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Acura TL vs Infiniti G35

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  • scott:

    did you have a TL before your G? What are the best and worst aspects of your G? When I test drove a G back to back with a TL in 2004 the G bested the TL in handling but the TL won in everything else (comfort, technology, etc ...). That is why I am driving a TL now but might make the switch in October to a G35x depending on my test drive.

    Thanks for any info you can provide.
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    04G out-handled, out-braked, and out-accelerated the TL by a very good margin in most cases...but inside and tech sucked. Add vastly superior tech and comparable quality interior to the G, and that sums up the current comparison. Personally, I hope the 09 TL is incredible. My 07G lease will be up in 2010 and I'll go back to the TL : )
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    I believe the fit and finish is very comparable, although the G has no squeaks or rattles like the TL is plagued with.
    Interior styling is subjective so we may not agree, but I personally gave the G the edge here.
    The G also offered WAY more technology and I love the Nav interface, although it is partially locked while the car is in motion.
    Once you get to know the car's language, pretty much everything is accessable through voice commands... but it's not like our 06 MDX.
    It is just as easy to use though.
    In fact, with our MDX, little things like changing the resolution or brightness require menus to be drilled down 4 or 5 levels.
    Everything is one touch in the G... nice interface.

    Although I am a gadget nut, the bottom line for me was the ride, the power, the handling and most of all, just how it made me feel.
    I care nothing about car magazine reviews or other people's opinions. I was dropping a $35,000 deposit on this car and I wanted what made me happiest, and cared nothing for what others thought.
    You need to do the same.

    After buying our MDX last year, Acura knew I was in the market for my car as well, and REALLY pushed the TL.
    I was given an 07 TL on 6 occasions, 2 of them being Type-S's.
    All were loaned out for the day so I had 6 chances to get to know the car on my 50 mile commute to work.
    After 6 rides, quite frankly, I was bored.
    After driving the G, I felt what the TL was missing.
    There's a Luxury feel that the TL missed, and the ride/power/handling was spot on.

    I love my G and would do it again in a second, worth every cent too.

    With that being said, I'm keeping one eye on Acura and the new TL. 2009 should be something and let the first to have it's work out the bugs.
    I'll be in line for an 2010 or 2011, if the G novelty ever wears off. :blush:

    07 G35x - Prem/Nav/Tech/Rosewood - Blue Slate on Graphite
    See mycarspace page for pics. :)
  • Thanks for the input. I'll probably test drive the G35 tomorrow to get an idea. My 04 TL has had many squeaks and rattles which continue despite multiple visits to the dealer. I would have to assume that the G also has its share of problems as well (see post above). How have you found the dealer and their service? Is Infiiniti known for good or bad service in general or is it more dealer specific. Acura's service seemed to be pretty good to me (despite the fact they couldn't get rid of all my squeaks and rattles).
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    And there you have it.....the gospel according to factfinder. :sick:
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,149
    BR...that makes sense. RL gets the V8. The redesign is due in '10. That may finally get it the respect it needs.

    The Accord's redesign will be launched next MY. Staying with the 5 year plan, and the "spy shots" beginning to emerge from secret testing, '09 will be the year for the new TL. I've mentioned before, a TL with ~300 HP and SH AWD, a little tweaking on the style side, keeping the feature content and build of the current vehicle, I may very well be a buyer after my 3 series warranty is up (about the same time the '09 TL will come out), especially if it stays very near what the current TL sells for.

    I can see a Type-S version with a V8.

    I wonder if the TSX will get the V6 that's going into the Accord?
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    As owner of first year current TL and first year current G...the G doesn't make NEARLY the noises of the acura. 04 TL didn't flex as much as the 03 (I used to silicone my sunroof seal as it squeaked from flex), but it still made some noises in the dash and rear in particular. My G (At least) is free of noises, other than the occasional seatbelt rattle, and some wind noise. Driving them back to back I determined the wind noise was relative to the very quiet cabin. Acura put Active Noise Cancellation in the Type S for a reason...it's got a noisey interior. G body seems to be pretty much flex-free.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    I honestly don't know much about Infiniti's service level as this is my first, but I have been back for oil changes and a quick TSB and I was very happy with the professionalism and service.
    I can say the same for Acura as well.
    They have always been very friendly and up front, although they never did fix the sub-woofer rattles in the MDX. :sick:
  • So I had my G35x test drive today. Am very impressed. The G handles significantly better then the TL (just ask the salesguy who might have had to change his underwear when we got back to the dealer!). The interior was much better then I remember back in 04 - little problems but much improved. Will still test drive the 07 TL-S but will likely go with the G35x.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    :)

    Enjoy the Type-S test drive... and then your new G! ;)
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,149
    OK....here's the next Accord....

    http://jalopnik.com/cars/spy-photos/2008-honda-accord-coupe-now-with-new-picture- s-288702.php

    It doesn't take too much imagination to see the Acura TL grill being used here. Probably the grill would drop well into the lower front facia. Fog lamps woud flak the bottom end of the grill. With the TL being a 4 door, the rear doors would have to flow into the roofline.

    Looking at the rear, it's clear that the LED tailights used on the current gen TL wouldn't need much massaging to fit...maybe they'd be a bit larger.

    Looking at the size of the hood, a V6 VTEC with 300+ HP would fit nicely. Ground clearence suggests it would accomodate SH-AWD mechanicals, too. Wonder if they can fit a V8 in there?

    Front doors forward looks to have a few styling clues from a Lexus ES/IS. Rear isn't dramatically different from the current TL, with some swoopier styling clues.
  • gooddeal2gooddeal2 Posts: 749
    ...seem the front of Accord sedan is almost the same as the Sonata. :surprise:
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    And the back looks like a Lexus. What we have here is an Lexord.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,149
    kd....I can see a bit of Lexus in the rear, too. It will be interesting to see Acura's take on the platform. "Lexord"......LOL! I think Honda should hire you as a marketing person.
  • The new Acura TL looks just like the Honda Accord.I invite anyone with a newer model TL (2005 - 2009) or TSX to come to Temecula and go head to head with my G35 tiptronic sedan. 0-60 in faster than your Acura. More quality and better leather in all. Anyone who wants a real vehicle, go to your Infiniti dealer. If you buy a used '06, your ahead of the Acura '09. If you buy a new Infiniti, you're even that much more ahead.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Thanks, but no thanks. We don't like slummin' it!
  • Not sure what you mean by "slummin it"? Please explain. Comment makes no sense. Where r u from?
  • Temecula is a very high class area with only home owners in the above 500K range! Where you live? The bronx? Sounds like it.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I'm not sure this conversation is going in a useful direction...

    Maybe we could just get back to discussing the pros and cons of the vehicles that are the subject here? Challenges to duels seem so out of date.
  • blnewtoblnewto Posts: 146
    Tested both the 08 TL, TL-S & 08 G, we ended up w/ a slightly used 07 G (6k miles), having put 22k miles on the G thus far we've had no rattle issues, only quality issue was a sunroof seal and it was covered by a TSB (and has remained intact for the last year). The TL was impressive but if it ONLY had RWD, then I'd be more willing to re-consider a TL as a future vehicle in my garage. The G is much more willing to grip & rip than the TL, much more in line w/ the 3 & 5 series BMWs.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The new Acura TL looks just like the Honda Accord.

    Um, sorry. Not seeing it.

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    Now, the Altima and the G is a different story...

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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Don't worry about it, it was just a little tongue-in-cheek comment, based on the fact that the consensus is that TLs have a plusher interior than the G35. I wasn't thinking of the geographical locations or house values of G owners. But since you brought it up, in my area, the average home value is probably, oh, I would say, about $1.75M. It's not Buckingham Palace, but it's not bad. ;)
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I was scratching my head over his TL/Accord comparison too. Your visual reply was bang-on.
  • sjaievesjaieve Posts: 252
    Its takes an acquired taste to like how the new TL looks. I hope for their sake, the price on the TL will save the day. I forsee sells not being at par with the previous model. Honda seems to have tried really hard to make the TL look like a Linkoln MKS. They might not look alike but there is some resemblance.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I didn't say I liked the TL, you'll notice. ;) Just that it didn't look like the Accord.

    As for the MKS and the TL's similarities, they would be purely coincidental.
  • sjaievesjaieve Posts: 252
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=135807?tid=edmund- s.il.home.photopanel..1.*

    I have to admit, I like Edmunds. They look at total ownership experience, i.e. handling, straight line accelarion, pricing, interior, the works, before concluding. Contrast with their competitor, car & driver. I am also left scratching my head at the conclusions tjose guys reach. They had an article were they placed the 09 TL ahead of the G. I have no idea how one can come to that conclusion. If you look at their C&D 10 best cars, you will realize that most likely, you would never want 80-90% of those 10 cars in your garage.

    Keep up the good work Edmunds
  • johninnjjohninnj Posts: 243
    Interior looks nice...and I saw where a TL beat an S4 around a track....but those acceleration times are pathetic. As much as people refuse to admit..most rate power by how fast something goes when you "Drop the hammer". I had an 04 TL...and it was a GREAT car for 33K...this one weighs 4,000 lbs and costs 44K? I predict HORRIBLE sales. And what happened to the AWD G....no more sport package?
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Yup, I think Acura will regret super-sizing the TL.
  • sjaievesjaieve Posts: 252
    Yup, the old TL looks much better. The S4, like everything else from Germany, is overpriced. With the way the economy is, overpriced is not the way to go.
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