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Honda Odyssey Transmission Problems

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  • autowriteautowrite Posts: 226
    Is the Platinum warrenty from Honda or an after-market warranty house? Did the warranty include the Power Train? If it included the Power Train and you got 100,000 warranty time period you should not have to pay to replace it.
    On my transmission replacement, in 2007, I wrote Honda and in the meantime paid the full amount of CN$4,200. They refunded half. I had 184,000kms on it and my warranty was for 160,000kms. Had it happen up to 160,000kms it would have been 'no charge'.
    I currently have 307,000kms on my 2002.
  • bg18947bg18947 Posts: 183
    I just had my Odyssey towed to the dealer yesterday. Transmission started showing signs of problems about 2 weeks ago. But, it clunked and slipped like crazy yesterday morning. The original transmission was replaced at about 60K, 1st replacement was then replaced just shy of 90K. This 2nd replacement transmission lasted less than 30 months and I got less than 25K out of it. Odometer is at 114K+.

    I expect that Honda will give me some kind of discount because this is a ridiculously short life for a transmission. Everything about the vehicle is nice except for the transmission. I always warn people looking for used 99-01 to be aware of the notorious transmission issues. 02-03 also have problems but not as bad as the old 4-speed. :lemon:
  • ramy1995ramy1995 Posts: 39
    i had same problem, mine is 2000, if you live in area of washington dc, i can fix it for you for lot less,
    dan
  • vgervger Posts: 30
    Good to hear Dan. Don't get depressed if you find that you need to do it one more time, maybe in 20,000 or 30,000 miles.. There will be residule debris in the passages, but second cleaning with some fresh Tranny fluid will extend the next interval. I agree that most problems with our tranny started with these filters, but there are also engineering problems, such as a weak thrust bearing and problems with the torque converter.
  • ramy1995ramy1995 Posts: 39
    on the risk of being misunderstood as a fan of honda, i say: the tranny after 150k miles, and after cleaning the screens in 3k miles, moves pretty well, although, i noticed that after drivning for 30-45 mints, first gear to second shift becomes jerky, and ugly. when cold, no problem whatsoever, stilll 200000 times better than what used to be , that might proof what you said,
    any remedy for the weak thrust bearing and torque converter short of replacing them?
    thanks again
    dan
  • i have 2000 odyssey also....my shop is telling me there is a problem with the solenoid, so they want to rebuild the transmission, etc. Can the solenoid be fixed instead...how do they interact?
  • ramy1995ramy1995 Posts: 39
    your shop is bsing u like they did to me, tell them specifically that you want them to remove and clean the linear and shifter selonoid, just clean , put back and ur car will run much better. i did that to my 2000 oddy myslef and ran like charm. problem is, how do u know they did that<?
    where do you live?
  • vgervger Posts: 30
    All solenoids are located outside of the tranny so there is no need to overhaul. If your clutch plates are worn due to the lack of pressure (faulty solenoid) than you need to overhaul. Wonder what the cost of solenoids? You can look up the cost online.
  • you will never find a tran shop that tells you it is only the selonooidss.. it is always overhaul.. why? coz the difrence is 3500 dollars for them .
    clean your seline diyons.. selonoids and see what happens.. it is i think 3 hours by the book, although , me no mechanic with cave man tools, i did it in 3 hours.
  • My Canadian Ontario dealer never BS me! I had a 3rd pressure switch ($289) replaced last Dec and went faulty in August 2012; they replaced it No charge, They said I could have a heat sensor go at any time; just bring it in asap and they will gladly change it. I had the transmission replaced at 184,000 kms. Two years ago I had an after market transmission cooler installed. I currently have 308,000 kms.
  • We had the second transmission fail in our 01 Odyssey on our vacation last week. The original only got us to 119,000 miles and the first replacement got us to 170,000. We won't put a third transmission in this van at nearly $5000. The Odyssey was our first and last Honda we will ever buy.
  • I Have a 2000 Honda odyssey that the transmisson failed at 129000. When Honda Coggin replaced at no cost we were happy. That only lasted 56000 miles however when it also failed! Tired of Honda failed trans solutions, we had Best Transmission Jacksonville FL trans shop repair 2nd transmission. It failed after 44000! Do these businesses have free reign to screw the public as they so choose?
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,472
    well, after 229,000 miles, maybe it is time to just get a new car?

    and if that is all the problems you had with it, probably still ahead of the game.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • Let me get this straight, gary. You got 185,000 miles on your 2000 ody without paying for any transmission issues, and you are COMPLAINING? Please find something else to whine about, somewhere else. Do you think cars are mattresses or furniture? These things have moving parts that wear down over time! At 185,000 you would have been best to count your numerous blessings and find a good low-mileage minivan on the used market. Orin those ten years of driving, you could have put aside money for future repairs. Sorry Gary, find another shoulder to cry on. Our trouble-free 2006 Ody is at 145K miles, and when it has some issues, I will accept them. This is a motor vehicle! :mad:
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,198
    You certainly don't need to be ridiculed for wanting sympathy about the failures. There is an ongoing problem with Honda transmissions.

    But Stickguy has a good point. Most Odyssey problems with transmissions aren't being handled with any help of merit from Honda. And at 100,000K you're on your own. You were indeed lucky with a good dealership.

    Did the transmission shop install a cooler on the transmission? And a filter? It sounds like that's what it takes.
  • imi,

    If Honda had a warranty like Hyundai, 100K miles on engine and power train, and you bought a Hyundai, and the transmission had issues at 120K miles, would you blame Hyundai and ask for a free transmission replacement? If you say yes, then I have little sympathy.

    I wager that for every Ody with tranny issues, there are 50 that work just fine. You just don't have the satisfied people posting their good experiences. I am trying to make up for the countless others like me that have had trouble-free Ody ownership.
  • bg18947bg18947 Posts: 183
    By the way, the 4th transmission was replaced for free. Apparently, it's a 3yr/36K mile warranty on replacement transmissions. I went to Nanuet Honda in Rockland county, NY. I don't like bringing the car to the dealerships because it never comes back the same. They usually have the worst mechanics.

    After I got the car back, I noticed that some screws were missing and things were out of place near the air filter compartment. Also, I can now feel some clicking type sound along the steering column, like something wasn't quite put back right. They had to cut and replace a bar (anti-sway?) to get to the transmission. Apparently the bolts were siezed. Also, after having this transmission for less than a month, I did feel it slip once so far going from 1st to 2nd.

    I guess I'll drive this until it dies again and then it's time for a new car. It won't be a new Odyssey because I don't like the fact that the new ones got wider. I liked the 2000 just the way it was. I think it is still the best looking minivan ever. 2nd comes the current Siennas. If I have to buy a wider car, I may look at the Pilot (which is ugly outside) or perhaps the 2013 Pathfinder after I take it for a whirl.
  • bg18947bg18947 Posts: 183
    Agreed. Other than the unreliable transmission issue, the Odyssey has been great. The car has held up well after 12 years. The car still handles excellent, still gets good mileage on the highway, can carry loads of junk, and I fill up the back on bi-weekly Costco visits. The interior was Scotchgarded and it remains very clean. Most people can't believe it's a 2000. The paint has held up well with the expected pits from road debris causing nicks all over the front of the car.
  • most likly you and most others here neve needed transmissin rebuilt, just tran servic,selonoid clean up .. but hey we are ll supposed to support theeconomy somehow
  • I have a 2001 Honda Odyssey. At 89000 miles the transmission failed and was replaced free by Honda. Four years later and and 32000 miles on the second transmission it failed too. I took it to the dealer, who checked with Honda - they would not fix it. I called Honda and they blew me off, saying the decision is final. The Honda Odyssey transmission is a piece of crap, it obviously has serious design flaws, Honda knows it but they do not take responsibility. Will never, ever buy another Honda again. My 1974 Alfa Romeo still has the original transmission and works perfectly. In my 50 years of driving - about a dozen different cars, I've never had a transmission problem until the Odyssey.
  • tgwgtgwg Posts: 4
    I also had a 2001 Honda Odyssey. Tranny went at 150,000. I was lucky it lasted that long. I have read all these posts over the last 3 years. Unbelievable that they will still not admit a trnny design flaw. The only way to fight it is not to buy a Honda!! I won't. My Toyota has been great.
  • out of feeling bad to all "bad tranny brethrns" , look up my other posts ,might help you
  • I called a trans shop and asked if they could clean the linear & shift solenoids. They said yes, but everytime they look at them they are clean already and that isn't the problem? So i guess I am not doing this...
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    If Honda were to Man-Up about these POS trannys, they would go back to the drawing board and do the following.

    First and foremost, redesign the case to include a removable pan for servicing a decent fluid filter (not a "screen" like they have now)

    Engineer a bigger more robust oil pump to handle more volume and pressure and route all the a/t fluid through a heavy duty cooler.

    Redesign all the clutch pacs with thicker more durable 'Kevlar' type of material.

    Solve the internal drain back problem of the torqe converter. (this one's easy, the after market already has the solution)

    Have a servicable external fluid filter to catch any metal and other circulating debris before it gets into the main internals and plugs up the solenoid screens.
    This filter would be changed at service intervals just like the other fluids or sooner by any DIY owner. (Also, already solved and available to anyone with $14.00)

    Personally, I have always suspected the Z1 Honda fluid as part of the problem, Honda has quietly dropped it after 10 years of telling everyone that if you used anything else, your a/t would melt and you would be stranded forever in a dark world surrounded by Amsoil Sales Zombies.

    I'm sure there are more suggestions out there so feel free to add to this list.
  • I bought my 2003 Odyssey new in 5/03 and am the original owner. It has been a great vehicle for our family and I've taken great care of it. Well, my transmission went out at 141,000 miles on Saturday, 10/06/12. I had the transmission cooler put on in the 2004 recall and the transmission has always been herky jerky at certain speeds, going from 2nd to 3rd gear especially. I talked with a gentleman who has been rebuilding transmissions for 53 years and comes highly recommended by all the mechanic shops I've talked to in the area (Eustis, Mount Dora, and Tavares, FL). He stated that these transmissions are only expected to last 150,000 miles. Some get more, some get less. He said he could rebuild the transmission in it for $2000 and it would/should go for another 150,000 miles (1 year or 12,000 mile warranty). He believes these vehicles to be solid and reliable and that for the most part they are very reputable. They can be costly to maintain when they are older but the engine is a good one (3.5 V6 240hp). I wouldn't take it to Honda for a tranny rebuild. They will charge $4-6k.

    With that being said, I am trading it in and getting a Toyota Sienna.
  • longo2longo2 Posts: 347
    edited October 2012
    Oct 6 2012:

    Honda Has 'Week From Hell' After Laundry List of Recalls and Investigations

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    Toyota Sienna's are not all bullet proof either, check out this Consumer Reports site for few, but not all of Toyota Sienna issues. (they also have forum sites just like this one on Honda's Time-Bomb-Transmissions.)

    2004-2010 Toyota Sienna: Reliability

    Trouble Spots
    In many instances these trouble spots are Technical Service Bulletins posted by the manufacturer, however, we have our own expert looking at additional vehicle problems.

    Audio system: The voice activated navigation system may add extra words when responding to the driver's request requiring reprogramming with an updated DVD. (2007)

    Brake wear: The front brake pads do not last very long on vehicles subject to severe operation. (2004-08)

    Check-engine light: A check engine light, possibly accompanied by drivability concerns, is likely due to a vacuum leak at the intake air control valve on the 3.3L V6 engine. (2004)

    Check-engine light: Check engine light may come on due to failure of the air/fuel ratio sensor(s). (2005-06)

    Cold-starting problems: Engine may not start in freezing weather due to fuel pump failure requiring replacement of the pump assembly. (2004-05)

    Doors: The rear hatch door shudders in cold weather due to possible leak in the gas charged support rod (stay). A redesigned support is available. (2004)

    Doors: Extra effort my be required to close the rear or sliding side power doors for which there are improved touch sensors. (2004-07)

    Doors: The doors will not stay open because the welds for the door checks break and the company is extending warranty replacement to 5 years/100,000 miles. (2004-06)

    Engine misfire: Misfires accompanied by the check engine light may be due to problems with one or more of the ignition coils. (2004)

    Oil leak: Fluid may leak past the right side oil seal on the AWD transfer case. (2004-06)

    Seat: If the rear seat won't stay stowed, a revised striker offers more positive engagement. (2004)

    Steering problems: Steering effort increases as corrosion increases on steering column intermediate shaft due to road salt. (2004-06)

    Transmission problems: The transmission gradually gets harder to shift, requiring installation of an improved cable assembly. (2004-05)

    Windows: The side windows may rattle or quit working .

    This table lists costs of likely repairs for comparison with other vehicles. The dollar amount includes the cost of the part(s) and labor (based on $50 per hour) for the typical repair without extras or add-ons. Like the pricing information, replacement costs can vary widely depending on region. Expect charges at a new-car dealership to be slightly higher.
    Item Name Repair Cost
    A/C Compressor $1,320
    Alternator $780
    Automatic Transmission or Transaxle $3,460
    Brakes $1,320
    Clutch, Pressure Plate, Bearing $0
    Constant Velocity Joints $1,450
    Exhaust System $890
    Radiator $920
    Shocks and/or Struts $2,300
    Timing Chain or Belt $830
  • I am very disappointed with Honda, I bought this 2000 Honda Odyssey brand new thinking that I was buying a very reliable vehicle that was one of the biggest reasons I bought this car over Toyota. Had I known I was going to have three transmissions fail on me I would have never bought this car! My first transmission went on me at just 40,000 miles while I was with my three kids in my car and in the middle of an intersection! I took my car to Bay Ridge Honda and just started finding out that Honda had a transmission problem! Honda replaced my transmission only to have it fail at 80,000 mile this time I was with my family on Vacation in Pennsylvania 130 miles away from my home with three kids and my wife! I had to have the car towed to a Honda dealer in Pennsylvania where it stood for a week. Mean while I had to have someone come all the way out to P.A. to bring me and my family home! The Honda dealer in P.A. replaced the transmission telling me this time that Honda has a MAJOR problem with these transmissions! (I had to go all the way back out to P.A. just to pick my car up!) Now at 111,000 miles my transmission failed once again!! But this time I called Honda of North America and spoke with Darell Harville and he told me now it&#146;s my problem!!! I told him the transmission problem was never fixed and if I knew that Honda was going to treat me this way after buying their product I would have never bought this car. I was willing to understand that things happen and as long as Honda was willing to stand by their product and take care of this I wouldn't have a problem with Honda, but they make a defective product and are not willing to stand by it! I had to pay $1900 hundred to have my transmission replaced because Honda wouldn&#146;t stand by this problem that they have!!
  • Honda of North America and Darell Harville didn't stick by me, and I hope no one sticks by Honda BUY FROM SOMEONE ELSE !!! you only know how good a company is and that's when things go wrong !!!!!
  • pisciottapisciotta Posts: 54
    edited October 2012
    If this was an AMERICAN CAR COMPANY this would have been all over the news and a MAJOR RECALL !!!! Honda lost a class action lawsuit on this matter !! I contacted NTHSA no response I contacted my local news stations no response that's because it wasn't an AMERICAN CAR COMPANY !! but I told all my friends, family, car forums. it might have cost me but it will cost HONDA !! they replaced hundreds of thousands of transmissions between Honda's and ACURA"S 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003
  • 3 posts in a row, you are upset your 12 year old van has a problem. We get it, and it is "why wasn't THERE a recall?" There was a settlement that extended the warranty to over 100,000 miles, but you received 2 trannys to get beyond that extension. :cry:
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