called 'boring'styled sedans? Does that not negate your 'aggressive front end' argument?
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Who said they looked like the rabbits? They mentioned the colors being the same. Don't splice my comments backy: i used the civic as an example to show exaclty that: that not eveyone copies vw with blue lighting. I think they meant blue lighting with red needles as on the elantra is exaclty what vw does; therefore the civic doesn't copy vw's with blue lighting alone.

    Don't bring up traction conrol, if the elantra offered it it would be a nice addition.

    As far as fuel ecomomy goes, a lot of rabbit owners are getting much better than sticker, including myself. Remember i used to own an 06 civic, it took a lot to sway me, i know what good fuel ecomomy is and the rabbit does good for a car of this weight and engine displacement and amount of cylinders. I know you have said you have driven the rabbit, but the engine is hardly thrashy, it actually very very smooth and since both the elantra and rabbits engines are iron blocks, you can rest assured that a smaller engine is going to have to work harder and thus as a general rule of thumb, be louder and whinier. The vw is not thrashy, its far from it. My rabbit has held up very well. No reliabilty problems at all. You cant call it unreliable in the here and now, because you are judging the previous generation, not the rabbit.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    What I am trying to say is that Hyundai didn't go "far out" in styling the Elantra, because that risks turning off some large segment of the market.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Don't bring up traction conrol, if the elantra offered it it would be a nice addition.

    Unfortunately, if the Elantra offered traction control standard, some review or some poster here would say that they copied VW (since I believe the Rabbit/Jetta is the only car in this class to offer traction control standard even on the base models, isn't it?) and there we are all over again--more "lameness" from Hyundai, right?

    I get much better than sticker on my Elantra in fuel economy too. Big whoop. And it's other reviewers (MT for example) that call the Rabbit's engine thrashy.

    I didn't call the Rabbit unreliable--I referred to VW's reliability overall or lack thereof.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    so is that an easy way of saying boring? Or a dressed up way to say 'unaggressive?" :blush: Your choice backster. :P
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Really? which reviewers have said this? How many owners have said it? And if they have how big of a percentage of rabbit owners do they represent? A very small one. There is a whole world outside of carspace backy; hate to break it to you. The engine is great. Not thrashiness on my part. I'll drive home now in peace and quitet with an engine that stays at a tame just barely 1900rpms while i go 80 on the interstate. Thrashy. Puh-lease.

    To be honest with you i wouldn't have thought them lame. Traction control is going to be like airbags soon; it would have been nice to see hyundai on the same boat. I honestly wouldn't have seen that as lame. Such and angry post backster. Just go and drive your way. :P
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Neither. I said what I said.

    Here's what some professional reviewers said (getting back to the topic):

    The exterior upgrades include distinctive headlamps, bold hood design, chrome accented grille, an aggressive looking lower air intake and new fog lights.

    http://www.carlist.com/newcars/2007/ncr1161.html

    The upside-down trapezoidal grille, combined with canted headlamps and a narrow lower intake give the car an unusually aggressive look...

    http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Hyundai/review/2007-hyundai-elantra-preview/18- 51/
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    I think you are confusing anger with ROFL.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    We seem to have gotten rather far afield of the subject here which is specifically reviews and news from the pros. I'll invite a couple of you to check out the list of Elantra discussions and pick a suitable one for your concerns.

    Also, let's remember to not make these exchanges personal.

    Thanks.
  • were any of your civics current generation?

    Admittedly, no. I have mentioned this in the Civic vs. Elantra post previously, but I have owned the following:
    95 CX Hatch
    01 DX Sedan w/air
    99 LX Sedan (currently driving)

    The only one of those without really cheap plastics is the 99. The 01 plastic dash was scratched by my wife's engagement ring the first week we got it and it was not repairable. I have not driven the 06 or 07 yet. I don't care for the exterior design of the sedan, and a coupe is not practical enough for me. Also, a bad quality/service experience has forced me to no longer consider Honda a top rated manufacturer. For the full story, please visit Civic vs. Elantra post #1421.

    Honda isn't known for cheap plastics. Ever.

    Again, I site that two of my three, which are all fairly recent (I'm not comparing to 1974 early civic, which probably also had cheap plastics). I'm sure that Hyundai has used cheap plastics in the interior in past generations as well. I have sat in and examined the 07 Elantra, and I don't see a great deal of "cheap" plastics used, but maybe you and/or the reviewers did. Okay, we each have our own opinion.

    Theres no need for me to be lectured on familiarity and why people imitate certain ideas because they are well recevied. I have mentioned before that hyundai just has a really obvious trend of doing so with many of thier vehicles, more so than other brands in my eyes.


    Sorry if it came across that way, my point was just that even ideas that have been recorded as most effective in history were influenced by previous ones.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Also, a bad quality/service experience has forced me to no longer consider Honda a top rated manufacturer. For the full story, please visit Civic vs. Elantra post #1421.


    I'm sorry that this is what has made you no longer like hondas as much, initially it sounds like a stupid reason that could only be on a few dealers, but i understand.

    I have not driven the 06 or 07 yet. I don't care for the exterior design of the sedan, and a coupe is not practical enough for me.

    again i think you should take a look into the sedan with a darker interior, its tremendously nice. I love the way the new civic looks, it just grows no you, very adventerous design.
  • I'm sorry that this is what has made you no longer like hondas as much, initially it sounds like a stupid reason that could only be on a few dealers, but i understand.

    I'm not sure I understand this response - did you read the entire post? Because I don't consider a major transmission problem to be stupid. Just so you know, though, I did bring that car to four different dealers, none of whom were able to address the problem to my satisfaction. I contacted Honda's corporate office and they also could not identify the problem or assist me with service departments. Eventually, I decided to cut my losses and trade the car.

    again i think you should take a look into the sedan with a darker interior, its tremendously nice. I love the way the new civic looks, it just grows no you, very adventerous design.

    The interior design is not what bothers me. I do not like the look of the sedan's exterior. I feel it is out of proportion (the windshield comes down too far forward).

    Thanks for the input, though!
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