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Volvo C70 - Options Chosen or Rejected

erisamanerisaman Posts: 99
edited April 7 in Volvo
Not being personal or inquisitive - but what options are the most sought after, and what are not. I don't mean option packs like Climate etc - but one-off items like Bluetooth, Rear Park Assist. And what about mudflaps all-round? I reckon they're useful on most cars but do they fit the C70 'image'? Are they available even? Maybe Max can help me out on that one.
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  • lemennlemenn Posts: 89
    Hi erisaman,

    You already know exactly all my options because I posted my total order description on a previous post.

    I will explain why I did or did not choose some of the other options available, but once again for others reading this post, this should not be taken as a critic. All of these are a matter of tastes and like colors this is very personnal and there is no wrong choice.

    Satellite radio is not available in France so is out for me.

    Radio package:
    I was so amaze by the basic audio system that I found it good enough for me for a car (I only listen to radio and not very often to CDs when driving) and the extra cost for the medium and high end system was really too expensive to me (even if I have 3 decents audio systems at home , two for Audio (downstair and upstair) and one home theatre system for video).

    Navigation system: out, because like computers, integrated GPS systems are more or less outdated after 6 months.
    In Europe we will soon or later have the Gallileo system that will compete with GPS.
    Portable GPS system can be moved from one car to the other and can receive live traffic jam information and on the fly re-routing via the FM Radio.

    Telecom package: out because I don't like the idea to have extra microphone, handset visible inside a convertible. In France, some people will not hesitate to brake your car to steal this extra handset for example...

    17" or 18" wheels? I only drove C70 with 16" or 17" wheels and found you can already feel most of small bumps on the road with the 17". So 17" wheels are for me.

    Rear and front park sensors: yes, it is so confortable to have these.

    Automatic gearbox: yes, again this car is not for speed but confort.

    Windblocker: yes, for confort again.

    Wood trim: Because I found the aluminum finish too "robotic" "computer" like and it goes with the brown cacao leather seats.
  • Thanks Lemenn - you and I have similar thoughts, particularly with regard to the audio, Sat Nav (I have a TomTom portable) and the integrated telephone system - oh, and as mentioned before, I like the wood finish and have already specified that.

    I'll be interested to know how you get on with the front parking assistance - I have specified the rear already, but not given much thought to the front, it's a good thing that it can be fitted by the Dealership.

    I've also requested the windblocker - but I hope Father Xmas will be bringing me that!
  • asjaasja Posts: 22
    Does anyone have the spare tire? How much trunk space does it take up? Any photos? Thanks.
  • lemennlemenn Posts: 89
    I do have the spare tire and all the pictures taken from the trunk is with the spare tire inside. It still leave enough space for what I need to place inside the trunk and even with the roof down, if necessarry I will use the back seats covered with the windblocker.

    The spare tire was a 0$ option. I took it thinking I will get the Flat tire Kit + the spare tire for 0$. Nobody told me it was Flat tire Kit or spare tire. As a consequence I don't have the Flat tire kit.

    If one day I think the flat tire kit is necessary I will buy it.
  • lemennlemenn Posts: 89
    sorry, I don't know why the link is not working but you should be able to find the info by going on

    www.heicosportiv.de

    I don't know the company and have never bought anything from them but it looks professionnal.
  • Hi asja - lemenn has told you about having the spare tire, but didn't mention his pics on the other thread 'Volvo C70 Convertible 2006 +'. Check out post # 935 and you'll see his pic of the tire and cover as installed in the boot well.

    As an aside, I too have ordered the spare tire, but also asked the price of the inflation kit as a back up. So far, I've not had the price.
  • asjaasja Posts: 22
    Thanks for the photos. I have the fix a flat kit, but not the spare. I was wondering if I want the spare also, I'll think about it.
  • One of the options that I chose was Bluetooth. I have to upgrade my cell phone (fortunately, my contract coincides with the delivery date of my C70). I am interested in the Motorola RAZR. One cell phone rep recommended LGs, but another rep recommended the RAZR. Anyone have any negative experiences with Bluetooth and certain phones or carriers? My carrier is US Cellular. I've never used bluetooth technology so this is new to me. I hate to lock into a contract with the wrong phone. I've surfed the other forums related to bluetooth and most are generally happy with the RAZR (one said only 5% of calls would not go through - not sure if that's the phone or the carrier). Did not go with the nav system (I use maps) but did go with the premium audio - I love music.
  • blamb3blamb3 Posts: 41
    You'll love the dynaaudio I've been rocking with it for 4 weeks now. Long term hearing loss is minimal compared to the enjoyment gained. Can't comment on bluetooth, driving with my loud music is enough of a distraction for me..
  • I don't know much about the Bluetooth or anything with this particular vehicle, but I do know that there are MANY newer phones that have Bluetooth. The RAZR is an older, outdated phone that has been replaced by the KRAZR which you may wanna check out. It's smaller than the RAZR and the newer version, so probably a bit of an upgrade too. However, I'm used to Verizon so I don't know about the phones available with US Cellular. Hope that helps though.

    If you're looking for a place to get an answer from more of the cell phone aspect check out www.howardforums.com
    There may already be a topic about recommended phones with Bluetooth; if not, just create one! I'm sure you'll find an answer there from the many phone experts on that site.
  • Thanks for the replies. Very helpful. I'll check out www.howardforums.com. Can't wait to hear my dynaudio premium audio... Have to wait until delivery 12/30/06 - still seems like forever.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    I have a RAZR and the Volvo Bluetooth, no problems.
    Very clear, never have a problem with people not hearing me.
  • I have a new 2007 C70. At the time ordering, I was given the option, at no additional cost, of a tire sealing kit or a temporary spare. Based upon the salesperson's recommendation, and the space savings, I opted for the sealing kit.

    Not until the car was delivered and I had the opportunity to read the Owner's Manual, did I learn that once a tire has been temporarily inflated with the tire sealing kit, it cannot be repaired and re-used and must be replaced. Requiring the replacement of a tire (or perhaps two to keep the ride balanced) for a simple nail hole, for example, would render the sealing kit a poor choice for me.

    Within one day of owning the car, I brought this matter to the attention of the dealership and requested they swap out the sealing kit for a temporary spare a no cost to me. The dealership also responded that they couldn't really comment on the validity of the requirement to replace the tire as they did not have access to the information in the Owners Manual. I was totally flabbergasted by this response.

    The dealer wants to charge me half ($250) their cost ($500)of temporary spare. My first very bad experience with Volvo -
  • Thank you for your comprehensive response - you have put into words the exact concerns I have harboured for some time.

    I have 'picked up' the odd puncture from time to time (on previous cars) changed to a spare and had the damaged tire repaired, however, my last puncture was so bad that the tire sealant kit would not have been sufficient whereas the spare tire, although inconvenient in some ways, would have got me home and/or to a tire specialist. Your words have now led me to dispel all thoughts of the tire sealant kit, even as back up - thank you again.

    As far as Bluetooth goes - although I've yet to try the Volvo system I can say that Bluetooth is superb in many ways. The phone can be left in a pocket or briefcase yet is fully functional for receiving calls via the dash/console mounted switch. The microphone picks up speech clearly and the audio speakers relay the voice of the caller as per any hands-free car kit. Dependant upon the phone used, you can make a call by using voice recognition - which I believe is incorporated in the Volvo system anyway. The only downside as such is that the phone needs to be physically plugged into it's car charger if your battery is about to expire. This would be done automatically on a non Bluetooth system.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Depending on the puncture, you can repair a tire, even after the sealing goo has been used.
  • Not true it repairing a tire with the sealant is not a function of the puncture - according to the Volvo 2007 C70 Owner's Manual:

    "A tire that has been temporarily inflated with the tire sealing kit cannot be repaired and re-used. It must be replaced."
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    No, the tire would have to be plugged in the usual manner.
    The sealant doesn't provide a permanent repair.

    Owners Manuals are written to limit the liability of the Motor Co.
    As such, they often err on the side of caution.
  • you missed my point - I agree the sealant is not a permanent repair. I would err on the side of caution and not reuse a tire that had sealant in it -

    Better yet, recall my original premise that the temporary spare is my preference. Had the the dealer been upfront and provided the necessary information, there would have been no issue - but in my case, the dealer - intentionally or not - promoted the lower cost sealant without even mentioning the information in the owner's manual which clearly states the tire cannot be reused. They certainly did not err on the side of caution as far as I am concerned.

    Assuming a simple nail causes a flat after 10,000 miles, you would be faced with purchasing two new tires at a cost of over $200. Installing different tires on the left and right sides can significantly upset the handling balance of a vehicle—not to mention its ABS operation. For that reason, it is imperative that tires be installed in front or rear pairs, or complete sets. Those pairs should be the same construction, size, brand and type, with approximately the same tread wear. In most cases, if you have to buy one new tire, you should buy a pair. It is essential that side-to-side pairs be the same and highly desirable that front and rear pairs also be matched, except in cases such as high-performance cars with larger tires in the rear.
  • I get the VolvoMax point. (lots of hungry lawyers in America). Makes modern life more complex: when do you believe the owners manual and when do you know better.

    I used to use tire sealant on all 4 tires when I was in highschool driving a car with 13 inch rims that seemed to never get a great rim seal -- would lose air without the sealant. The stuff from Volvo might be gooier, but the stuff I used 20 years ago was called "Flat Fix". It wasn't a problem to still get patching for punctures.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    A temp spare doesn't change that problem.
    IF your tire has a hole that can't be patched, you may have to buy 2 new tires.
    That is what happened on my Mercedes, which did come w/ a spare.
    The nail was near the sidewall. Guess what?
    I had to buy 2 new tires.
    BTW, the Volvo temp spare on the C70 is a N/C option. Dealer didn't promote any "lower cost" option.
    If you really want one, you can pick one up from a junked Volvo for little $$, but that won't change whether or not your existing tire can be fixed or not.
  • Buying two tires ia likely a requirement of owning the tire sealant kit when there is any mileage on the tire which punctured and repaired using the kit

    the Volvo temp spare on the C70 is a N/C option to the buyer.

    the Volvo temp spare on the C70 is a higher factory cost for the dealer ($500) which resulted, in my case, in the dealer promoting the tire sealant kit without disclosing all relevant information at the time of ordering.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    NO NO NO NO NO.
    The seal kit has nothing to do with whether or not a punctured tire can be repaired.
    The ONLY 2 things that determine that are the age of the tire and WHERE the puncture is!!!!
    My Benz has a spare, I didn't use a sealer kit on it. I STILL had to buy 2 tires because the tire was under 50% tread remaining and the puncture was too close to the sidewall.

    Also, the is NO COST to the dealer if the spare is ordered when the car is built. If you buy one out of the parts dept there is a cost obviously.
  • You're absolutely right. I'm an expert on getting flat tires - I get them ALL the time :-) I've tried every way possible to have them fixed rather than buy new tires. I know that most chains (like Wal*Mart, Pep Boys, Hibdon) will not repair a tire that is punctured on or very close to the sidewall. There are some garages (of questionable repute) that will repair a puncture on a sidewall (or near the sidewall) but this is EXTREMELY dangerous, since a blow out could be deadly. The mechanics I've spoken to have NEVER even questioned whether a sealant was used or not - it's location, location, location of the puncture on the tire that matters.
  • jtregojtrego Posts: 68
    Okay, I can get my two cents worth. We didn't chose the spare tire because 1. it takes up too much space in the trunk and 2. it takes up too much room in the trunk.

    Seriously, with a car this nice, how far are you really going to be willing to drive on that temp spare?

    And seriously, on a car this nice, are you going to skimp on tire replacement if you have a bonified flat.

    For a simple nail puncture that is not in a critical area the rubber patch that is inserted through the entire tire is very effective. I have used it twice and it allowed me to drive the tire normally until the end of its tire life.
  • At the risk of making everyone rather deflated and tired of this tread - I mean thread - I thought I'd throw in another fact discovered this morning.

    I went to two tire specialists - one was a highly respected local independant company, the other was one of a national chain of outlets. In other words - the first was protective of his local reputation, the other was quoting company policy.

    In both cases, they assured me that the modern sealant (they called it foam) is very different to that used years ago. The original foam sealant could not be removed once it was applied to the punctured tire - hence the impossibility of a subsequent permanent repair. The modern foam however, CAN be removed - and, assuming all other factors are equal (the location of the puncture etc) the temporarily repaired tire can be permanently repaired, using conventional repair plugs as normal.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Thanks for the info.
  • grsubgrsub Posts: 13
    Volvomax, can I purchase a spare tire plus the tool kit from my local volvo dealer? I have the fix-a-flat kit and asked my dealer back in July whether I could purchase the two things. They told me that since they couldn't find a "part #", they couldn't order it for me.

    Are the spare tires specific to a car model, or to the tire size (i.e 17inch vs 18inch tires)?

    If you know of a "part #" I can give to my dealer, I'd appreciate that. Thanks for your help in advance. :)
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    FAIK the spare are universal. Have them get you a spare for an S40.
  • I was telling a friend about our tire discussion and he mentioned self-sealing tires. I've never heard about these. Are they available in a size that fits the C70? (Is this old news and I'm just behind in the times) Do any of you have experience with these?
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