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www.odysseytransmission.com
I think they would find that info useful...
Thanks for the coffee tip!
There was talk on this forum a few years back about using National Transmissions which are in both the United States and Canada.
Can you elaborate more on what your mechanic used for rebuilt transmission? Do you have any model #'s to provide so I could give them to my mechanic to make sure I get the right parts?
Thanks!
Josh
tranny started acting up around 130k , acting on tip here, i cleaned 2 sellooids, went fine for few thousands miles, back worse, did it again, second time did not improve much better, with total replacemnt of fluid everytime. third time, replaced fluid, cleaned selloids , were dirty, and this time installed inline filter.
this time, it drove much better, but still have problem shifting from 2 to 3 if car under 40 miles per hour. so, u shift to 2 gear, getcar over 40 n go back to D, no problem.
if this does not amuse u, here is the kick, it has been driving like this without any change for last 5k miles.
i am sure every other white guy would v changed the tranny long ago, but i cant afford it, so it is working now , hahaha
dan
Honda Odyssey 2003 was purchased used on 10/31/06. (No mention of a recall)
Jan 22, 2008 The Van began to slip gears. Had it towed to Aamco for transmission repair due to free towing. Charged $3062.06 to rebuild transmission.
April 10, 2009 Van again began to slip gears. Took back to Aamco and needed another rebuilt transmission and 3 mos out of warranty. Charged us $1587.55.
June 22, 2010 Van is packed with the entire family going to our vacation destination in SC in the middle of a down pour, the transmission again begins to slip. Called the local Aamco and they picked up the van. Same story, needed another rebuilt transmission in the amount of $2406.59.
After spending our vacation week with phone calls to Honda Corporate and Aamco to no avail, we had to borrow money from relatives in order to get our family back home.
July 20, 2011 Van is again packed with entire family to travel to NC vacation. 30 minutes outside of our hometown, Louisville, Ky it happened AGAIN! 13 months after last repair. Had to call a relative to pick is up off the side of the highway to return home. Unsure what to do at this point...we had the Van towed to our nearest Aamco dealer. We fortunately were able to borrow a car from a family member and continue with our vacation trying not to despair. The new tab from Aamco is $2835.60.
No assistance from HONDA Corporate nor Aamco Customer Relations. They are very, very hard to speak to. Just leave a message and wait to see if anyone calls you back. This would make it $9891.80 in four years for FOUR transmissions.
Update: 01/11/13 Odyssey transmission fails once again on the way out of town and has been towed back to Aamco since they agreed to give us a 3 yr warranty.!
There is a reason that these transmissions are not lasting. I wouldn't feel right to try to resell this car to another person. This is not right, this is not fair, this is not safe and HONDA should back their products and stop ignoring this issue.
even with much less troubl, i put 5 bibles on top of each other, and swor not to buy honda again,,
you need a ladder to swear
dan
but once you let AAMCO go at it, Honda wasn't going to do anything.
and after the first time, why let them keep charging you every year, when it must have been obvious they had no clue what they were doing?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Aamco fixes transmissions all the time. WHY won't a transmission work in my 2003 Odyssey!
They have tried to add an exterior fan to keep the transmission fluid cool and obviously that did't work either.
I guess we will try to trade this sucker in once we get it back. Really, who would want it.
If I were you I would keep the Honda repair history out of your sales pitch.
Make sure the AMCO warranty is transferable so you can sleep at night with out fear of the new owner driving the old van through your living room window.
Defect investigation:
http://www.wcclaw.com/CM/ClassActions/ClassActions58.asp
Petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/american-honda-motor-company-inc-admit-recall-an- d-fix-1999-through-2012-honda-odysseys?utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=url_- share&utm_campaign=url_share_before_sign
dan
This is what they say
'“Transmission failure can occur for any number of reasons, such as a defect, wear or improper maintenance,” Ms. Aldana wrote. “While overall transmissions complaints are high, the agency does not see a trend of transmission failures that indicate a continued safety consequence related to the original recall or any new defect.”
Honda, meanwhile, has said that the transmission problems occurred on models built more than five years ago and that “the vast majority of our customers have positive experiences with their vehicles.”
The link I posted is about an investigation that could lead to a class action. I hope they didnt close that one also.
Did you post that info on this site?
http://www.odysseytransmission.com/
'amount' underlined
and click on it to take you to the junk web page? thanks
The choice between a Toyota Sienna and a Honda Odyssey is a toss-up. According to TrueDelta, which collects maintenance data from drivers, both minivans hit the shop less often than the Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Grand Caravan. The Sienna is the smarter choice, though, because of its simplicity
The Press is finally recognizing that Hondas (weak transmissions) have problems that would end up costing you $$$$$$.
This is a good piece of proof if you are suing Honda on your own.
http://autos.ca.msn.com/editors-picks/twelve-cars-that-will-go-300000-km-or-more- #image=11
BTW, NYTIMES had an article a while back on this, but Consumer Reports still doesn't seem to want to admit to the problem, and when subscribers contact them, they are pretty much told what to do with their report.
Now it is 145000 miles and this winter since January (I live in NJ) I notice that when it is cold and the engine is cold and I start driving without warming up around 20-25 mph the engine revs (possibly because the gear shift from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd doesn't happen smoothly). I want to forestall any major problems with the tranny since I hope to use it for another couple of years.
What can I do? Do I flush the transmission? In some other post in this thread, someone had recommended using Amsoil ATF. What do you think?
If that doesn't do the trick then have the 2nd then 3rd gear pressure switches replaced. They wear out and lead to hard shifting due to higher than normal engine rpm.
Is slipping due to broken gear teeth? Are their transmissions so badly built that they fail in such a short time?
Any advice on furtehr course of action? :mad: :lemon:
If you are going to spend the money though, get something like a Jasper rebuild instead of one done by Honda.
http://www.odyclub.com/forums/9-problems-concerns/47181-transmission-slips-when-- cold.html
where it states that this is not a problem but by design.
I tried to independently verify this and found a reference to
"DELAYED UPSHIFT AFTER COLD START" in
http://autosmash.com/tsb/TSB_HONDA_ODYSSEY.html
but no further details.
I am now going to try warming up the engine before I start driving. Will post in a week as to how this goes.
IF YOU HAVE TO WARM UP THE CAR BEFORE DRIVING IT YOU PROBABLY HAVE LOW FLUID. GET IT CHECKED TODAY.
Slipping is caused by worn clutches. Broken gear teeth are extremely unusual because all the gears are always engaged regardless of what 'gear' the car is in. Yes, I know the first gen 5-speed units had issues with the second gear overheating, but that's been fixed.
The issue with these trans axles is heat management. The van is really heavy, and the fluid needs more cooling than the factory cooler can provide. Get a Hayden brand (or similar) cooler installed, along with a Mangefine external filter. Service the transmission annually. These are solutions to the problem. My 1999 Odyssey with nearly 220,000 miles verifies that. I know several other people with Odysseys that are near 200,000 miles as well.
These vans do require more maintenance than the manual states, but a few easy changes will help your van live a longer, healthier, less expensive life.
I would be very bitter if I had your problem at only a 2011. I would write a letter to the President of American Honda and skip service depts.
I did this with another item got excellent results from Canadian Honda.
after changing atf in my odessye, 5000 miles ago, and installed in line filter, the fluide is so fitlthy now. today, I just pumped out all the fluid and refilled again with honda af, i cleaned those screens in linear n shift selonoid at least 3 times.
about 400 miles ago, gas millege sudnly dropped to almost half.
what are the signs for bad torque converter? could be the converter is going?
whats involved in fixing the thrust bearing in tc?
dan
This is the 2nd transmission and it broke apart (as per mechanic) at present miles: 156,500
1st transmission changed at 89000 miles.
What happened: This morning I was driving to office and after driving 50 miles, the cruise control wasnt able to generate any power and I could feel the gear slip. Then I turned off cruise and tried to hit the gas pedal. And then I felt burning smell, within couple of seconds I pulled over. I got the van towed to the mechanic. There was oil leak below the van as seen on the towing truck.
The mechanic (goodyear service center) is saying it will cost 3900(with 100k mile, 5 yr warranty) for a fully rebuilt tranny or 2700 for a used tranny (1 yr 12k mile warranty).
Please recommend what are the options I have. I am looking to get rid of this van. Should I go ahead and get it repaired and then resell or should I try to trade in with dealer for a new car? What can I expect as is (there are no other major issues with the van)? :confuse:
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0fa11e/2333#MSG2333
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I live in a size-able city wherein there are 2 well known transmission shops that are held in high esteem as they have established an outstanding reputation over the past 30+ years.
I had a good talk with one of the top 30 year veterans from one of these shops after having a transmission failure in my 03 Honda Odyssey. Here is what he told me.
" Pursue the lawsuit if you must, but to get your tranny fixed properly, do not go to the dealership for the rebuild. Here's why: Honda is doing a repair not a rebuild. This means that if third gear has gone out, they will repair that one gear, throw it back together and call it a rebuild. No wonder people are having to take their tranny's back two and three times.
Honda is using a very different clutch plate. It has a soft material that wears off quickly and gets slippery smooth. There is nothing else like it and yet the after market clutch plates are hard like they should be."
He further told me that he had rebuilt hundreds of these with no failures or returns. So the key here is to NOT use factory clutch discs/plates, but quality after market discs. He also mentioned that the spline going down through the center of the tranny has a bushing in it that must hold air. He said most of the time Honda and others will not fix this. He spreads that bushing out till it holds air and he said that will last forever. If this leaks air, it can cause pressure problems in the tranny which results in shifting problems and possible slippage and failure. I asked if this was just a cheap under rated tranny for this vehicle prone to failure and that after having it fixed if he thought I should sell the van and move on to something different / better? He said NO! Honda makes a great vehicle and the motors in these vans is of the best in the industry. Once the tranny is fixed right, it will be worth keeping till you run it in the ground.
I hope this helps and that you have good success in your future rebuilds.
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With the transmission repaired/replaced your van is worth about $2500 or so.
So it comes down to whether or not you can afford a new car payment or not. $4K repair for a vehicle that is worth about half that and has over 150K miles seems kinda steep. Maybe you can try some other shops?
I also had a similar experience like the one you posted. Ours is a 2009 Odyssey. Yesterday, when parked at a drive thru', there was this noise from the front of the car which sounded like a tyre was becoming flat with intermittent sound. Just a few minutes back my daughter had complained that the A/c is not cooling. Thanks to your post, I believe the issue is AC relay too.
The Battery Draining does not seem coincidental as mine also did not start next day morning. Battery is completely dead! Need to jumpstart and see.
thanks,
Prasad
-Prasad
On the first week of April I took the minivan for a weekend drive of about 300 miles. A week after the drive, more transmission fluid spot leaks on my garage floor. Today, April 17, I took the minivan back to the dealership to report the same transmission leak problem. This time the service consultant told me that the leak now originates from the transmission seals! Now I'm driving a cheap rental for next few days hoping that this problem gets fixed.
The bottom line is that I'm just totally disappointed with Honda America and the Honda brand for the poor workmanship and reliability for this vehicle after just owning the vehicle for less that 2 and a half months with less than 1200 miles driven. I'm more worried now after I get the vehicle wondering what other surprises will crop up within the next three years/36000 miles before the warranty expires.
I'm now having buyer's remorse and should have stayed with Toyota since I never had the same grief from Toyota since the 1980s whenever I buy a new vehicle from them.
The car was serviced regularly by the book at Honda.
sounds like honda is busted on ody