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Sad to say, but your in a lose/lose situation...if you have the whole car painted, thats not good!!...If they paint the hood, it's a band-aid on cancer.....my opinion?...suggestion? from someone who's been there done that?....if GM thinks it's from stone chips, well then they won't mind taking the car back on a trade in......you'll lose money if you do that but your going to lose money in any situation with that car!! Susan, cut your loses and trade the car in on another car with different paint!!! your fellow New jerseyan.................bryan
Too depressing for me...!!!
Frank
Wanda
Assuming there is documented proof a problem from GM....Then why on a (GM) trade-in would the value of her car go down if it is indeed repainted by Gm who have agreed with her that there was definately a defective paint job from the factory.Wouldn't they want to keep her business..??Sorry ,for the long winded question here. And Gee, on a private sale, would they really know the difference, say 4 years later. Do the door jams etc. etc. really give it away ??.
I'm not challenging you or your experience here, I'm just curious as to why!!.
Talk to you later...
Frank
Well not everyone would know that a car has been repainted, but there are quite a few out there that would!! If you've ever seen a repaint before you would be able to tell. Question is ..will they paint the whole car?..and if not, if they just paint the hood , what happens as in my case a few years ago, the roof starts to peel, chip,etc? Then Susan would have to go thru all this again! As far as the trade in goes, what I'm saying is this..If/suppose GM says it's stone chips and not a bad paint job.....Ok, then take it in to sales dept. and try trading it in, if they tell her (Susan) that the paint isn't good and they have to paint it.....WWAAALLLAAAA....go back to the service dept and tell those guys that sales says it has a bad paint job!!...On a personal note..I went thru all this with 1989 Chevy S-10...paint peeled off while I was washing it one day...I just stood there and laughed, I was to pissed off to do anything else!..Took the car to the dealer they said I used a strong detergent on it....yeah, I always wash my cars in Bensene!!!...So, they painted the hood ...rotten job , but they never the less painted it....2 months later....the roof peeled..same thing.....they told me again, I washed my car to strong of a detergent....this time....being Irish, I threatened to drive the truck thru the showroom window!!...and thats no bull!!....Finally, after 2 lousy paint jobs , I decided to give the truck to my son who was at that time ready to go to college.....since the truck was very sound mechanically and kids that go to college really don't take care of their cars anyway...I let him have it. But , before, I finished doing that, I went to my lawyer , told him what I needed him to do....and in 4 weeks I had a check from GM for $1533.......That's what it would have costed me at that time to have a decent paint job by an independent Body shop!........I mean if Susan hung onto the car for 6-7 years, put 150,000 miles on it...doesn't matter........But , hey ,everyone is different....I've been there done that with GM before and ain't a pleasant trip!!.....talk later............bryan, not a Colonel....
Wanda
Many thanks !! Hope I never have to go down this
particular winding road...
Ok, so final question here...and what's your best guess at this point... Do you personally feel that GM has an overall problem with one of their colours (red) at this point, or can it be one of those isolated bad production day things for Susan and Wanda. If I recall, Susan has the ('07) Precision Red while Wanda has the ('06) Sport Metallic Red (Burgandy/Maroon), same as yours. At this point, You seem to be ok with yours....very strange isn't it..!! And Ooooh Ya, let's not forget something else.....you don't have any of those headaches with your fobs . You are truly blessed...!!
Well, thanks Bryan , I hope I did not offend you in any way with the Colonel thing...It was not my intention... I was just curious and playing my name game.
Talk to you later...
Frank
Yeah , I keep my fingers crossed, so far I havn't had any of the problems that have shown up with the rest of the members here except for the intermittent on/off of my Onstar light. And what happened back when I had my paint problem was that it was a blue paint recall on all S-10 pick-ups.I'm not sure what will happen here, if theres only a few red paint jobs effected GM will not have a recall. I'm not sure what Wanda and Susan should do at this time...personality and finances plays a part in this also. I'm hoping everything works out for them!......talk later....bryan ps...as far as the fobs are concerned, my life style doesn't take me into situations where I need to use my fob at long distances...maybe if I needed to use it at 100 ft, I'd have a problem, but at the distances that I use it, it works fine.
This is Really great to hear.. and congratulations for holding your ground !!
Good luck with your paint job. I'm sure everything will turn-out ok for you. The body shop manager and painter here sound like they are fairly decent guys ....
Sorry about your loss..
Keep us posted..
Frank
Pat or Karen can you tell us...did you delete these for a reason or..???!!!
Frank :confuse:
I believe it was a slightly offensive word that means pointed object...pick with an r after the p. My post was removed because it was in reply to the one removed.
Basically, the regional guy was a jerk and I suggested she report him to the higher ups. She's thinking about it. It's great that things are working out for her but sad that GM still has jerks like that working for them.
Frank...my man...chill, buddy. The hosts are just doing their jobs.
Later,
Ron
Aside from pink and emerald, I'm not sure there are any other girlie colors.
AAAHHHHHHHHH Yes !!! Now I remember why...it's all coming back to me now. It was that "P" word used !!. 'Ya , I was a little surprised at the time, but forgot about it after a couple of days ...It was posted for quite awhile and so I thought that the host(S) were ok with it at the time and after. Oh well, I surely do understand now..
Remember, I am still relatively new here with some of the in's and out's of......
The HOST(S) (Pat & Karen) do a great Job..!!!
Many thanks
Frank
We have a couple of Red Impala's here with paint chipping problems...do you have any problems with the paint chipping?
I'll take a look at the month mine was produced, but you are correct that mine is 06 and hers is 07.
Wanda P.S. sorry to hear some think the sport red is girlie. I'd have chosen white or black if they'd had them on the lot during the closeout.
Anyways, I just want to say there is someone else out here who has that problem. Do I have any recourse with the dealer since I bought it used?
By the way, I love the way the car rides. Thanks.
It sure will be interesting to see if Pogo has the same January '06 production date....You know, it's been 5 or 6 days since your question, do you think he knows where to look for it..??. And Gee..This paint chip problem doesn't seem to be as active as it once was..?? Do you think everyone has given-up here..or maybe gone on vacation ?? And, it's very strange....there's no word from the girls (Susan & Wanda) in particular..?? Oh well, you know what...
probably, Susan is in the paint booth and is refusing to come out until her full paint job is done to her satisfaction, including door jams, and, our friend Wanda has found a boy friend and could be checking for those nail scratches around the door handles. Gee wiz , hope I didn't get tooooooo personal here.!! Just wondering..!!
Frank
P.S. And, closer to home... I hear that the life story/musical " The Jersey Boys" (re: Frankis Valie and the four seasons), is a great show to see..!! Yep...I'm a big fan...
I finally looked at the date on my car... February 06. Too bad mine couldn't have been back in Jan when yours were done so maybe I wouldn't have problems.
Oh, and Frank, no boyfriend yet.
you know..!!! Just maybe..,
And, Oh by the way Bryan, playing on the Wanda thing...well, very Corny here on your part.. OOOps, sorry, Corny, no not you....I meant........
Ok , this is getting out of hand now....
Later..........
Frank
but, yes, in the past, I sure have (but I admit to wearing gloves so no oil under the fingernails. Changed an alternator or two and other simple stuff. Even changed my brakes back in earlier days, although I had a hard time bleeding them by myself. Took one to a station once and asked if they'd help bleed them. The mechanic asked who had done the brakes for me, and when I said I did it, he decided I had probably "torn up all kinds of things in there" and might need a complete redo. Needless to say I left and never went back. :shades:
You just never know what you can do when you're short on funds and help.
Wanda
And, who said you had a " GIRLIE " car....!! !
Ooooops...
What about the touchup paint. Will that help much? Thanks.
I was thinking of buying some touch-up paint at the dealer.
Because of the rain today I had water spots so he said he couldn't tell what was spots and what was the paint bubble I showed him. He said the other was just stone chips, like Susan was told, and that was why they made touch up paint.
What he said they would do is keep it, give it a good cleaning and maybe wax and buffing, because some of the chips would disappear with buffing ...???? He said it probably wouldn't take care of the bubbling spot, but I had quite a bit of warranty left and if it continued I could bring it back again. He said when they get through this time, if I unsatisfied I could file a BBB complaint and get arbitration and they might end up buying it back. I think it was in retaliation for some comments I made to their 800 customer service guy along the same line.
They did give me a rental because he said with this and the other problems I had it would take them a couple of days to cover everything.