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Hyundai Elantra Transmission Questions

backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
Which transmission do you prefer in the Elantra--automatic or manual?
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  • jlflemmonsjlflemmons Posts: 2,240
    Well, Backy, as you know I have had both. While the auto is a very smooth and adaptive unit, the 5spd makes much better use of the engine torque curve. Interesting to note is that the 5spd transaxle has a numerically higher final ratio. Which would partly explain the big difference in acceleration between the two.

    Jim
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    Some reviews on the 2007 Elantra have mentioned a lot of engine noise above about 72 mph with the 5-speed. One mentioned the automatic was geared much lower so it was quieter. I've owned both AT and MT on the previous gen Elantra and the AT car is definitely quieter overall, some of that because the engine turns slower (e.g. just over 2000 RPMs at 55).
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Automatic.

    I would prefer a 5 spd automatic.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    That would be nice (hey, why not 6?) but from reviews it looks like the Elantra needs a 6-speed manual before it needs a 5-speed automatic.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Over 95% of all passenger vehicles are sold with automatic.
    Majority of the 5% with manuals are "sport" type models.

    6 speed manual and or automatic would both be nice, however, why develop a 6 speed for less than 5% of the market?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    Hyundai has a 6-speed that they use on the Tiburon--maybe it could be adapted for the Elantra.

    Also it's 5% of the U.S. market, but manuals are much more popular in other countries where the Elantra is sold.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Also it's 5% of the U.S. market, but manuals are much more popular in other countries where the Elantra is sold.

    Very good point.

    What I would really be exited about would be a DSG type transmission similar to the one being offered in VW's and Audis that combines the benefits of a manual and an automatic. And it would be applicable to all markets.
  • The AT option adds about $1,000 to the price, regardless of trim, so I may go with the MT Limited (I like the heated leather seats :) ).

    However, I am concerned about road noise with the MT, so I'll need to drive both to find out. Has anyone already done so?
  • My wife and I are considering a 2007 Elantra when the lease is up on our Mazda Protege (5-speed) next year. She is the previous owner of a 2002 Elantra (5-speed). I've owned two prior vehicles, both of which had manual transmissions. She and I are both big fans of manuals and will always try to purchase a vehicle with one whenever possible.

    I think it's the "fun" factor that sways us. We love the control that a manual transmission offers the driver. Fans of paddle-shifters and manumatics can say whatever they want about control... but I believe that if it doesn't have THREE pedals, it's not the same! I think manuals also promote a connection between the car and the driver, in that they require a driver to actually drive.

    In the new Elantra, we would be looking at a Limited model with a manual. I have a feeling that particular combination may be difficult to find, however.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    Yep. Based on what I've seen so far on my dealer's lot, it may be hard to find any 2007 Elantras with MTs! :( They all had automatics. But it's early yet.
  • I don't understand why car and driver only tested the MT models. They should have tested the AT models.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    Because they see themselves as a magazine for "enthusiasts", who all drive sticks I guess. :surprise: Actually, a stick on a car with a small 4-banger is usually more fun, but today's automatics are much more efficient than they used to be.

    If you want to see a comparo with ATs, I expect CR will do that sometime next year. They might even test both MTs and ATs, which would make for a nice comparison.
  • I test drove a Elanta 5 speed manual with GLS trim and a 4 speed automatic in SE trim. Both models are rated at 28 city and 36 highway. When doing 70 mph the manual was taching 3000 rpm and the automatic was only at 2500 rpm. I do agree that the Elantra need an extra gear in the manual. This will help with fuel economy on the highway and keep the engine noise down. Either way it is a big improvement over the last 2006 model. With the automatic problems I have had in the past I think I am going with the sportier 5 speed.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    Did you notice a significant difference in engine noise at 70 mph between the stick and automatic? How did you find the shifter action of the stick? Was it smooth?
  • Backy.
    I thought you have had trouble with your clutch in your Elantra.
    What happened to your auto transmission?
    Niels
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    Nothing. Works great, thanks!
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Nothing. Works great, thanks!

    The clutch works great?

    Or,

    The auto transmission works great?

    :confuse:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    Niels' question was, "What happened to your auto transmission?"

    My reply, in context to his question, should be clear.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    In context of the question-
    Backy.
    I thought you have had trouble with your clutch in your Elantra.


    Your auto transmission has a clutch? :sick:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    Tip on reading these discussions: they read like a dialogue. When someone asks a question at the end of their post and the person they asked responds directly to it, it's a good bet that the response pertains to the question that was asked.

    I am not an expert on the Elantra's automatic transmission, but in general auto trannies have clutches. Here's a primer on automatic transmissions that may help answer your question:

    http://www.familycar.com/Transmission.htm
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Backy, What trouble did you have with the clutch in your Elantra?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    On my '01 Elantra, my son and wife abused it to the point where it broke. :cry: Before that, there was a squeak when depressing the clutch pedal, which was fixed under warranty with new bushings (I think there's a TSB about that).
  • ppcdc30ppcdc30 Posts: 18
    I prefer a stick verses an automatic. My automatic in my 2002 Hyundai Sonata did not want to shift into 3rd and sometimes missed 4th and went straight to OD. Changed the fluid was recommended by the dealer and still did it. Between the Elantra and the vehicle they copied the Toyota Corolla. I bought a Corolla due to the transmission and the rear seat legroom.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,747
    FYI, 4th is overdrive on the 2002 Sonata automatic.
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    we had alot of problems with our 2003 sonata. It would get locked into second. The dealer finally had to replace the transmission. It had less than 2,000 miles. after it was replaced it still did not seem to be right. we did not trust it so we traded it for our 2005 elantra gt manual transmission which we love.
  • gblackwegblackwe Posts: 8
    I own an 07 Elantra SE 5-speed. When backing up, actually coasting backwards down my driveway with the car in reverse and the clutch fully depressed. I can hear a subtle growling sound like you would expect if you were actually backing up with the clutch fully engaged and accelerating. I don't think this is normal. Also, I noticed the speedometer is actually registering a speed while I'm travelling in reverse. Not much but the speedometer is definitely not on zero! Anyone ever seen this? Time for a trip to the dealer for some repairs?
  • doohickiedoohickie Posts: 949
    You're asking the wrong person. It was ppcdc30, in response to backy that said, "With the automatic problems I have had in the past I think I am going with the sportier 5 speed."
  • skybelouskybelou Posts: 2
    My new 2007 elantra has already had a new transmission put into it, and unfortunately it's still having problems. When I drive around 35mph it starts making a droning noise and has a slight vibration to it. Since the new trans was put in it now does it when I'm only doing 25mph also. Dealer told me it was the torque converter, so they put in whole new transmission. Still the same but a little quieter. Test drove a brand new one (5 miles on it) and it did the exact same thing---was told this is a "characteristic of the new engine" and that it was doing "no harm" to the engine. Trying to get them to write up a TSB on this issue seeing as I was told I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. Just wanted to see if anyone has experienced this similiar situation and if they have got it resolved?
  • ginns5ginns5 Posts: 16
    no problems with the transmission.I just find that it lugs a bit, cause I don;t think it is geared as well as the '99 Elantra.I am very light on the pedal, so perhaps should expect this but the '99 is better.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,598
    If you're driving really slow for top gear, try using the Shiftronic, or goose the pedal just a little. Either one won't cost you anything noticable in MPG.

    Your new car is probably designed to be more fuel efficient for normal driving. That doesn't mean that top gear is always your best choice, i.e. lugging.
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