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Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,472
    worth it? Depends on the overall condition of the van.

    At minimum, before I decided, I would fine a good indy mechanic (preferably one that really knows Hondas and has experience with the Odyssey) and have it gone over with a fine tooth comb. Engine compression, suspension, motor mounts, everything. Get a quote for bringing it fully "up to snuff".

    then, add that to the cost of the trans and decide if you want to invest that much with the intent of keeping it a couple more years.

    If it really needs a couple K more in repairs beyond the trans, might be better off dumping it as is.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • Mine does that occasionally also...In addition to having the trouble between 2nd and 3rd gears. To try and catch it and drive to a service place is hard!

    Is there repercussions for not getting it fixed? What does it control in the transmission?
    Thanks!
  • I talked with the transmission service place that we use for our vans at work...He said he has had problems with Jasper honoring their warranty. They were giving people the runaround, and he doesn't recommend that.

    He said the trans that he puts in will have a 2 yr 100,000 warranty, and the defect in the trans will be repaired unlike what they would do at a Honda dealer. He said his customers haven't had problems with their trans after they install it...It is 2,800.00, and they do 200 a year...more than the Honda dealer close to them.
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    Here's an a/t repairman working on more solutions to Honda's tranny mess..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEdqRkq1p1o
  • You should have your dealer dianogse this immediately as a in my case a "Third PRessure Switch" effects your third gear. After changing it the transmission seeem to use the engine 'like a brand new van' and "peppier".
    See also-
    http://www.odyclub.com/forums/52-2005-2010-odyssey/137895-easy-transmission-fix-- pressure-switches.html
  • jpfjpf Posts: 496
    Having a good transmission specialist rebuild your transmission rather than replace with a factory-rebuilt makes a lot of sense in many circumstances because they pay particular attention to the failure prone parts. The factory-rebuilt is built to the OEM specs which is flawed in the first place. It will last 50-60k miles and then fail again. Whereas the specialist may have a fix that prevents that particular part from failing again. I had a tranny specialist rebuild a transmission for me in a Chrysler Laser. Drove the car 60k miles without a problem. Gave the car to my brother and he put many more miles on that transmission without any problems.
  • I guess I wouldn't have to drive it while the D light is flashing? I will try and get this replaced next week. Thanks for the information!!!
  • I will get the estimate...of course the trans replacement place I am talking with thinks it is worth it. He said everything else is great...just replace the trans and you will be happy. I guess with the price of gas I am thinking more fuel efficiency, but the vehicle is paid off...no car payment except for the price of the trans if that is it?

    Someone wrote about the D flashing, and that if I replace that sensor it will help with the 3rd gear problem??? It has been flashing for awhile...I will try and address that next week.

    Thanks for your insight!
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    Here's some back and forth between me and the local Honda a/t Guru in Draper Utah...

    HI Larry

    Loved this article on the Honda TCC....

    http://www.sonnax.com/titles/overheated-honda-converters740-codes.print

    Sure has been a lot of head scratching and back engineering on these Honda a/t's..wish it was Honda doing it..I see they are now facing another Class Action lawsuit on the newer Odysseys a/t's...

    Just when they finally get it figured out they will probably change the whole a/t design again and once more use us Van Owners as R&D guinea pigs.

    Eric

    On 11/6/2011 9:29 PM, LARRY BLOODWORTH wrote:
    > Eric,
    >
    > While we've finally figured out the converter problem, among others, we are still debating the 3rd clutch issue. The sum of everything our industry knows about Honda/Acura problems can be found HERE.
    >
    > I believe the 3rd clutch problem is a software issue causing an overlap of 2nd clutch release and 3rd clutch apply; also the 4-3 downshift. This overlap condition is exacerbated by a lot of in-town driving where upshifts and downshifts into 3rd gear happen a lot. Most notably in the stereotypical Soccer Mom's kid bus. We rarely see 3rd gear clutch failure in Hondas that are primarily freeway driven; because they don't do a lot of shifing in and out of 3rd gear.
    >
    > The patented pressure regulator valve mentioned in the report retails for only $210 bucks. A cheaper, but more difficult to install, product that addresses the same issues is made by TransGo that I E-mailed you a while back.
    >
    > Let the Honda buffs and DIY'ers know what's up.
    >
    > I'll Keep You Posted,
    > J. Larry Bloodworth
    >
  • Thanks so much for the information...I am anxious to get the sensor fixed and see what happens.
  • I have Odessey 1999 and it has 4th transmission failures. It is garbage product and Honda Odessey must be banned in USA till such time they commit to fix their manufacuting defect and provide life time transmission warranty.
  • Make sure you file a complaint with the NHTSA. Their number is 1-888-327-4236. Honda told me that is the only way they will do a recall, if they are made to. Guess it is up to us to make them do the right thing before someone gets hurt or killed.
  • Is this a sensor issue or did you have to replace the transmission?
  • So is the problem a sensor or the pressure regulator valve for the "D" flashing...of course the Honda dealer I e-mailed about a price wants to see it. I am going to try and find someone else to troubleshoot it...
  • If you've had a transmission fail and needed to replace it, PLEASE,
    file a complaint with the NHTSA here:

    http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm

    There have been 224 complaints filed under 6 powertrain categories. Honda will only be held accountable when the NHTSA forces a mandatory recall.

    Also of interest:

    http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews.com/class-action-lawsuit-complaints/honda-od- - yssey-torque-converter-class-action-lawsuit-complaint/
  • Be sure to share your experiences at the Honda ODY facebook page.
  • donethat_1, after reading the transmission problems of numerous Odyssey owners (including 2011s) in the forums and your relentless campaign to share your own Odyssey experience, I heed the warning and am going with a 2012 Sienna. Too much reliability risk to take for 35k+ van.
  • Goo decision. You and Toyota will be the winner and Honda will be loser of one more good and loyal customer. I left 2 comments about Honda Odessey on msnbc post but did not appear so far. I think they did not like my frank comments. I am also considering Toyota Sienna after dumping Honda Odessey.
  • Bought a new 2001 Odyssey. First transmission problem was at 31,000 miles, they replaced solenoid switches. Transmission failed and was replaced at 34,000 miles. Transmission 2 failed at 59,000 miles and was replaced. Transmission 3 failed at 113,000 miles and was replaced. Transmission 4 failed at 150,000 miles and Honda says "go jump in the lake." Odyssey is totally worthless, have to sell for scrap. I bought a new Sienna.
  • eng2eng2 Posts: 10
    You were fortunate to have Honda pay for these many transmissions, although it shows the product is defective. Honda called me after my letter telling them that our 2002 transmission failed at 100700 miles. They told me they were very sorry and would not help out in any way. I replaced the transmission for $4,600, and after reading all the various post, I traded the car for a Sienna that has much fewer problems.
  • That was the right decision. Don't buy any Honda.
  • ive posted a few threads on here concerning the trans failures. here are the upgrades i perform that honda cant do to their remanufactured transmissions. the biggest failure component is the torque converter. The converter overheats even when in freeway cruise conditions when the converter clutch is locked up.There are two companies that make corrective kits/parts to remedy this situation. Sonnax and transgo. these fixes address the valve body inside the transmission. the honda reman transmissions do not and can not install these components. They have to follow guidlines established by honda. So you are better off having a transmission shop rebuild your honda transmission. The result will be worlds better than reinstalling another factory transmission that will ultimately fail again and again for the same reasons. I dont know where some of the folks here in this forum are getting their repair quotes because i rebuild these day in and day out, with all the sonnax and transgo updates, for between 2400-2800 depending on what, if any, parts beyond a standard rebuild.In addition, ive read of these transmissions failing at 30k after replacement. this is more than likely the transmission cooler is restricted. A lot of shops and especially the dealership reuse the factory trans cooler which is incorporated within the radiator. This is a no no. You will be better off installing an external trucool trans cooler and bypassing the factory trans cooler.Otherwise the transmission will fail prematurely.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,472
    just curious, does that price include all the labor to remove/reinstall? And it sounds like you just bench rebuild in the shop.

    There was someone (here I think, or on another forum) that decided to DIY it, and managed to do it successfully. So no reason a pro can't do it (since they just do it in a factory setting anyway for the remans).

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,472
    In my case, it would never be an issue, because if it crapped out it would be traded in within a week of being fixed.

    It's my wife's car, and she has no tollerance for being stranded!

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • All of the transmissions up to 109,000 miles were covered under the extended warranty (partly due to Honda extending it, partly due to a class-action suit). I also had purchased a Hondacare 7/100 extended warranty when I started having transmission problems, so they were really not doing me any special favors. I'm happy with my Sienna, and will not be buying any more Hondas. We need a new car for my wife soon, and I will be getting a Subaru.
  • Hi,
    You night want to try the shifter lock. That seems to be the problem with a lot of 03's. Are you having trouble getting the key out? Hope you can figure out the problem.
  • on my parents '04, they had trouble and the mechanic told them about this small cover on the top right side of the steering column where you can stick a key in to release the gear shift. sounds funny but its true. so, specifically look when sitting in drivers seat, reach your right hand forward past the steering wheel, look on the top right side of the steering column for a small rectangular plug in the plastic, about 1" wide x maybe .5" deep from where you sit. Pop it out and stick any other key than your ignition key (you need that one in the ignition..) you will feel some resistance when you push it down, but that is what releases the gear shift.

    Of course, it would have been simpler if honda simply fixed the design instead of coming up with this bandaid,..it's not nifty or cool, it's simply a design issue that was cheaper to bandaid then fix.

    I wish there was a way to stick a spare key in to fix the transmission, motor mount, etc,...etc,...etc,... design problems.

    yes, probably going back to a toyota next time.
  • I recently had the check engine light come on and the D indicator flash on my 2004 Odyssey with 89k miles on it. The dealer pulled the dreaded P0720 code and is recommending a new tranny. I strongly expressed my disappointment as I've had the trans fluid flushed 3 times so far by the dealer to avoid this very situation. They offered to do me a favor by telling me to call American Honda and file a case for a goodwill claim. They provided me the phone number, told me what to say, etc. I followed their instructions and within 2 days received an offer from American Honda to cover 52% of the cost of a new transmission. 52% of $6,100 is the offer leaving me to pay the balance of $2,900. What a bunch of b.s.! Honda's goodwill sure doesn't come cheap. Then just to push me over the edge the dealer recommends replacing the timing belt and 2 motor mounts for another $1,600. Thank you very much Honda.
  • Can you still drive your vehicle? The check engine light has been on my van (02) for years...Had it checked...said nothing wrong. I have had the D flashing for almost 2 years i believe now. I just have problems going up hills in lower gears....if I could just have no hills to drive up I would be ok!

    You shouldn't go to the dealer...that sounds pretty pricey!
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