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Toyota Sienna Brakes

linealinea Posts: 8
My Sienna 2005 experience intermittent complete brake failure 3 times within 18,000 miles,the brake pedal goes to the floor and it does not slow down, so I coast until I stop. However, when I release the brake pedal and then reapply the brakes, it works fine. A non-Toyota mechanic thinks it's due to malfunction of ABS. The dealership is unable to finds error codes and brakes work fine when the Sienna is in their hands. I scared that the brakes will not work the next time I reapply the brakes.
Has anyone else experience similar problem or have suggestings?
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  • This almost sounds like a bad master cylinder issue. From my days before ABS existed, I remember having to pump the brakes to build up pressure to get a car to stop. Invariably, I would end up replacing the master cylinder and bleeding the brake system. Things would be just fine after this.

    It could also be contaminated brake fluid, air in the system or a bad connection between the brake peddle and the master cylinder.

    I've got a 2005 but have not experienced a problem with the brakes (only have 8200 miles though.)
  • linealinea Posts: 8
    Thanks for the suggestions. They have bleed the brake system and check the master cylinder, but Van brakes continue to fail intermittently.
  • jprocjproc Posts: 133
    On our Sienna the brake light keeps on coming on.It will flash on and then after a minute os so will go off.Anybody haver this problem? Brakes seem fine no squealing etc.
  • I have a 2004 XLE AWD Limited Sienna. We have had problems
    all across the board. I have had the van in 3x's for brake
    noises...grinding, squeaking, that even runs itself under
    the center of the van. Each time they say the brakes are fine and lubricate it greatly. (one set of pads has been replaced, can't remember front or back) Within 5 days, it's all back. When coming up my drive, you almost get a rusty bed springs creaking as the van turns the hill. The kids hear it..it's crazy for a $40,000 tag. We are in the process of looking to buy a Sequoia because this thing has been in the shop more than my old crummy caravan. My list is long.
    Can anyone suggest what to tell the Toyota service people to look for? I have read others saying replacing drums etc.
  • jjoseph2jjoseph2 Posts: 18
    I am looking for a service Manual for 2002 Toyota sienna(ce).If any one have it please post a message.I like to have it on a cd And willing to pay.
    Jemini
  • ClairesClaires Chicago areaPosts: 976
    Hi, Jemini,

    A good place to ask about this is in our Owners Manuals topic in the Maintenance & Repair Forum. Click the link to read a post from another member who obtained a manual free from Toyota.

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  • jjoseph2jjoseph2 Posts: 18
    Hi,Claires Thanks for your help.I am looking for the service manual not the owner's manual. I know Toyota is not going to give me a free service manual.It will cost me around $200.
  • ClairesClaires Chicago areaPosts: 976
    Um, no... probably not. :( I'm guessing you've already looked on eBay?

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  • buyer777buyer777 Posts: 70
    How much should a front brake job go for on a 2001 Sienna?
  • I bought an '07 Sienna last week. After I left the lot, I notice the brakes slightly and rhythmatically grinding as I come to a stop. The salesman said that was just part of the break-in: I think not. :mad: I've dropped it off at the service dept of my nearby dealer for examination and repair.

    Separate observation: The tires' valve stems are way too short. It's very challenging to air up the tires (two tires were 5 lbs shy of the recommended 35 lbs. The service rep suggested that I install extenders on them. Toyota should ship the vehicle with stems that are .5 to .34 inches longer.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Which rims do you have? Steel or alloy? And what size?

    I haven't aired mine up yet (dealer adjusted the pressure for me once though), but I think the valve stems are pretty standard, so maybe it's just the rim design.
  • Try www.toyotapart.com
    Got that from a Tacoma forum when I owned one. I ended up not buying anything for my Tacoma, but did get a set of carpeted floor mats for an '01 Camry. I was on that site on Monday looking for wheel covers for my '06 Sienna, which I didn't find, so was digging around a bit. I saw Owners Manuals listed.
    This site is a Toyota dealer in Michigan. I'm too tired to check right now, long story...
    I ended up buying the wheel covers (Hub Caps?) for my CE on ebay.
  • I did check; $25.58
  • Your post was March 18. Like I said, I was tired...
    never mind :blush:
  • Very tired. Back in March, you asked for a Service Manual.
    If anyone needed a new Owners manual for an '02 Sienna, maybe at least I can save some face. :blush:
  • Steel rims.

    The stems seem to be standard, but the wheel covers prevent easy access to them with a standard 90-degree air tool. I just installed 1-inch stem extenders that solve the problem and let me avoid more scratched knuckles.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I still haven't looked at mine, but I have the 16" alloys. I hope they're easier access to the valves than the wheel covers allow.
  • Do I need an scan tool to cycle the pump and valves when bleeding the brakes??
    Is there a bleeder bolt at the ABS controller??
  • ava2ava2 Posts: 1
    I just had to replace my brakes for the 3rd time. I have 36,000miles and this is the third time. It has worked out to around 11,000 miles or so on a set of brakes. It cost right around $275.00 each time. Anyone else having this problem?
  • gunga64gunga64 Posts: 271
    Just had my front pads and rotors resurfaced cost $139.00 on Sienna 2001. You may have to get a few estimates from different places.

    Went to 3 places:

    Toyota dealer wanted to charge $500.00 said needed 2 pads 2 shoes and all resurfacing, plus needed wheel cylinders repaired.

    Just brakes ripoff place don't go there: 2 pads 2 shoes and resurfacing, plus wanted to rebuild calipers repack bearings and some extra charges. Price quoted was $270.00 but read how they low ball you in and then trap you later with price increases to bring price up, so we left that place.

    Standalone shop: Said just needed front pads and resurfacing of front rotor and rear brake adjust. I just went for the front: costs $139.00 will do rear brake adjust myself as it is easy.

    Note: How they all found something different, when all I went in there for was for front pads and resurfacing.

    Had the pads replaced at around 45,000 this is the first time I had resurface since new. Sienna has 98,000 miles have had little issue with brakes.
  • caravan2caravan2 Posts: 198
    If you have drums on rear, they lost much longer than Rotors.

    Also, for future, look for new Rotors instead of resurfacing.. sometimes you can buy new rotor for $20 at shops like Autozone. I was installing new rotors myself instead of resurfacing on my Caravan and I plan to do the same on Sienna. And Rotors are easy to install.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Next time consider life time brake pads. Costs more up front but you'll never pay for pads again.
  • caravan2caravan2 Posts: 198
    But their is catch for lifetime pads... you still have to pay for the labor.
  • gunga64gunga64 Posts: 271
    Yeah, I usually put in new rotors I priced them at 24.95 each. I have done them on my camry. I would think the sienna would have been a little harder and since I dont plan on keeping it as long I went and had them turned. I also had the option to put on cermics for 20 bucks more but I plan on only keeping the van 6 months. Why put more money into it.

    The fix it shops don't want to change the rotors as much as they used to. Because now they can turn the old rotors right on the car. It's a lot easier and faster for them. Yet they still charge a premium to do it. figures!
  • gunga64gunga64 Posts: 271
    Sounds like you have a problem with your calipers. They should last much much longer. Get more quotes
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    An on-car lathe is more accurate, though, since the rotor is torqued down.
  • gunga64gunga64 Posts: 271
    Update from previous post:

    Well I cleaned the back brakes with break cleaner for $2.50 and adjusted them cost me nothing. Actually the back brakes did not need adjusting at all they were fine. I checked the shoes on the back breaks as the dealership said I needed new shoes. It looked like to me that I had plenty of shoe left, enough to last 2 more years at least.

    The dealership was very persistant on getting my brakes done there. So much so he was going to take 10% off. But glad I didn't get it done there 139.00 is better for my wallet then 500.00. Also the dealer said I needed both wheel cylinders replaced as they "appear" to have a leak. I checked them while I had the drum off they were dry just brake dust on them.
  • I have to resurface my rotors constantly on my 2002 seinna. Can a person replace the rotors and pads at home if he is not familiar with this procedure? I was wondering if I could put a EBC or Brembo rotor in and have them last longer than one 600 mile road trip. Also, would Ceramic pads help with the heat issue that makes the cheap rotors warp??-=Dave=-
  • gunga64gunga64 Posts: 271
    I have done rotors and pads on the past 3 toyotas I have. I am a little scared to tackle the rotors on my 01 because of the sensors and abs. You have to resurface your rotors a lot??? I think they can only be resurfaced once maybe twice. If you are wearing the rotors fast or uneven then the calipers may be bad. I like my cermic pads on my camry that I put in myself. They don't cost more for the cermics part as the repair shops make them sound. Like 4 bucks more per pad its really rediculous what they charge for cermics.

    If you are good with your hands you should be able to do the brake job But I would go to a discount auto or someplace that has a repair book for your model and look at the procedure. I have a book on mine. I can usually fix things but if the book makes it overly complicated I do not attempt it. Getting the rotor off can be an issue. I even used my car jack to unseat a stuck rotor once. It worked like a charm. Sure beat hitting it with a hammer (what I did for the first 30 minutes trying to get it off)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You might want to at least get some help from a friend with experience on your first brake job.
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