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Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems

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  • I just bought used 2000 Honda Odyssey with 98K miles. I don't know if the first owner had the transmission replaced or not, but he had water pump replaced at 80K miles (without timing belt replaced). His dealer said the belt was still good.

    I have question:

    It takes all the way up to 3500rpm before my van changes to second gear from full stop. Is it normal? If I don't push it hard, it changes to second gear around 2500rpm. My van is running ok, but I want to know if that is normal. Please advice!

    Thank you,

    T2
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Posts: 490
    Your shift point is normal.

    Have you read the posts in this forum about the transmission problems? You have 110k mile warranty on your transmission. See this website link title

    My advice: spend $60 take the van to your local Honda dealer & ask them to check the transmission for you. Doing this will help when you fight the battle for reimbursement when the your tranny fails & it will fail shortly. You now have paperwork ammunition showing that it was checked by Honda.
  • kennynmdkennynmd Posts: 424
    I know its kinda early, but has anyone had problems with the 08 tranny issues? Did Honda do anything different for the 08's compared to the 07's? Wife really likes the look and convenience of the Ody compared to the Sienna but I'm in limbo because of all the problems. I have always been fond of Toyotas although my Sequoia had to get the oxygen sensor replaced at 20k. Thanks to all who will reply!
  • I would recommend a Dodge Caravan. It is cool. Besides, it comes with lifetime powertrain warranty. Give American cars a chance. You would be very pleased with them.
  • chiodychiody Posts: 3
    With easy acceleration, I can shift to 2nd below 2K. Moderate pedal pressure will move the shift point upwards of 3K. However with the majority of instances, the shift occurs around 2.2K.

    These shift points occurred with both trannys.

    The most disconcerting thing was there no hint of impending failure other than a whining in 1st gear and at 75-80 mph.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    AGREE except all Caravans are now called GRAND Caravan. A T&C clone is equally reliable. :shades:

    WHY buy an Odyssey when the Odysseys are having too many transmission failures?
  • dino24tdino24t Posts: 5
    Two days ago our van started slipping out of gear, so we took it in. In September 2007 we took it in for the recall and had the new part added. Now 6 months later the transmission is FAILING at 60,000 miles (actually started at 59,980 and it hit 60,000 by the time we got it to the dealer). 2003 is not in the lawsuit apparently, but it seems that the problems extended well past 2001.

    Honda says it isn't under warranty and wants to charge me $3,200. They also mentioned that the motor mounts are bad and need replacing (what do the motor mounts do?). I also spent about $60 I think to have the break switch replaced 5,000-10,000 miles back.

    The dealer is currently submitting a GOOD WILL request to Honda to see if they will pay for any of the repairs. Seems to me this is a cop-out to alleviate a lot of cost that they should be paying because they know there is a problem.

    Has anyone talked about another Class Action lawsuit to cover the remaining of the problem years?
  • dino24tdino24t Posts: 5
    Did the dealer do all the work for you under a GOOD WILL form or did you contact National Honda number? What number did you contact if you went straight to National Honda?

    Same issue for me at 60,000 miles and had the replacement part handled. I have a case number with the 800 customer service number on Honda's main site and the dealer has put in a GOOD WILL form request.

    Thanks....
  • Both. The regional Honda rep was at the dealer where our vehicle was at and authorized a 75% reimbursement off the cost of a warrantied transmission. Of course, we wanted 100%. His decision superceded American (National) Honda's case worker. There were cases on this site where owners got 100%. I guess it all comes down to your relationship with your dealer i.e. required service, etc. My wife did all the work, I don't have the 800# handy. I had seen it while scrolling thru messages on this site. I'll email it when I find it.

    There should be a class action suit to include the 2003 model year. It appears the problem was never truly fixed and we're getting sold a bag of goods. Good luck!
  • dino24tdino24t Posts: 5
    Thanks for the info. I do agree that there should be another class action lawsuit to handle the rest of the problem years. I wonder who handled the first case and if they would be interested in taking Honda on again. Are class action lawsuits generally handled pro-bono because the lawyers plan to recoup their money from the companies? Hopefully that is the case...I would love to get the ball rolling on this if it isn't going to cost me.
  • We all need to find a way for another class action lawsuit. I just had to have my 2003 honda oddssey transmission, with only 65k on it, replaced by american honda they would only cover 40% of the cost, because I never did any transmission flushes at Honda or any work at the Honda dealerships way to expensive. I do all my oil changes and fluid changes my self, and did not have my receipts for the transmission fluid. American Honda did say if they have a recall on the transmissions for this year they would pay me back the $1700 for the transmission. I don't believe them.

    Let the lawsuits begin!
  • I'll do some research into that tonight or tomorrow and try to make contact to the group who pushed for the warranty extension on the previous models. If I have any luck, then I'll post contact info for all to see to get the ball rolling. Strength in numbers!
  • jtk152jtk152 Posts: 139
    "I know its kinda early, but has anyone had problems with the 08 tranny issues? Did Honda do anything different for the 08's compared to the 07's?"

    I think I've heard of one 2007 transmission issue on another board, but I have a feeling this was not the most 'reliable' data. :mad: There are a few posts buried in this thread on this, but Honda put an entirely different trans in the 2007+ Odys. It is derived from the Ridgeline 4x4. The 2007+ Ody trans has an entirely different case and an additional gear shaft (went from 3 to 4). This helps better distribute internal loading and helps with lubrication and cooling. 2007+ also has a much easier to service transmission filter. It's a 'drop-in' type of filter element that loads into a housing on the case. Honda had to do something drastic if they want to maintain any type of reputation.

    Joel
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,168
    probably long overdue, but it isn't a component that is easily changed on the fly!

    and given all of the problems with the old style, I don't think redesigning it should be considered drastic!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • Thank you for your recommended.

    I had multi-point inspection done at dealer today and paid $81.66 for transmission diagnosis because it rises between 3500rpm to 4000rpm to shift to 2nd gear. And, with easy acceleration, it shifts to 2nd gear below 2500rpm. Again, my van has 98,250miles. !!! No engine light on yet !!!

    Here was what the honda technician wrote:
    "Verify that the tranny have late shift from 1st to 2nd gear. Slip into 3rd gear. Check ATF. Found ATF got burning smell. Check for DTC. No DTC store in PCM. Check EGR voltages. EGR voltages with spec. Recommend replace transmission."

    The dealer's asking for $4,000 :cry: to replace my tranny and $900 for timing belt. The supervisor will call Honda rep. Monday morning to find out if they're going to cover my tranny and the percentage. FYI, previous owners bought this van on 03/31/2000.
    When I asked the broker if there was any problem with the tranny, he said "No". So, do you think I can ask him to pay/share the cost to replace my tranny?

    Please advice!

    -T2
  • ody4me2ody4me2 Posts: 1
    I have a 2000 Odyssey with 103k on it. We started hearing a noise at high speeds and then another noise - repeated clicking - while backing up. Took it to Honda dealer and they said I need timing belt package and new transmission...that a gear must have broken off. They said that Honda would pay for the transmission because I'm only a year out of warranty and I would have to pay for labor only....$700. The timing belt package is $1100.
  • 2002odie2002odie Posts: 32
    Although it's about time for a timing belt at 103k miles, don't you think $1100 is a bit $$$$?

    If you look up the part (timing belt), it's under $50.00.
    That's a lot of labor they are charging, especially if they already have it all apart for the tranny replacement...are they also replacing the water pump for the $1100?

    Now on the other hand, $700 for a tranny replacement is a GREAT deal!

    Looks like the dealer is really trying to get some more money out of this transaction.
    I am surprised they didn't try to pull the "you need new motor mounts" line...
  • dino24tdino24t Posts: 5
    What is it with the Motor Mounts? Is that just a load of crap they are feeding us. Is there generally anything wrong with them and if so...what do they do? Hole the motor in the car or something? sorry for my mechanical stupidity, but it just seems from the posts that this is a frivolous line the dealer likes to feed us.
  • 2002odie2002odie Posts: 32
    Crash course on motor mounts:

    The motor mounts stabilize the vibrations given off by the engine.
    In particular there is one at the front (behind the radiator on 2002+ models, I think on the passenger side on 1999-2001 models...) that is actually active and controlled by the computer.
    It's a fluid filled hydraulic motor mount with a vacuum line going to it that will become stiffer or softer depending on what the computer tells it to do...
    If it's bad, you can easily tell, have someone watch the motor mount while someone else revs the engine above 1000 RPM (in park of course!)
    If bad, you will see the engine tilt up and down at the motor mount, if good, the mount should hold the engine steady...

    In my case, the dealer swapping the tranny said both the front and rear were no good and both needed replacing. They wanted another $500+ to replace them (at a "discount" since they were already in there swapping the tranny...see my previous posts on my tranny swap nightmare....)

    Bottom line, I bought the parts myself online and got a second opinion and turns out only the front needed replacing, while the rear one "still looked like brand new".
    So it just confirms my suspicion that the original dealer was out to hose me...
  • gavanmomgavanmom Posts: 32
    As for the 08's I can't say, but I am VERY RELIABLE and am willing to share the 20 pages of dealer shop reports with anyone wishing to see them concerning my 2007 that is on it's 3rd new transmission and awaiting a lemon law arbitration hearing anyday. We bought brand new <7 miles off the lot and the first tranny started acting up before we hit 1500 miles. Every other van we've owned in the 16 years of driving minivans has made it to 100 - 130K + and I've never had to replace a transmission. Plymouth, Chevy, GMC, Dodge and Ford. We are a military family and travel alot! Mileage and reliability are why we bought the Honda....not 3 transmissions in less than 12K miles and over 36 days in the shop in the first 9 months. Honda had every chance to make this right, all we wanted was a swap after the 2nd tranny was replaced, they don't do that was what we were told. "Don't worry about it, you have the 120K warranty, it will cover any repairs." was the reply from honda's customer rep.

    IF YOU BUY AN ODYSSEY, PLEASE GET THE EXT. WARRANTY.

    Want a reliable source for the 2007 tranny issues, email me at younsinga@cox.net. I've got 20 pages worth of reliable infor from our local Honda service shop. Dawn
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