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2009 Mazda6



  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I really hope all of this negitive feedback leads to a model change perhaps after the second year, to make it look like the Euro/JDM Mazda6
  • I hope Mazda makes the necessary changes to the front before the car goes on sale. It is basically the front grille, fog light position and headlight design that needs to be changed, that should not should not take that much effort since it is not yet in production. I hope Mazda is seriously assessing the reaction to the spy shots.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    That is wishfull thinking. The ball is already rolling. It might be too late to change anything.
  • mpg60mpg60 Posts: 71
    Aviboy, it would seem you are somewhat disappointed with the NA version of the 6 also? To me it seems the version the rest of the world gets denotes more of the zoom zoom quality Mazda is so well know for.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Well, I have to be honest, I was really excited when the JDM Mazda6 / Atenza made its debut. I really thought Mazda did a great job of evolving the Mazda6 into an even more sportier mid sized sedan, while making some great improvements in handling, fuel economy, and overall build quality. What's not to like about that? Now, we see what changes were made for the North American market. I am not too upset by the front, for it mostly stayed the same, but, you can tell the differences, like the smaller, less sexy headlights. I still like the JDM front end better. What really disappoints me is the rear. What the heck happened? I do like the exhaust set up, but, the tail lights, trunk just don't seem to go with the car.

    What I really don't understand is why? I had a rep at my dealership today, and I missed the opportunity to ask about this.

    Now, I do think there ar some positives. It seems that the interiors will be the same. That's a good thing. Also, it does not appear to be that much bigger then the JDM one. I am also pretty sure that we are getting Mazda's 3.7L V6 w/ 270hp and 267tq, while getting pretty good fuel economy at 19-27. The 4-cyl engine output is still unknown. Also, I believe we are getting a 6-speed manual as the tranny for the 4 cyl engines. That is a great move.

    I will reserve my final judgment until I get to see the official photos, which I will get to see pretty soon. Regardless if I had never seen the JDM version, I still would dislike how the rear looks. The front end I could live with.
  • I actually think the rear looks better than the Euro spec while the front looks much worse.

    In any case, the Euro spec 6 has been generating a lot of positive buzz... I wonder why they went for the change. Did they have to make room for the larger V6? Are the changes to accommodate the slightly larger vehicle?

    For Mazda this could've been a breakout hit, a bigger success than the 3 has been.

    It's seriously odd though, when a car has been getting almost universal praise... you change it?
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    Well, between the US-spec bumpers (which are more stringent than Euro/JDM standards), and different requirements for headlight and taillights (heights, brightness, and angles), as well as fitting a 3.7L V6 that the rest of the world doesn't get, I'm sure the changes had to be made.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Unless I am totally missing something, I don't see how the JDM lights would be illegal over here.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    Unless I am totally missing something, I don't see how the JDM lights would be illegal over here.

    US requirements differ from JDM requirements concerning headlight height (I believe the US requires them at a taller minimum height off the ground), brightness, and the angles they can legally work at. I bet Mazda needed to update the headlight cluster to better fit the US requirements.

    Not to mention that the US requires added reflectors as well, which is one reason why the NA current-gen 6 taillights have the "Bulge" while the JDMs do not. There's an added red reflector off the side of the taillight housing on NA cars that JDM cars do not require.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Not to mention that the US requires added reflectors as well, which is one reason why the NA current-gen 6 taillights have the "Bulge" while the JDMs do not. There's an added red reflector off the side of the taillight housing on NA cars that JDM cars do not require.

    I have the JDM tail lights on my 2005 Mazda6, and the ones I have don't have the bulge, but, still have the red reflector of the side that wraps around the side. I really think the bulge was part of the styling. Most every other car has rear lights with no bulge, Mazda could have done the same. Just my .02
  • zzzoom6zzzoom6 Posts: 425
    seems the angles of the spy pics were far from ideal. if you look at the shots f/ Mazda of the new 6 for europe and asia, the angles are completely different.

    but I do think not having the crease on the hood and a more accented lower front bumper for the NA market is a mistake. it almost seems as though mazda is decontenting the NA 6 so it can sell for less than other countries. and if you take currency issues into account, the weak dollar would almost make this a certainty. so I have a feeling we won't see things like corner adjusting headlights and adaptive cruise that I heard the euro 6 has...

    I hope they have a body kit as an option to make the car have more appeal/ flair. as it is now, I am a bit disappointed and hope that the ride of the car will make up for some of the exteriors shortcomings.
  • I like the front of the US Version, but not the grill, they should have left the grill alone, and I like the rear of the euro version much better. Why did they do that? So I guess I pretty much agree with aviboy97. Does anyone know when will the official photo's come out? :confuse:
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,896
    From what I've seen on several boards, comments are almost 50-50 as to who likes the front end and who likes the back of the 09 Mazda6. I personally think the US version looks ok from the front and really looks great from the rear. I think the Euro version looks like a 2002 Malibu from the rear. But a lot of people are just the opposite--like yourself. What is odd is that I have not seen anyone post that they like the whole package.
  • unixxusunixxus Posts: 97
    From the spy pictures, I am glad to see that the interior of the NA version stays mostly the same as the Euro/JDM versions. 2009 mazda6 interior
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Yeah, I'm happy about that.

    It seems the steering wheel came from the CX-9, as well as the gauge cluster. I do believe I see dual climate settings and blue tooth connectivity as well.

    So far, the interior looks great. I hope when I see the car in detail in a month, I will not be disappointed
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,896
    What this means to you: As a 2009 model, the new Mazda 6 should hit showrooms by early next year. — Kelly Toepke, News Editor

    The above is from the link to Edmunds spy photos of the M6 interior. This article is dated 3/10/08 and they are forecasting the car to be in showrooms "early next year"?? What gives??
  • exit123exit123 Posts: 136
    I don't care too much about the details of the interior, since they dropped the 5-door model.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    Typo - the car is already out in a few places around the world and probably only a few months away in the US.
  • socal2006socal2006 Posts: 44
    I agree, the interior looks good so far.

    I saw a disguised 09 Mazda6 driving around Irvine, CA near MazdaUSA headquarters.
    Typical striped tape up job. Didn't get to snap a photo with phone though.

    Even with the disguise, the one thing that really jumped out at me were the front wheel arches... they are very pronounced.

    I'm getting excited, cant wait for the official unveiling.
  • Some people say it looks like an RX8 from the front, I am not sure about that.

    I wonder if they will have the specials they usually have the the Mazda 6 with $3000 off. I know they usually do that in August. What do you guys think?
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