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Mitsubishi Montero

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  • 99trooper99trooper Posts: 87
    Drew..
    Thanks for replying. My concern is that if you look at the pics the BOLTS are pretty rusted. There is no body rust that I can see, only that fitting for the exhaust and the two bolts. The corrosion on those bolts and that fitting just seem like an awful lot to me for a car thats a 2001. I'm just curious if anyone else's 01 or 02 look like this?

    Thanks
  • check post 1454...your answers are all there!
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    I'll look at mine tomorrow to see if it's the same. I'm guessing mine will look similar.

    I think bolts will rust for many years before they fail though. Which is why I'm thinking it's probably normal and a part that gets cut away when your pipes are ready for replacement.

    Surely there is a Tech around here who can offer a professional opinion. I'm certainly not a tech. I don't even change my own oil anymore. I'm even thinking of giving up on changing my own wiper blades. :)

    D.
  • dchyornydchyorny Posts: 47
    I have a 2000 Monty Sport XLS; where is the miles to empty located?
  • brillmtbbrillmtb Posts: 543
    I have a 3300 lb trailer that I tow. Shorter distances are fine but I would like to have a larger truck. I am looking to Fords new diesel later this year, v8 600 ft lbs torque. This will tow anything and will get about 21 mpg on the highway. Towing this trailer dropped my mpg from 20 to 9 with the Monte but the truck will be unlikely to drop below 15.

    If you want a smaller SUV but with more power to tow take a look at Fords new SUV. 260hp I think, full independent suspension like the MOnte. Rated very well. It still wont tow like a V8 truck but might bridge your gap. I would not get the Monte if towing >3000 lbs, long distances, frequently.

    Skip the Sequoia, recent review indicated a quick drop in milage/performace with towing. This is exactly what I thought would happen. The Sequoia suffers from too small an engine for the size and supposed towing limits as well. The only reason I mention it is because it is a hot item amoung a group of near sighted followers who are afraid to point out its weaknesses as we do here on on Monte forum. Dont know why there isnt more objective dialogue, perhaps its directly related to the amount you pay.

    The Monte is suppose to go up on engine size soon but I think anything less than V8 probably will not change my opinion on the towing issue.
  • dmetzgerdmetzger Posts: 160
    Curious. I have 2000 MS LTD 4X4 and pull a 2500# boat and average around 14.5 mpg. Drive it 65 mph. Live in Montana where it is hilly. You are getting '9' mpg. Do you have the LTD or XLS model? Do you drive it in overdrive or shift it down one gear? What speed? Any additional weight in vehicle?

    Asking these questions, for thought about up sizing to the Montero from the Sport. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
  • mp19fanmp19fan Posts: 102
    I REALLY like the tread pattern, and for $500 installed, I really like the price. I went with the taller profile because I felt the wheel wells could use some filling in. A bit noisier than the OE highway Geolanders, but not nearly as loud as I was expecting. Rides nicely on the freeway and around town. Oh, did I mention how nice they look?
  • dchyornydchyorny Posts: 47
    Did you get 4 or 5 tires (spare)? Is anyone going to adjust your odometer for the bigger tire? Do you lease or finance your car?
  • phonosphonos Posts: 204
    If you bought 5 tires, does the hard plastic spare tire cover still fit this size?
  • brillmtbbrillmtb Posts: 543
    The difference between you 2500lb boat and my 3300lb trailer is probably huge. As we cyclist know it is the wind resistence that all of our peddling effort is going into.

    Given the large difference in frontal area of a boat vs trailer I would imagine at least 14mpg in steady driving with the Montero with a boat.

    My poor 9mpg was due to attempts to stay near 65mph and in hilly terrain. I would assume that flat, steady driving at 55mph (legal speed) I would jump to 12mpg given that the air resistence is logrithmic vs linear.

    I would have no problems recommending the Montero to boat owners.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    I would jump to 12mpg given that the air resistence is logrithmic vs linear.

    Actually, it's quadratic. If you double the speed, you quadruple the resistance. Logarithmic would imply a very slow increase of drag with speed.

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  • brillmtbbrillmtb Posts: 543
    I really am hoping my tires wear out faster so I can get these as well.


    If I did the calculations correctly the difference in overall diameter should be about 1.1 inches.


    265/75 vs 265/70 would increase sidewall height approx 14mm. 14mm x 2 with 25.4mm/inch.


    http://www.admiralmetals.com/metric_conv.htm


    I hope the rear tire holder can accept this and does anyone know yet whether the Montero tire size can be reprogrammed to give correct speed as in the American trucks?

  • brillmtbbrillmtb Posts: 543
    "Drag from the air isn't a big problem at low speeds. However, it has one unsavory characteristic: the force required to overcome air drag rises as the square of the speed. As we saw before, power is force times speed, so the power rises as the CUBE of the speed. In other words, to ride at 20 mph takes eight times as much power as to ride at 10 mph. To ride at 30 mph takes 64 times as much energy as 10 mph."
  • mp19fanmp19fan Posts: 102
    I just purchased 4 new tires, left the spare as is, so I don't know if the spare tire cover will accommodate a 265/75 size. I haven't adjusted the speedo/odo yet. Is this expensive? BTW, I purchased the car with Mitsu financing, 4.9%.
  • homer61388homer61388 Posts: 54
    I mean, out of reading these reports and test driving one for a weekend via a car rental agency I don't think that you should buy this because of its lackluster performance. There are better vehicles out there like the Dodge Durango with 2 V8 engine choices and a 3rd row of seats. It is getting redesigned this year or in 2003 I think so a good think just got better (hopefully.)
    I hauled around all my children and while it did have decent passing power I would usually have to floor the accelerator if I wanted to quickly pass another slow car or zip into a spot in traffic. I averaged 13mpg because of this!!! But on a good note the 5-speed auto in my test limited performed very well. Its performance couldn't make up for the montero's lack of muscle though!
    YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A 4,600 LB PLUS!! A 200HP MOTOR IS NOT GONNA DO IT!! THERE IS SIMPLY TOO MUCH WEIGHT AND NOT ENOUGH MOTOR!!! HOPEFULLY, THERE WILL BE AN ENGINE CHANGE SOON! A HIGH-OUTPUT V8 WOULD BE A NICE EDITION!!!
    THANKS FOR ALL THE RESPONSES TO MY QUESTIONS. THEY HAVE DEFINITELY HELPED! AND ALTHOUGH I LIKE THE MONTERO'S SUSPENSION, TRANNY, AND BRAKES AND STYLING, THIS ALONE DOESN'T OFFSET ITS WEAK ENGINE.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    brillmtb,

    Good point! Also, note that the net drag varies directly with the frontal area of the vehicle.

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  • brillmtbbrillmtb Posts: 543
    I must be getting too old to handle fast paced driving you you are really one fast dude. Given that I ride a 520 E/XC KTM I think it is the latter.

    I have rarely if ever REALLY needed to floor the Montero.

    I would think you would steer clear of the Dodge and look more towards the Acura MDX, BMX x5 or Ford Explorer for SUV with more power. The BMW will trounce just about eveything out there (except the WRX but thats a different class). The Ford would have more off road capabilities than the other two. You will probably have to refine what you are looking for, solid construction off road ability or car like handling and then pick. The Montero would be a better choice for serious off roading (in luxury).
  • homer61388homer61388 Posts: 54
    Ok, maybe I drive a little more than the speed limit but hey, remember I had the montero packed to the gills with people and cargo! Remember, I need an off-road vehicle and one that can tow a lot of water crafts! The bmw and the Mdx while luxurious aren't capable of such talk! The bmw maybe, but then again it isn't a big off-roader! The same goes with the Mdx, it is just a suv based off of a minivan and the max towing is 3,500lbs! Well, 4,500lbs for boats and that is without people or cargo!

    And although the Durango maybe a "gas pig" with the 5.9liter V8 it has 110 more lb feet of torque(345 hop compared to 235hp) than the montero has! And 45 more horsepower than the montero (245hp to 200hp)! It is also lighter. Translation; a faster, quicker vehicle.

    I have never been a fan of Ford so I would doubt that I would look at an explorer. The mountaineer is more appealing so I might consider that but it is still a Ford!

    The montero is still a smooth vehicle and I like it but with all the hauling around I do I doubt that it can match my specifications. But the engine is smooth as glass and the tranny was very refined. But I need more of a working engine. I might be looking next at a Mercedes ML500 with its powerful 5.0 liter V8.

    Overall, the montero is an exceptional vehicle but if it wants to compete with the big boys then it needs some strong power to back up its aggressive looks! Mind you that the Durango is a compact suv and has more engine than the montero which is a large suv. the montero is supposed to be a larger vehicle, the class it is in I mean.

    So, tell Mitsubishi to pack the montero with more punch and only then will it be first on my list.
  • brillmtbbrillmtb Posts: 543
    I would agree with you that the perfect combo of torque/hp, capabilites is not out there yet. There is hope that the Montero is going to a larger engine next year but I fear it will be too underpowered for the towing issue we are talking about.

    I would just have to diverge a little with you on the power for normal and even sporty driving with people in all the seats. I think there is plenty of power to move this SUV in a respectable and safe fashion even with only 200hp. I only complain about the drop when towing.

    I think that it is very difficult to set up a strong off road SUV that also gets car-like performance. Something just has to give. The suspension has to be much firmer, the ground clearence lower, tires lower profile, engine cam hitting power in a different range than what you would want for off roading, etc etc etc. Its tough to please all of us but its nice that they are trying
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    Umm.. I don't think so!

    I had a Durango before the Monty. In short.. the Durango was Crap. I had it for 60,000 miles and couldn't wait to unload it. I've had my Monty for almost 60K now and I've never regreted the purchase. My opinions are based on long term ownership NOT a weekend rental.

    There is not ONE aspect of the Durango where I could say it had any Quality advantage. Not one. The thing was in a word...Cheap. Fit and finish was awful and the Paint literally would chip from bugs hitting the front of the Hood. I've been using a Professional detailer for years and he said he'd never seen a less durable factory paint job. The added hp didn't make up for the short comings and I never logged over 16mpg either.

    BTW.. you listed the 3rd seat in the Durango as an advantage over the Monty. Third row comes STANDARD with the Monty. You must have missed it. It's folded under the rear floor. The rental agency could have removed it. The Durango (optional) 3rd seat is not removable allowing for added cargo space and not buying the D's 3rd row doesn't increase cargo space either.

    The Durango only has ONE advantage and I don't miss the hp I gave up with the Montereo.

    Drew
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