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Mitsubishi Montero

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  • I cancelled my appointment with Mitsubishi shop in mid December on the radio/CD static problem, when it disappeared after the nice sunny dry day here today. I have been careful not to get rain or snow on the door speakers and windows up tight when wet. The radio/CD has worked fine since mid December; so, I am convinced it is a moisture related problem as others have experienced. Also, it is not quite out of warranty. I plan to let the dealer know I have an intermittent problem and put it on my maintenance records if replacement required in the future.

    Loving my Bridgestone Dueler Revos for the snow & icy roads.
  • magillamagilla Posts: 75
    We have a '98 Montero (full sized) that we've enjoyed very much. This morning it turned 60K miles. The dealer had been great - until now.

    The problem is that the center row, center seatbelt has disintegrated (the male end, not the receiver). Let me just state for the record that I have never in all my years of driving seen a seatbelt malfunction let alone disintegrate like that. On top of that, now the passenger side, center row seatbelt won't retract. For a vehicle that's never been in an accident, this is a problem. Also, the center row, center belt is RARELY, if ever used. Here's the rub that worsens the problem: The dealer says it's a 3/36 item. Mitsubishi and I both say it's 5/60. Then they look up my VIN. Date of service - I'm a couple of days out of service now. When I brought up the problem to them, I wasn't. Mitsubishi says to take it to the dealer and let them look at it. That's tomorrow. I can tell you this: if one of my children gets hurt between now and the time this issue is resolved, it won't be good for the dealer that was trying to weasel out of covering it when I brought it up. I've been fighting with the dealer for months now.

    So tomorrow, you'll know if you want to buy another Mitsubishi product or not. I've not talked with anyone else that's had this issue. Anyone? I'll let you all know what happens.
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    Brand new 2003, LTD w/ premium pkg for $28K. Can I do better or is it as low as it gets?
  • Saturday I trade my once loved, now hated 2001 Mitsubishi Monteron Ltd. in on a Nissan. Good thing Mitsubishi makes a good truck because I would have been in deep trouble with any "real" issues. I have exhausted getting my truck serviced at ALL the Mitsubishi dealerships within driving distance. The ONE that was half way decent STOPPED selling Mitsubishi's late last year. Furthermore, Mitsubishi corporate claimed no control over their dealers and did not want any parts of a warranty dispute. So, now I try Nissan. I am use to Honda service, but they don't have a big enough vehicle!

    I used this board before I purchased Mitsubishi and the truck has been good to us, but the dealerships have not. When I think about it, a lot of the posts were form guys in CA that liked to go off-road and fix the truck themselves. So, I'm sure they love it since they don't have to deal with Mitsu. service. If you depend on others, like I do, to fix your truck, RUN THE OTHER WAY!

    Now to my question........

    Has anyone traded a 2001 Full Size Ltd. recently? I have one with a hitch, running boards, sunroof visor, window visors and hood visor. There is also a brand new, never used set of mats still in the plastic. It has 63,000 miles on it. Anyone, know what I should be getting on trade? 90% of my offers are for $12,500. I have one guy saying up to $14,00, but he won't even guarantee $12,500 and he is 1 1/2 hours away. Any input is appreciated.
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    ...is not full-size, last time I checked.

    Also, if it's such a wonderful vehicle then what else, except for fluid changes and the timing belt every now and then do you need to service so often? Both can be done at any decent service station.

    You either have way too much money to throw away to sell it so early and so cheap or you just wanted a van in the first place and there's nothing wrong with that. No need to blame it on the Mitsu service (or is really the ever smaller dealer network).
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    I don't think anyone mentioned it yet but on Jan. 5th Mitsu announced their new and better powertrain warranty applicable to ALL 2004s, even the EVO (10 year/100K miles). Still not as good as my 2002 Trooper but at least there are good chances Mitsubishi will actually stay in business that long :-)

    http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2004010530337&m- - - - ime=ASC

    Any news on when 2004 Monteros will be available?
  • Either I'm taking your tone wrong, or you are making a lot of assumptions that you shouldn't.

    My dealer did a horrible brake job, if you must know. And refused to make it good.

    And when the truck was new, the same dealer broke my roof, when the sunroof got stuck open. Told me I was lucky that they even fixed the roof because it was an aftermarket roof. It was STANDARD. They just didn't know what they were talking about.

    Another dealership needed 3+ weeks notice for an oil change.

    So, your assumption that I want to throw money away is an uninformed comment. There are many other issues I have had with dealers. If you want details, I would be glad to share with you. But, please don't get obnoxious with me. I want anything but a van, but the van has the room I need!

    Another dealer
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    Sorry about the tone in my previous posting - I was actually whispering when I wrote it...

    1. I'm glad they finally fixed your roof - the whole unpleasant experience is behind you now.

    2. Oil changes can be done anywhere, they'll do a decent job, won't void your warranty, and save you some money in the long-run (plus you wouldn't need a 3-week notice)

    3. Paying for fixing the brakes yourself now is probably ten times more cost-effective than trading the 2-3-year old truck in and losing so much money in the process.

    4. You said yourself you really NEED the room that vans offer.

    I still don't see a problem here - unless it's the warranty service you need (and it's always a hit or miss with any brand) I would run away from the dealers to do my scheduled service, not these outstanding vehicles. I don't think Nissan (unless it's Infinity) is going to make you any happier.
  • dcmooredcmoore Posts: 14
    Hello--

    I'm considering a used 2003 Montero Limited. I previously owned a '99 Isuzu Trooper which I liked a lot. Unfortunately, it was recently totaled in a collision (I walked away without a scratch). I've been looking around in SoCal for used Troopers but haven't seen anything yet that fits what I want in terms of price or mileage, so thought I'd broaden my search to include Monteros because there are so many more of them advertised for sale.

    From all the reviews I've read, it sounds like the Montero is right along the lines of what I'm looking for and I'm particularly interested in a 2003 model to get the bigger engine. However, I noticed that Mitsu recommends premium fuel for it. Does anyone know whether the 2003 Montero can get along fine on "regular" unleaded?

    I'd also be interested in reading any recommendations you might have regarding whether to go after the 2003 Montero, reliability issues, etc. Thanks!

    dcmoore
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    Hey, I have a 2002 Trooper LS and I'm also seriously considering adding a 2003 or 2004 Monty to our stable :-)

    I think the concensus was that using regular fuel on any pre-2003 was fine though you wouldn't tell that to your dealer.

    In 2003 they still state that Premium fuel is 'recommended' (note: not 'required') and due to the increased compression ratio (10:1 from 9:1) on the newer engine, it probably makes a little bit more sense too. I would still think that regular fuel is fine for this gas hog though and wouldn't hesitate to feed it to it myself (especially if I were in Cali!).

    P.S. I'm also considering Axiom but I can't find any that's too cheap and I'd have to go all the way to Chicago to get one w/ the good ole' TOD. I saw some used Axiom listings on carsdirect.com today and the pricing was decent. Remember that those things have the beefed up Trooper engine in them and 2004s now got direct injection (250HP and mileage in the 20s on regular) - definitely something to consider...
  • First of all, my truck is 4 years old and has 63K miles on it. Not 2-3 years old like you said.

    Second of all, I said that these were great trucks. I simply said that service at ALL the dealerships in my area has SUCKED, to say the least. If you don't need the dealers, I would not run from the truck and I think I made that perfectly clear in my previous post. Lighten up. Don't be so defensive. If you get your vehicle serviced without a problem, I am happy for you. That just wasn't my experience with Mitsubishi.
  • Just my 2 cents worth. I own a 2001 Limited and a 2004 Lexus RX330. The Mitsubishi service department here is so far superior to the Lexus service. I have never had a problem with the service department. I always get a free loaner, even if it is just a oil change. If I had one complaint about the car, it is the poor fuel mileage, about 14 MPG, though no problem using regular. So far, 40,000 miles, one set of brakes, one set of tires last month(which changed the whole handling of the car for the better), 1 radio under warrentee, and that is it. Not a rattle in the car.
  • What new tires and size did you buy?
  • I just traded my 2001 LTD last night. I would have liked to have been able to keep the truck, but I had lost confidence in the service. I am glad to hear that some of you have had great service from Mitsubishi. You should! I was unable to find the service here that I expect. I am use to my local Honda dealer. And the 4 Mitsubishi dealers I have tried within a 45 mile radius have all SUCKED! We really enjoyed our truck over the past 4 years. Up until January '03 we had a few minor issues with dealer service, but the truck was so reliable we rarely needed the service department. So, it wasn't that big of a deal. In January '03, the dealer replaced the tires and brakes and it was nothing but a nightmare from then on. If you go back through this thread you will see some posts from when the problem was occurring. Nonetheless, my truck was never the same and quickly degraded from then on. It got so bad, we even suspected that they sabotaged our truck. Well, it is time for me to move over to the Nissan board.

    I will leave you all with this thought.....

    GREAT TRUCK, VERY RELIABLE AND WELL APPOINTED FOR THE PRICE. JUST CHECK INTO LOCAL SERVICE BEFORE YOU SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE. TALK TO PEOPLE IN PARKING LOTS IN THE AREA THAT YOU LIVE. ASK THEM ABOUT SERVICE. I WISH I HAD! ONCE I HAD MY PROBLEM AND I STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE IN PARKING LOTS, I LEARNED THAT I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE LOCAL DEALER. IT WAS A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM. EVERYONE I RAN INTO HAD ISSUES WITH THEM AT ONE POINT AND TIME. IF YOU GET POSITIVE FEEDBACK, THEN GO FOR IT. YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED IN THE TRUCK!
  • dcmooredcmoore Posts: 14
    Well, I checked out a loaded 2003 Monty Limited today. It had the third row seat, CD player, leather, the whole nine yards. It had about 13K miles and seemed in excellent condition. It had a clean Carfax report -- first owner registered it for personal use. I walked away from a $25K offer by the dealer when both my wife and I thought there was some more room for maneuvering. Do you think I can get it for much lower?
  • I bought a 2003 Montero. Brakes grinding heard
    from the front intermittantly. Steadily got
    worse over a period of 1 year. Dealer says it's
    "brake dust", no problem found, and cleaned out.
    Brake grinding returns (intermittantly--grinding
    noise from the front) after two days.

    Anyone had a similar experience?
  • you did not say how many miles you had on your '03.I heard the same on my '01 after only 23000 miles.put on new pads at the local brake shop and did not have any problems after that.(already going 50k miles) yours may need both pads and rotors since you're still under warranty.
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    I saw NEW LTDs with rear air (the only available option) today and I could get them for 28K or less. For some reason the 7/100K powertrain warranty still applied, so that's good. They didn't have too many miles on them (about 400 and more), so your deal would be so so - it's good that you walked away. I will probably have my eyes open and get something this year but not right now (a Montero or an Axiom or maybe even a Legacy).
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    hey, I just read on thecarconnection.com ("TCC’s Guide to New ’04 SUVs" - article dated 11/17) that Montero has been discontinued (in N. American market, of course). Hmmm, quite shocking but also highly probable since the dealers haven't gotten any information about 2004 Monteros yet :-(

    EDIT1: Or did they really mean Montero Sport which is supposed to be discontinued by 2005 along with Diamante...

    EDIT2: Both Monteros are still listed in the "official" lineup, so I don't know anymore...
    http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2003120355470&m- - - - ime=ASC

    EDIT3: Quote from mitsu media for the 2004 lineup:

    "Montero XLS and Montero Limited are both powered by a 3.8-liter, SOHC, 24-valve V6 engine that delivers more power and torque to tame any terrain. The new engine's power starts building low in the rev range and peaks early to produce a responsive off-the-line feel with a stout mid-range punch."

    Provided it's true, does it mean more power in general or more power in 2004. There's no reason they shouldn't make it 230HP like in the Galant.

    Well, we should know all the answers soon but if someone knows anything, let us know...
  • for all you monty guys, the montero wins again (first and second place)in the grueling paris dakar rally of 2004.
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